舉債來投資 MEGAN 值得嗎 ? （九）

江湖

原帖由 梦7 于 3-7-2007 05:04 PM 发表
kawan Megan 如果输了钱, 想报仇, 把输的赢回来。

Monitor  LCL , 早几天 rm 5.50 >> rm 5.60...

今天现在已经 rm 6.40 了..

注意 : goldman sachs 有投入资金, 机会要把握丫。

买卖自负,  输钱不要 ...

今天涨了。　ｒｍ　１．０５．　

piao2

做个记录，杨前辈的文章。

做假账我们也很能

杨白杨 07年7月3日 下午2:10

英明领袖时常以自己为榜样来教导国人：世上无难事，只怕有心人。你们看我，出身穷苦家庭，年纪小小就要帮父母亲干活，挑水、劈材、烧饭，卖香蕉糕，还要照顾弟弟妹妹，每天要走来回十公里的路去上学，经过几十年奋斗，终于有今天，做了部长，所以，同志们，同胞们，不要放弃，要相信自己能，能，能，能！有一天，你能够像我一样！ 独立五十年，奋斗五十年，我们终于有今天，当了马来西亚大国民。我们有国旗，辉煌的条纹随风飘；我们有国花，大红的木槿沿街栽；我们有国歌，我的祖国大地，我要为你溅血；我们有国号，我们国家的口号：马来西亚能！ 在这片美丽的土地上，我们无所不能。我们攀上了世界最高峰，我们游过了英吉利海峡，我们环绕了世界，我们建造过世界上最高的楼，我们干过各种各样不可思议的事情，让全世界的人听到我们的名字，马来西亚能，能人所不能！ 世界上有什么事情是我们不能做到的？我们创造过许许多多的世界记录，我们制成世界上最大的国旗，举办过最多人参加的宴会，我们的大学生能够十多个人挤进一辆小小的国产车，让世人对我们另眼相看。我们马来西亚大国民，时时刻刻都在思考如何创造世界记录，为国争光，让全世界知道我们能！ 马来西亚人能够做的事情真的是不胜枚举。你想得出的，我们都能够做得出。世界上没有什么事情是我们不能办到的。这其中，不只是好事我们能，坏事我们也能。比方最近我们的一些挂牌公司做假账，就告诉全世界，做假账，我们也是很能！ 谁说我们不能做假账？我们做起假账来，有板有眼，连续做几年都没有人发觉，可见功夫很不错，非常专业。今天的报纸就有报导说我们的金鹏集团，去年亏1亿2630万令吉，我们可以做到赚1亿5800万令吉，2005年亏3亿6956万令吉，我们可以做到赚7500万令吉，两年共亏4。8亿，我们却把它做成两年净赚2。3亿，可以说是神乎其技，不能不叫人信服了。假账做到这样真，以致在去年，金鹏还被《福布斯》选为“亚洲200最佳中小公司”，为国争光，赢得如雷掌声。 这还不算绝！我是说绝技的绝。更绝的是媒岸控股，做假账却不叫做假账，叫做账目“误植”，经调整后转盈为亏，一亏就全年净亏12。7亿。真是大手笔。这样的事情都可以发生，马来西亚大国民们要再高喊一声“马来西亚能”了！ 马来西亚能！做假账，我们也很能！首相阿都拉说，企业像金鹏及媒岸如此这般做假账，有损国誉。我们的国誉不是本来很好的吗？不是时常有外国领袖前来向我们学习吗？难道这国誉也是假的？ 其实，做假账算得了什么？在官商勾结、假正义横行、贪官污吏扮成清清白白的官，砍木大王摇身变环保分子的国度里，什么事情是不能的？，人们从当初的叹为观止，变成见怪不怪，企业界出现做假账，金鹏和媒岸也许只是冰山之一角。国人除了自嘲，还能够做什么？最多再高喊一声，马来西亚能！做假账我们也很能！

