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寂寞的边界

now i get the point.
in conversation i usually heard ppl say "i'[m looking forward from u"
is tht correct?

by the way, is there any mistakes from these sentences?
1. I frequently heard ppl say....
2. I frequently heard ppl says...
3. I frequently hear ppl say..

darksider

原帖由 寂寞的边界 于 14-10-2007 04:58 PM 发表
now i get the point.
in conversation i usually heard ppl say "i'[m looking forward from u"
is tht correct?

by the way, is there any mistakes from these sentences?
1. I frequently heard ppl  ...

"I frequently heard people say" is the true.

I heard +[object + infinitive without to]

eg,i heard the ochestra play at the hotel last night.

darksider

I have never heard people say "looking forward from you"
From my experience,look forward must be followed by "To".

If anyone have heard of this,pls enlighten him.

寂寞的边界

u're helping me a lot...
sometimes i really get myself confused on tenses.
for instant, using "heard" or "hear" after the word frequently.
like wat i've mention, "i get my self into" or "i got myself into". which 1 is true?

darksider

Present simple
Function-It shows habitual action.

He   ]    ]     ]
She  ] is ] has ] singular verb(verb+s)
It   ]    ]     ]
I    ] am  ]        ]
You  ]     ]  have  ] plural verb(verb)
We   ] are ]        ]
They ]     ]        ]

Past simple
Function-It shows action happened and stopped.
He   ]     ]      ]
She  ]was  ]      ]
It   ]     ]      ]
           ]  had ]  verb+ed
I    ]     ]      ]
You  ]were ]      ]
We   ]     ]      ]
They ]     ]      ]

If you are talking about the present,or a fact
-I sometimes really get myself confused in tenses.
(sometimes indicates habitual action.)

If you are talking about the past,eg yesterday or day before.
-I really got myself confused in tenses.

-You are helping me a lot.(wrong use of present continuous.)
Function of present continuos-it shows action happenning at the moment of speaking.)
-you should say:you've helped me a lot.(present perfect)
Function of present perfect-it shows completed action.

I was very angry just now.
Can i be followed by WERE?
Yes...It is used when you say 假如我是你.
If i were you,i would have gone to the concert.

寂寞的边界

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 09:28 PM 发表
I was very angry just now.
Can i be followed by WERE?
Yes...It is used when you say 假如我是你.
If i were you,i would have gone to the concert.

I still dont yet it.
"I" can be followed by "was" and "were"?
I heard from my lecturer before that in proper english we dun use "very" right in front of "angry". is that true?

doudoudou

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 12:02 PM 发表
moon You dont get the formula i used?
Normally people think that after to must add a base form.(infinitive-to+base form)
But in this case,it is totally different.

See the logic here.

I lo ...

so... tht means 1) i am looking forward to your reply (correct)
                2) i am looking forward to receving your letter. (correct)
                3) i am looking forward to receive your letter. (wrong)

in situition 1 or 2, we have to use NOUN or GERUND but not VERB after "to", right?? So when we come to " i look forward to...." , the formula is still the same , rite???  


so nice to learn grammar from you...

doudoudou

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 06:50 PM 发表


"I frequently heard people say" is the true.

I heard +[object + infinitive without to]

eg,i heard the ochestra play at the hotel last night.

i have a Q here : u wrote "play" but not "played" or "plays"...??? why?? I dun get it???

doudoudou

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 10:28 PM 发表
Present simple
Function-It shows habitual action.

He   ]    ]     ]
She  ] is ] has ] singular verb(verb+s)
It   ]    ]     ]
I    ] am  ]        ]
You  ]     ]  have  ] plural verb(verb ...

Thanks 4 ur useful table... thz...
Can i say it as a "table"???

darksider

原帖由 doudoudou 于 14-10-2007 11:17 PM 发表




i have a Q here : u wrote "play" but not "played" or "plays"...??? why?? I dun get it???

infinitive is to+base form
base form is the plain word,without ing,ed or s.

