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Visual Studio 2005 Express Editions 免费!

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发表于 22-11-2005 05:28 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
请参考此页
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/default.aspx

除了VB,C#,C++,J# 免费一年.也提供sql server express....

突然对我们那么好... 不懂是什么目的? 有谁下载来用了吗??
分享一下用后感...
谢谢!!!
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发表于 22-11-2005 05:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
SQL SERVER EXPRESS本来就是FREE的哈哈。。我还没有DOWNLOAD来用。。但我等我公司买了我才用用看哈哈
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发表于 23-11-2005 12:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
如果不是有开放源代码和Java 的制衡, 这种东西不懂微软几时才会做。

不过注意, 是免费一年。 放长线钓大鱼。
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发表于 23-11-2005 06:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
酱的行销策略 大家都在用吧
microsoft 不跟进也太逊了吧

就好像毒品
有人免费提供你 你跃跃欲试
若你真的觉得它对你有好处 你就会继续下去
直到你上瘾 你过度依赖时
他不再免费提供你了

若你的毒瘾发作时 你还可以怎样?
戒掉。。。?

不过我也等着公司买。。。来玩玩看看
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发表于 23-11-2005 08:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
之前有安装过,不过需要在线安装。
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发表于 23-11-2005 09:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实这类的行销手法 microsoft 一直都在做... 而且做的比其它竞争对手还多.
例如 microsoft 赞助了新加坡大部分的政府学院免费软件; 在商业上, microsoft 也允许以 ISV 的模式来让公司取得免费的 "实验" 软件/免费课程... 相信大马的情况也是如此.

这次的免费下载充其量只是另一个行销手法... 当然不否认也是面临了极大的压力...
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发表于 23-11-2005 11:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 goatstudio 于 23-11-2005 09:09 PM 发表
其实这类的行销手法 microsoft 一直都在做... 而且做的比其它竞争对手还多.
例如 microsoft 赞助了新加坡大部分的政府学院免费软件; 在商业上, microsoft 也允许以 ISV 的模式来让公司取得免费的 "实验&quo ...


这的确是微软的杀手锏, 不过已经得到大市场的软件就不曾免费给大众, 除非是killer Application。
这是继Visual Studio Tools 2003

的另一次免费大众的行动, 每次都要等到其他公司免费了几年,发觉到有一定的市场竞争时才会免费给大家。
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发表于 24-11-2005 01:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
呜~那我的2002版本更加不可能卖出去了吧?
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发表于 24-11-2005 02:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 雨吟 于 24-11-2005 01:42 AM 发表
呜~那我的2002版本更加不可能卖出去了吧?


注意, 根据微软的授权条约, 根本是不可以转让的。购买者是没有权力合法使用。

最近微软才破天荒授权给一家公司卖微软二手软件的执照, 所以要合法卖二手软件是需要执照的。
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发表于 24-11-2005 08:51 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jangancari 于 24-11-2005 02:21 AM 发表


注意, 根据微软的授权条约, 根本是不可以转让的。购买者是没有权力合法使用。

最近微软才破天荒授权给一家公司卖微软二手软件的执照, 所以要合法卖二手软件是需要执照的。

哈哈,最近看过这个新闻,据说是XP之前的用户合约有漏洞,所以才让这家公司光明正大的卖二手软件;
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发表于 24-11-2005 08:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jangancari 于 24-11-2005 02:21 AM 发表


注意, 根据微软的授权条约, 根本是不可以转让的。购买者是没有权力合法使用。

最近微软才破天荒授权给一家公司卖微软二手软件的执照, 所以要合法卖二手软件是需要执照的。


嗯? 那是比赛赢回来的奖品,他的执照应该还没有授权给任何人吧?

那到底我可以卖吗?

[ 本帖最后由 雨吟 于 24-11-2005 09:49 AM 编辑 ]
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发表于 24-11-2005 09:02 AM | 显示全部楼层
不过话说回来 这个 EXPRESS EDITION 并没有 TEAM SYSTEM

我倒想看看 TEAM SYSTEM 在 PROJECT TEAM 里的实际运用
我在 READY TO LAUNCH 看到 TEAM SYSTEM 的强大

从 PM 到 SA 到 DEVELOPER 到 QA 都有很好的协调
不过要买 VS.NET 2005 TEAM SUITE 版本才有完整的概括
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发表于 24-11-2005 09:09 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 jangancari 于 23-11-2005 11:52 PM 发表

这是继Visual Studio Tools 2003 的另一次免费大众的行动, 每次都要等到其他公司免费了几年,发觉到有 ...