江湖

吓一跳，
我以为你认识阳萎翔， 以为是阳萎翔的告白信。。

我要买起他:@ :@

khokhokho

原帖由 江湖 于 3-7-2007 06:07 PM 发表
吓一跳，
我以为你认识阳萎翔， 以为是阳萎翔的告白信。。

我要买起他:@ :@

不用買他，弄臭自已的心靈而已，現在他是背負十多億的臭名，今天報紙大頭條，我想連中國那里的新聞也會提起這宗假債，也會有人知道他是誰了，現在他變成吃死貓了，如果這假債他只吃一億反而背負十億多的臭名，如果這些債務全部推去給他，我想到時他是要回來還是天天提心吊膽擔心有人去找他，如果黑幫知道他得的錢財是不乾淨的錢，那他會每天都擔心有人找上他要錢，如果再加上新加坡政府為了要証明新加坡是乾淨的投資地點，那新加坡就會叫他回來自清這一次的假債問題，所以一切隨緣而安吧，投資者，現在看看這些銀行和回教債券行如何面對這件事情了。

ee33

原帖由 江湖 于 3-7-2007 04:41 PM 发表
借问各位kawan megan, 你们是持着什么心态持股？还搏他反弹？
还是对他有希望？　
如果你们认为megan 已死， 为什么你们不卖出？
剩下的钱不是钱吗？　

别鸟我，我只是想了解你们持股心态。

Ｐ。Ｓ：我 ...

同意。如果你想象自己是将军，你的金钱是小兵，你应该能体会到你全部小兵因为你的失误而全部战死沙场的痛苦，小兵不必珍惜吗？剩下的钱不是钱吗？

Mr.Business

03-07-2007: Whopping losses
by Gan Yen Kuan

Megan Media Holdings Bhd, which reported accounting fraud at its subsidiary early last month, yesterday surprised the investing public with a huge unaudited net loss of RM1.27 billion for the year ended April 30, 2007 (FY07).

The FY07 results were weighed down by the RM1.14 billion loss in the fourth quarter (4Q), due to the skyrocketing operating expenses of RM1.16 billion. Subsequent to the huge net loss, it posted a loss per share of RM6.23 for FY07.

Its FY07's loss dwarfed the year's revenue of RM122.18 million. Its 4Q revenue was RM21.42 million. The 4Q results, approved by its board of directors, were released on Bursa Malaysia's website yesterday.

As investigations into its accounting fraud were ongoing, Megan Media said further adjustments might be required, pending the receipt of the investigative auditor's final report, and the completion of the statutory audit by the company's auditors.

"In this regard, any comparison to the group's prior quarter results announced for the current financial year ended April 30, 2007, and the prior year audited accounts for the year ended April 30, 2006, may be meaningless.

"Megan Media wishes to reiterate that further to previous announcements, the investigation work into the fraud and irregularities is still ongoing. The company's current annual audit is also in progress," it said.

In the notes accompanying its 4Q results yesterday, Megan Media said it incurred operating expenses of RM1.16 billion, which included:
• impairment loss of property, plant and equipment of RM488.1 million;
• write-off of investment in subsidiary no longer consolidated of RM138.5 million;
• write-off of deposit for machinery of RM198.7 million;
• write-off of trade receivables of RM189.9 million; and
• provision for crystallisation of corporate guarantee granted to a subsidiary of RM118.9 million.

The de-consolidation involved Megan Media's unit MJC (Singapore) Pte Ltd and MJC's associated company, PT Megaplast Jayacitra (PTMJ), after the High Court of Singapore appointed PricewaterhouseCoopers as interim judicial managers to MJC, resulting in Megan Media losing control of MJC.

On June 11, Megan Media announced accounting misstatements in its books going back to its 2005 financial year, when its trade receivables were first inflated. The accounting fraud was uncovered at its subsidiary, Memory Tech Sdn Bhd.

On June 19, it was classified as a PN17 company, and was given eight months to submit a substantive plan to regularise its financial condition.

"The continuance of the company as a going concern is subject to a successful implementation of debt restructuring and regularisation plans," it said.