Example of redundency.
I hear=I do hear.(Do shows it is present simple.)
He plays the music.(plays=does play)

I hear he plays the music=i do hear he does play the music.(Double signs of simple present-redundency.)

I hear the man complain that i'm shrewd.
I hear ,if without from/of...then (object + infinitive without to)---without "to"!

I look forward to (NOUN).
This is a formula.

There is also an error which people usually do.

-----He is tall.
-----She is taller.
Therefore,she is taller than he. (True)
Therefore,she is taller than him.(False)

The logic is~
He is tall,she is taller.
therefore,she is taller than he (is tall).
(is tall is neednt to be written.)

Have you comprehended?

darksider

原帖由 doudoudou 于 14-10-2007 11:19 PM 发表



Thanks 4 ur useful table... thz...
Can i say it as a "table"???

It is normally written.I'm not sure what it should be called.
I'm sure that it is not a table.
A table is arrangement of facts/numbers in rows or blocks,especially in printed material.

tensaix2j

原帖由 iLLuSiOn 于 14-10-2007 02:21 PM 发表
hi guys~
i have a question here

do you guys usually says "im 19 years old, or im 19-year-old"   ( Correction: say)
any different between that 2 sentences?                                     (Correction: difference, these)
and which is actually correct ?

                                 

Hi Illusion,

Welcome aboard.....Nice to have you here.
I think, usually " i am 19 years old" is more appropriate. The other one i have only seen ppl use it to describe 3rd person...
example: the 19-year-old soldier

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iLLuSiOn

原帖由 tensaix2j 于 15-10-2007 09:12 AM 发表
                                   

Hi Illusion,

Welcome aboard.....Nice to have you here.
I think, usually " i am 19 years old" is more appropriate. The other one i have only seen ppl u ...

aha~ ic,
thanks for your explanation.

oh ya,
why is a highlight with red color on some of my words there?
any mistake i make on my sentences?

darksider

Says=does say.
He says it is a rumour.(He does say it is a rumour.)
When you form a question
Does he say it is a rumour?

They usually say "We're 19 years old."
=They usually do say "we're 19 years old."

When you form a question,
Do they usually say "we're 19 years old"?

You mistake is redundency.

Do you guys says=Do you guys does say.

doudoudou

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 11:31 PM 发表


infinitive is to+base form
base form is the plain word,without ing,ed or s.

Example of redundency.
I hear=I do hear.(Do shows it is present simple.)
He plays the music.(plays=does play) ...

yup, got it. U r talking bout gerund, to-infinitive and bare infinitive.


1)He is taller than he. (formal)
2)He is taller than him. (informal)

Can we say like this???  I remember tht the dictionary comes out with such examples, u know.
E.g :1) He is taller than I. (formal)
     2) He is taller than me. (informal)

Are both sentences acceptable? I think both are acceptable, but , we have to learn the formal 1 instead of informal, rite?

doudoudou

原帖由 darksider 于 14-10-2007 11:37 PM 发表


It is normally written.I'm not sure what it should be called.
I'm sure that it is not a table.
A table is arrangement of facts/numbers in rows or blocks,especially in printed material.

Ok , thz... Then... what should it be called... ...  i dun know how to get the answer ...

darksider

I have been told that "He is taller than him" is wrong.
My sir said this is a very common mistake.

and the explanation was what i had shown above.

In my opinion,perhaps the dictionary shows wrong example.

First of all,you must know what is formal first.
To summarize up,formal means write in full.

I would be very glad if someone can clarify this.

panda_npl

hi!i'm panda,can i join?bcos i also wan to improve my poor english!i always shy to say in english bcos i worry about other ppl will laught on me... so,ifgot any mistake,can anyone corret my words?thank a lot~

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CindyL

hey i'm back here in this subforum, i see there's another english thread here, where did the old one go? i've just started learning japanese as a subject for my uni course (i'm an english major), i'm really excited about learning a new language although i would prefer if i get to learn french instead, lol.

rioj

He is taller than I (am)...

She is brighter than he/she (is)

It's a constant argument in the English speaking world on when to use I or me...for our part, we just learn what's logical.