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chingfong85

not always the case..
eg. I'm taking the flight at 10pm.

here it means you're gonna take flight at 10pm.. it's used when you're certain with the future event.

another eg. the bus is leaving at 10pm.

晨天

Can i join u all?
I really poor in english and i needs help and guide from u all

My lausy english due to my lasiness during primary and secondary school.I have never study my english for my entire school life. What a embarrassment i did that time.

As a result, i got 7D of my 1119 (not goverment SPM)
It similars with MUET bann 2(hopeless )
Now, I was studying Pre-U program, 4 more weeks is my final exams

I really afraid if I fail my english, this is because my uni minimun entry requirement is 65% (13 out of 20)
7D from 1119 catchup to 65%, really need a lot of effort.

Hopefully this thread can help me improve my english.
Again, pls correct my mistake if i did it

[ 本帖最后由 晨天 于 6-10-2007 11:29 PM 编辑 ]

yen1988

[quote]原帖由 晨天 于 6-10-2007 11:28 PM 发表

Of couse you are welcome to join us.
Don't worry.Your eng will improve as long as you have the passion to learn it.Keep it up!



I am really poor in english and i need help and guidance from all of you.

My english is  lousy(poor is better) due to my laziness during primary and secondaryschool.I had never studied my english for my entire school life. What anembarrassment i did that time.

As a result, i got 7D for my 1119 (not goverment SPM)
It is similar with my MUET band 2(hopeless )
Now, I am studying Pre-U program, 4 more weeks to go before my final exam.

I am really afraid that I will fail my english, this is because my uni minimum entry requirement is 65% (13 out of 20)
It really needs a lot of effort from me to catch up from 7D for 1119  to 65%.

Hopefully this thread can help me to improve my english.

Besides, pls help me to correct my mistakes.

晨天

Thanks yen!!!!!!
That is what I want to see. A red pen showing and correcting all mistake i did. Every times i wrote my essay to teacher, my teacher only said i have some(can be said terrible) grammer mistakes and need to improve. How do I improve my english without a person showing the mistake I did.

yen1988

[quote]原帖由 晨天 于 7-10-2007 12:02 AM 发表

You are welcome. Frankly, I am also a "limited company" because I was chinese educated. However, I suggest that you can read eng newspaper as it is cheap and you can really learn a lot from it. Your grammar will be gradually improved if you can expose yourself more to eng.



That is what I want to see. A red pen showing and correcting allmy mistakes.( I am not sure whether it is correct or not) Every time when i write an essay to my teacher, my teacher will onlysay that i have some(can be said terrible) grammatical mistakes and need toimprove. How  can I improve my english without others' help?

[ 本帖最后由 yen1988 于 7-10-2007 10:54 AM 编辑 ]

chingfong85

grammar mistakes -- grammatical mistakes

[ 本帖最后由 chingfong85 于 7-10-2007 01:22 AM 编辑 ]

yen1988

原帖由 chingfong85 于 7-10-2007 01:13 AM 发表
grammar mistakes -- grammatical mistakes

ya....I always make such mistake...grammatical mistakes(memorizing...) Chinese is much more convenient and easy ....eng needs to pay attention to tense,root verb,adj,singular,plural and the list continues.....

darksider

Actually,there is no need to memorize anything when you learn grammar.

Memorizing is the lowest level of learning.
The highest level of learning is through understanding.

When you memorize,it is called rote memory.
Rote memory will not ensure a success in your life.

Grammar is a noun.
Mistake is also a noun.

What is adjective?
Adjective describes noun.

What constitutes an adjective?
It can be a noun(pronoun,it's possesive adjective~your(adj) present,his(adj) cake),present participle,past participle and also normal adjective.

Grammar(n),Grammatical(adj),grammatically(adv)


Adverb has 3 functions.
-describes a verb.
-describes adverb itself.
-describe adjective.

*You have really got to put a lot of effort into your grammar(n).
*You have made so many grammatical(adj) mistakes(n),that is why you failed the paper 3.
*Although all your sentences are grammatically(adv) correct(adj),your vocabulary is still below the par.

Remember,learning through understanding is very important,rote memory will not ensure a pass in university...in university,everything is about skills...Well,if you have a superb memory,you can score just 40% highest in your exams.Facts constitute only 40% in the university examinations.