Megan Media hogged the limelight, only after it announced in early May that Memory Tech and MJC defaulted on RM47.36 million trade facilities, and indicated both companies would not be able to meet other repayments.

Things worsened when a probe into Memory Tech in early June revealed that there was deliberate falsification of the group's financial performance.

Commenting on Megan Media's FY07 net loss, an analyst said he was surprised by the unexpected huge amount of losses while another said most research houses had stopped coverage on the counter even before the accounting fraud was uncovered.

"Nobody really bothers. I think the banks would be more concerned due to the defaulted loans, not the investors," he added.

Trading in shares of Megan Media was halted yesterday and will resume trading today. Its share price lost some 66% to close at 10.5 sen last Friday from 31.5 sen on June 5.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/ ... a-16f70a40-8d977061

XXXXX

03-07-2007: Transmile up, Megan down after revealing losses
By Joseph Chin

Transmile Group Bhd’s share price rose as much as 18 sen or 3.96% to RM4.72 in early trade on July 3 as investors had already factored in the RM496 million losses for FY05 and FY06.

However, Megan Media Holdings Bhd tumbled as much as 5.5 sen to 5 sen in early trade as the net losses of RM1.27 billion for FY07 was more than expected.

Transmile opened 14 sen lower to RM4.40 with 63,700 shares done, however, it rebounded. Within the hour, there were 3.24 million shares transacted at prices ranging from RM4.32 to RM4.72. At 10am, it was trading at RM4.68, up 14 sen.

Megan Media opened at seven sen, down 3.5 sen. Within the first 60 minutes of trade, there were 8.9 million shares done at prices ranging from five sen to 7.5 sen. At 10am, it was trading at six sen, down 4.5 sen.

On July 2, Transmile revealed that it had racked up total losses of RM496 million for the financial years ended Dec 31, 2005 and 2006, according to a final audit of its financial statements.

It made additional adjustments to the accounts on top of that recommended by Moores Rowland Risk Management in its special audit. As a result, it reported a higher pre-tax loss of RM417 million in FY05 than the RM67 million suggested in the June 16 announcement. For FY06, however, Transmile reported a pre-tax loss of RM125 million instead of the indicated RM140 million.

All in, Transmile made adjustments of RM899.3 million to the pre-tax profits for both years.

Aseambankers Equity Research maintained its “Sell” on the air cargo transporter as its revised net asset value (RNAV) valuation based on 2006’s balance sheet - after imputing lower property, plant and equipment - was RM4.07.

“As earnings clarity remains unclear, maintain Sell with a lower, revised target price of RM4 from RM4.50 previously, based on its RNAV,” it said.

Megan Media, which reported accounting fraud at its subsidiary early last month, revealed a huge unaudited net loss of RM1.27 billion for the year ended April 30, 2007 (FY07).

The FY07 results were weighed down by the RM1.14 billion loss in the fourth quarter (4Q), due to the skyrocketing operating expenses of RM1.16 billion. Subsequent to the huge net loss, it posted a loss per share of RM6.23 for FY07.

Its FY07's loss dwarfed the year's revenue of RM122.18 million. Its 4Q revenue was RM21.42 million. The 4Q results, approved by its board of directors, were released on Bursa Malaysia's website yesterday.

As investigations on its accounting fraud were ongoing, Megan Media said further adjustments might be required, pending the receipt of the investigative auditor’s final report, and the completion of the statutory audit by the company’s auditors.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/ ... a-16f70a40-be8a74f0

小宗

原帖由 江湖 于 3-7-2007 05:12 PM 发表


对，令人匪夷所思。。。他们抱着什么心态购入呢？要投机为什么不卖炒股？　而买入出名烂股？　我听一个前辈说过炒股一定要有量，　可能就因为它的量吧。。

不如，　我们大家研究研究
之前，　我有分析过 ...