呵... 这倒是真的...
相信是因为 BEA 和 Oracle 发送免费软件对 microsoft 造成了极大的压力...
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发表于 24-11-2005 10:57 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 80cents 于 24-11-2005 09:02 AM 发表
不过话说回来 这个 EXPRESS EDITION 并没有 TEAM SYSTEM

我倒想看看 TEAM SYSTEM 在 PROJECT TEAM 里的实际运用
我在 READY TO LAUNCH 看到 TEAM SYSTEM 的强大

从 PM 到 SA 到 DEVELOPER 到 QA 都有很好的 ...

对,那时候看到的时候,我也是对它很感兴趣.还真的很欣赏这种开发环境.
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发表于 24-11-2005 03:31 PM | 显示全部楼层

VB EXPRESS 没有 REPORTING TOOL?

VB EXPRESS 没有 REPORTING TOOL? 请大家确认一些,如果没有就太可惜了!
酱不是要买?
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发表于 29-11-2005 06:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
VS Express 是給爱好者和学生用的,所以功能比较阳春
如果是个人用的话,我觉得还蛮好用的
project team 就不好说啦

M$ 说免费一年,据我读了M$的说明的理解,所谓一年是promotion期
在这promotion期内下载安装VS Express都是免费的
之前M$给VS Express的定价是40多块美金呢
而且,注册了还有很多好康可以拿
我不是M$的Fans,不过既然有那么便宜的午餐,为什么不拿呢:p

附:M$ 对 VS Express Pricing的FAQ

How much will these products cost?
We are announcing a pricing promotion for Visual Studio Express – for the first year after the products launch on November 7th, 2005, customers will be able to visit MSDN to download their copy of Visual Studio Express for free!**

Our customers are very excited about the release of these products, so this limited-time download is our gift to the hobbyist, student, and novice community – we’re excited to see the amazing applications they’ll build!

Note that SQL Server 2005 Express Edition is also a free download. The free pricing for SQL Server Express is not limited to the same one-year promotional period as Visual Studio Express.

[**We plan to launch the non-English versions of the Express products sometime within 2-3 months after the English version launches on November 7th. The same pricing promotion will apply to these products, and will remain in effect for one full year after their respective availabilities.]

You said “free for one year” — what does that mean, exactly? Will you be charging for this later?
We originally announced pricing of Visual Studio Express at US$49. We are now offering Visual Studio Express for free, as a limited-in-time promotional offer, until November 6, 2006. Note that we are also offering SQL Server 2005 Express Edition as a free download, and that this offer is not limited to the same promotional pricing period as Visual Studio Express.

Do customers who acquire the Visual Studio Express products during the free promotional pricing period have to pay after the first year if they want to continue to use them?
No, as long as you download Visual Studio Express on or before November 7th 2006, you will not have to pay for it.
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发表于 30-11-2005 12:24 AM | 显示全部楼层
好像没有create DLL的templates....有谁知道如何写DLL file吗?
我需要用到呢……
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发表于 30-11-2005 08:51 AM | 显示全部楼层
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发表于 30-11-2005 08:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
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红色的是应该注意的
青色的是对使用者好的
棕色的是奇怪的




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发表于 30-11-2005 08:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
照Agreement 来说目前使用是免费, 而且免费update , 不过Agreement 里面说明Online server 任何时候可以取消。永远免费的只是当前的版本。

而且说明只可以开发Windows 版的软件, 那些想要用VC 配合wxwidgets/qt 或gtk 的就没有好处。



读了agreement 才知道为什么微软不敢正面答这个问题
You said “free for one year” — what does that mean, exactly? Will you be charging for this later?
We originally announced pricing of Visual Studio Express at US$49. We are now offering Visual Studio Express for free, as a limited-in-time promotional offer, until November 6, 2006. Note that we are also offering SQL Server 2005 Express Edition as a free download, and that this offer is not limited to the same promotional pricing period as Visual Studio Express.


避重就轻的回答, 厉害 。。
Do customers who acquire the Visual Studio Express products during the free promotional pricing period have to pay after the first year if they want to continue to use them?
No, as long as you download Visual Studio Express on or before November 7th 2006, you will not have to pay for it.
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