[ 本帖最后由 darksider 于 7-10-2007 04:04 PM 编辑 ]

yen1988

原帖由 darksider 于 7-10-2007 04:03 PM 发表
Actually,there is no need to memorize anything when you learn grammar.

Memorizing is the lowest level of learning.
The highest level of learning is through understanding.

When you memorize ...

Ya...you are right but sometimes we tend to forget....I understand whatis an adjective and the use of an adjective, yet sometimes I will stillmake such a silly mistake.Thus,  we  need to  expose  ourselves more toeng, use eng in our daily life or even immerse ourselves in  eng. Ispeak in cantonese at home and almost all  of my  friends are chineseso I seldom have the chance to speak in eng. Your eng is quite well, Ican know it from your reply. Actually, many Malaysians are poor in eng(including me), so I think you are the odd one out. Last time, you saidthat you are doing an assignment about grammar,so what actually are youstudying?

doudoudou

hi, may I join in? I am not very good in English... and i hope i can learn from u all...    Please feel free to correct my poor English...

yen1988

原帖由 doudoudou 于 7-10-2007 10:37 PM 发表
hi, may I join in? I am not very good in English... and i hope i can learn from u all...    Please feel free to correct my poor English...

hello just come and chat if you have time.Nevermind, we can learn from each other.

chingfong85

even if you have a bunch of english speaking friends, you'll most probably speak in manglish, rather than english..well, this is malaysia, what do you expect..

cos we're from different langguage background..
many indian usually say ‘where you went’instead of ‘where did you go’..etc..
chinese?we all know how well we incooperate chinese elements into english..hahha..
(have to be very careful cos one tends to pick up the mistake if exposed too much)

yen1988

原帖由 chingfong85 于 8-10-2007 12:45 AM 发表
even if you have a bunch of english speaking friends, you'll most probably speak in manglish, rather than english..well, this is malaysia, what do you expect..

cos we're from different langgua ...

you have your point too....but I think even manglish is better than my eng now because they can at least speak fluently and people can understand them as well. Unlike me that start to stumble when speak in eng. However,I certainly still wish to learn proper eng and try to speak more naturally....

tensaix2j

Here's a piece of interesting article to share with you all..


http://www.shoemoney.com/2007/08/09/airports-and-their-bathrooms/

The author sure has great sense of humor //
eg:

"I have never had one of those “OMG” moments where every stall in the rest room is not salvageable"

"Great place to drop some brown carrots and get some work done."

"Horrible place to launch a corn canoe."
"They have these marry-go-round plastic covering that insures you will always have a pee free seat. They also have like 20 crappers in every bathroom so you can always be assured of getting some office space to work out of."

[ 本帖最后由 tensaix2j 于 8-10-2007 02:06 PM 编辑 ]

寂寞的边界

新同学报道。。。

darksider

When you speak english,never speak too fast that you are not able to choose words.
Same to writing,you must always give a second thought.

sadworm

原帖由 yen1988 于 19-8-2007 06:48 PM 发表


Yup..watching drama can help us to brush up our listening and speaking skills.My biggest problem is speaking in eng....I prefer writing more than speaking and I think the most obvious hindran ...

Yes, I agree with what you said. I have no much confidence to speak. And sometime i can not pronounce properly. This let me shy to speak.

yen1988

原帖由 sadworm 于 12-10-2007 11:20 AM 发表


Yes, I agree with what you said. I have no much confidence to speak. And sometime i can not pronounce properly. This let me shy to speak.

ya...It embarrasses me every time I want to speak in eng. Alas, don't know how to compete with all the competent users.I am now trying to watch more eng tv programme, hoping that it will help me to improve my eng.

chingfong85

i'm the other way round..
i'm bad in writing.
speaking is fine cos normal converstation only involves plain english..
but plain english in writing makes it looks real 'plain'..not impressive loh..

yen1988

原帖由 chingfong85 于 12-10-2007 02:24 PM 发表
i'm the other way round..
i'm bad in writing.
speaking is fine cos normal converstation only involves plain english..
but plain english in writing makes it looks real 'plain'..not impressive l ...

haha...but I will rather write than speak in eng.Unfortunately, the fact is when you go out to work,what you need is good eng to communicate with others and we seldom need to write. Thus, you are in better position than me....Actually I also don't know what's wrong with me.I am able to write but I start to stumble when I speak in eng.. So I just wish to speak fluently in simple eng...I dare not dream to speak like a Britisher...