先卖后买，ShortSell瓜。。

再说投机都不管基本面的，对不对。。

江湖

原帖由 ee33 于 3-7-2007 06:23 PM 发表


同意。如果你想象自己是将军，你的金钱是小兵，你应该能体会到你全部小兵因为你的失误而全部战死沙场的痛苦，小兵不必珍惜吗？剩下的钱不是钱吗？

一场战役如果真的败北的话， 将军的任务是如何让伤亡减到最低，能救回多少就多少， 退兵并不可耻的。能屈能伸才是真英雄。

而不是让自己的小兵送死，然后在坟前忏悔。。。

让小兵送死后而让自己永远记得丧兵和如何战败是不值得的，因为人已死了。。

猪先生2

你们一大早不见15%，你们MAMAK档开PARTY庆祝， 我今天晚PAN PACIFIC HOTEL开香槟。

有位网友和我顶嘴，讲他会在香格里拉酒店吃牛扒，而我只在pan pacific开香宾，希望他现在不好茅街睡觉。

[ 本帖最后由 猪先生2 于 3-7-2007 11:26 PM 编辑 ]

Mr.Business

Megan Media in more hot water
By Goh Thean Eu

July 4 2007

OPTICAL disc maker Megan Media Holdings Bhd has run into more trouble, this time revealing it has defaulted on close to RM900 million in bank loans.

Megan's revelation yesterday comes hot on the heels of a report by investigative accountant Ferrier Hodgson MH Sdn Bhd which had said that certain trades in the company's accounts last year were "fraudulent".

Ferrier Hodgson's final report is expected to be out in next six to eight weeks.

The company, whose subsidiaries defaulted on RM47.36 million maturing trade loans in May this year, said that it has since "defaulted on RM899.96 million in maturing banking facilities".

The announcement came a day after it reported a RM1.3 billion net loss for its financial year ended April 30 2007.

Megan shares fell sharply on requotion yesterday, after being suspended on Monday.

The stock closed 33.33 per cent, or 3.5 sen lower, at 7.5 sen, with more than 16.63 million shares traded. Its warrants closed 25 per cent lower at 3 sen.

Its shares have depreciated by 88.8 per cent so far this year.

While Malaysian creditor banks have noted the defaults in repayments, Megan said none has initiated legal proceedings against the company.

In Singapore, its subsidiary MJC (Singapore) Pte Ltd, was sued by The Bank of East Asia for a claim amounting to S$3.04 million (RM6.84 million) although the company has given corporate guarantees for the loans and is defending the suit.

The Securities Commission (SC) is also looking at the case closely. It launched an investigation into the firm's accounts last month.

"Our investigation into these cases of financial irregularities is already being expedited with the view to taking swift enforcement action.

"We will take all appropriate steps, including the strengthening of corporate governance and financial reporting framework, to minimise the likelihood of these occurrences in the future," an SC spokesperson told Business Times in an e-mail reply yesterday.

Meanwhile, Megan said it is working with its creditor banks to restructure its debts.

"We are also working with our legal counsel, specialist advisers and investigative accountants to initiate legal proceedings to recover all amounts lost due to the irregularities.

"The company is closely monitoring its short-term cash flow and has sufficient short-term cash flow based on its current modus operandi," Megan said in a statement.

Trouble began for the optical disc maker when its subsidiaries Memory Tech Sdn Bhd and MJC defaulted on a RM47.36 million loan.

Since then, its co-founder George Yeo Wee Siong has resigned without giving any reasons, while the Singapore High Court appointed PricewaterhouseCoopers as interim judicial managers to MJC, taking the subsidiary over from Megan.

