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makubexXx_86

can i ask a "moron" question...

ain't = is not

am i correct?
Because i trial to used this word to my boss, but he said he do not know.
Thats why am cofussing whether this is a formal word or in-formal word. Thanks

Anyway, here by is my Info :-
name : Vincent
location : penang
occupation : Process Technician
company : MOTOROLA
age : 21
sex : Male

I am very poor in english, so i would like to learn from you all. Thanks a lot...

[ 本帖最后由 makubexXx_86 于 17-10-2007 11:33 PM 编辑 ]

春哥

原帖由 CindyL 于 16-10-2007 08:44 PM 发表
hey i'm back here in this subforum, i see there's another english thread here, where did the old one go? i've just started learning japanese as a subject for my uni course (i'm an english major), ...

your head really funny...

but i like it...

darksider

原帖由 makubexXx_86 于 17-10-2007 11:25 PM 发表
can i ask a "moron" question...

ain't = is not

am i correct?
Because i trial to used this word to my boss, but he said he do not know.
Thats why am cofussing whether this  ...

formal means write in full,do not use any abbreviation in formal writing.

Ain’t is a contraction originally just for “am not”, but can include “is not”, “are not”, “has not”, or “have not” in the common vernacular. In some dialects it is also used as a contraction of “do not”, “does not”, and “did not”, as in I ain’t know that. The word is a perennial issue in English usage.

[ 本帖最后由 darksider 于 17-10-2007 11:35 PM 编辑 ]

darksider

原帖由 rioj 于 17-10-2007 11:15 PM 发表
He is taller than I (am)...

She is brighter than he/she (is)

It's a constant argument in the English speaking world on when to use I or me...for our part, we just learn what's logical.

My sir who is a cambridge examiner,taught me this and he explained explicitly to me.
This is a common mistake made by people in the world.However,if you are not taking any exams like i am,it's alright to follow what sounds better(it is merely guess work.).

[ 本帖最后由 darksider 于 17-10-2007 11:40 PM 编辑 ]

makubexXx_86

原帖由 darksider 于 17-10-2007 11:34 PM 发表


formal means write in full,do not use any abbreviation in formal writing.

Ain’t is a contraction originally just for “am not”, but can include “is not”, “are not”, “has not”, or “ ...

Actually what i mean is when the time i was pronounce this word, my boss even do not know what is this. I have explain to him what is "ain't" mean. But he still refuse my word, and keep saying that he is came from USA and even never used this word before

chingfong85

LMAO..was he trying to show off that he's fom USA (regardless whether he was studying there or simply just been there for a trip).. i think he just wanted to make you laugh..hahhaa..

but usually i'll rather not to use this word though..

chingfong85

原帖由 iLLuSiOn 于 14-10-2007 14:21 发表  
hi guys~
i have a question here

do you guys usually says "im 19 years old, or im 19-year-old"
any different between that 2 sentences?
and which is actually correct ?

i my opinion, both are correct..at least i know both are being used in spoken english..
but i'm not aware of the preference for formal english though (if there's any)..

原帖由 doudoudou 于 14-10-2007 23:17 发表  
i have a Q here : u wrote "play" but not "played" or "plays"...??? why?? I dun get it???

'i heard the ochestra play at the hotel last night.'

i think the word 'play' here is a noun.
it means the performance..


p/s. tell me if i'm wrong

doudoudou

The word "play" in the sentence is not noun. The reply and explaination from the Darksider #183 is correct. Tht 's bare infinitive ( infinitive without- to)

doudoudou

The Cambridge International Dictionary of English (Cambridge University Press) shows the example " She is much taller than me".  we know tht "He is taller than I (am)" is standard English, but i am very confused tht why the dictionary comes out with this example? I wana know which one is correct so tht i won't make such a mistake. I hope tht someone can exaplain it to me. Thz vy much.

rioj

This word probably came about when the less educated in the English speaking world, could not tell the difference among "is not", "are not" and "am not" and when to use them appropriately. Hence, it is long regarded as a word used informally. It's perfectly okay for everyday conversations provided the person(s) you're speaking to appreciate(s) what you're talking. I have never seen it used in formal writings though, and should be discouraged from doing so.

[ 本帖最后由 rioj 于 18-10-2007 02:44 PM 编辑 ]

darksider

原帖由 doudoudou 于 18-10-2007 09:40 AM 发表
The Cambridge International Dictionary of English (Cambridge University Press) shows the example " She is much taller than me".  we know tht "He is taller than I (am)" is standard English, but i  ...

It seems like i have nothing to substantiate my view anymore...
Since you are not convinced,pls see all the posts in this website.

Than me or than I?; than him or than he?
http://forum.wordreference.com/showthread.php?s=e560847d7f65d72aa81e0d908bf6692b&t=25090

darksider

i think i have found something to corroborate my words .

Taller than I / me ??
When making a comparison with "than" do we end with a subject form or object form, "taller than I/she" or "taller than me/her." The correct response is "taller than I/she." We are looking for the subject form: "He is taller than I am/she is tall." (Except we leave out the verb in the second clause, "am" or "is.") Some good writers, however, will argue that the word "than" should be allowed to function as a preposition. If we can say "He is tall like me/her," then (if "than" could be prepositional like like) we should be able to say, "He is taller than me/her." It's an interesting argument, but — for now, anyway — in formal, academic prose, use the subject form in such comparisons.
We also want to be careful in a sentence such as "I like him better than she/her." The "she" would mean that you like this person better than she likes him; the "her" would mean that you like this male person better than you like that female person. (To avoid ambiguity and the slippery use of than, we could write "I like him better than she does" or "I like him better than I like her.")

hi! i'm new here. i guess that darksider might know who am i, we both are from the same school but not in the same class. Nice to meet u all!!!

darksider

“Ain’t” has a long and vital history as a substitute for “isn’t,” “aren’t” and so on. It was originally formed from a contraction of “am not” and is still commonly used in that sense. Even though it has been universally condemned as the classic “mistake” in English, everyone uses it occasionally as part of a joking phrase or to convey a down-to-earth quality. But if you always use it instead of the more “proper” contractions you’re sure to be branded as uneducated.

http://wsu.edu/~brians/errors/ain't.html

makubexXx_86

原帖由 darksider 于 20-10-2007 07:03 PM 发表
“Ain’t” has a long and vital history as a substitute for “isn’t,” “aren’t” and so on. It was originally formed from a contraction of “am not” and is still commonly used in that sense.  ...

oh well~ thanks a lot. anyway, is there any proper way to say "ain't"?
without using is not / are not~~
sorry for inconvenient.
Because i'm a moron boy as well~

rioj

Why not try isn't /aren't for a start...moron boy...

tensaix2j

it is pretty weird to call yourself moron boy, because that's a typical insult that angmos use in their forums.

Cool仔

原帖由 rioj 于 20-10-2007 11:48 PM 发表
Why not try isn't /aren't for a start...moron boy...

u very rude ..

u are very rude man. how can u simply just say other people moron.

tensaix2j

u guys misunderstood him, pls read post #216.