On Bursa Malaysia, Megan has also being classified as a Practice Note 17 company and has eight months to submit a plan to regularise its financial conditions.

http://www.btimes.com.my/Current ... egan03.xml/Article/

Mr.Business

更新: July 3, 2007 21:39

一度成10大熱門
媒岸控股重挫3仙
（吉隆坡3日訊）驚爆蒙受超過12億令吉虧損的媒岸控股（MEGAN，7101，主板工業），今日復牌承受沉重賣壓，交投熾熱並一度成為場內10大熱門股。

媒岸控股今早開低走低，下滑3.5仙以7仙報開后，遭投資者拋售，盤中一度重挫5.5仙或52%至5仙。

休市時，媒岸控股收窄跌幅至4仙，暫掛6.5仙，半日交投量為1132萬4500股，成為馬股最活躍股項之一。

該公司最新宣佈的未審核財報透露，截至4月杪全年淨虧12億6509萬令吉，稅前虧損則高達12億9649萬令吉！

擬呈重組計劃

雖然媒岸控股全年營業額達1億2218萬令吉，但每股虧損大挫至6.23令吉，比較06財年每股盈利為29.50仙。

該公司表示，已和債權銀行初步洽談，重組目前財務狀況，而且約有7個月時間呈交重組計劃給有關當局。

“除非達致正式或非正式協議，否則債權銀行仍保留法律追訴權。”

該公司也透露，子公司無法償還已到期，約8億9996萬令吉的銀行貸款。

交易商指出，儘管假賬調查並未結束，但未審核財報的數據卻嚴重衝擊投資者信心。

“若無意外，媒岸控股作價將進一步報跌。”

閉市時，媒岸控股報7仙，下跌3.5仙，全日成交量達1662萬9800股。

http://www.chinapress.com.my/con ... mp;art=0704bs30.txt

Mr.Business

淨虧12億嚇壞投資人
媒岸控股跌50%       

updated:2007-07-03 18:16:29 MYT

（吉隆坡訊）媒岸控股（MEGAN,7101）因為假賬事件公佈全年業績淨虧高達12億令吉，“嚇壞”投資者，股票今日（週二，3日）復牌暴跌超過50%。

該公司在公佈嚇人的虧損數字，稍後再發表文告表示無力攤還高達8億9995萬6000令吉的到期貸款，利空接二連三，導致股價復牌後“跌跌不休”。

“假賬難兄難弟”金鵬集團（TRANMIL,7000）和媒岸控股週一（2日）一起暫停交易公佈假賬對業績衝擊，復牌命運大相逕庭，金鵬集團有“有力股東”支持，股價穩定，但媒岸控股缺乏這項因素，再加上虧損數字太龐大，導致股價跌到谷底。

媒岸控股週二復牌就面對拋售，開盤不僅以跌3.5仙至7仙低開，在龐大賣壓下，股價一度暴跌5.5仙或52.38%至5仙，與今年最高價87仙相差17.4倍。

午盤仍無法擺脫低迴困境。最終掛7仙，下滑3.5仙或33.33%。

該公司週一配合業績公佈而暫停交易，上週五（6月29日）最後交易價挂10.5仙。

媒岸控股發表文告指出，由於子公司陷入財務困境，導致其無力攤還高達8億9995萬6000令吉到期銀行貸款。因此，該公司將與相關銀行商討債務重組計劃，並努力調整公司營運方向。

該公司週一發表文告公佈，截至2007年4月30日財政年業績，因為撥備和註銷額高達11億6800萬令吉，導致全年轉盈為虧，並蒙受高達12億6509萬2000令吉淨虧損。

市場認為淨虧損料超預期

該公司解釋，有關假賬的調查還在進行中，現有的常年稽查也在進行。不過，市場認為淨虧損可能超越預期。

媒岸控股截至2007年4月30日止第四季就虧損了11億4000萬令吉，主要原因來自新加坡子公司MEMEORY TECH虛報資產和實虧報盈的假賬事件。

MEMEORY TECH虛報4億5600萬令吉資產、截至今年1月31日的第三季或蒙受5億5209萬虧損，而非報的盈利1055萬令吉，還有5億8000萬固定資產在調查中。 （星洲日報/財經•2007.07.03）

http://biz.sinchew-i.com/content ... ;artid=200707030847

江湖

megan每次都是暴跌后， 荣升10 排行榜

megan 是笨猪跳跌法， 不是玩过山车， 出票机会很少。
试想想, 如果之前有人收票的话， 不知几个炒家葬身于此。 如果rm 0.13 买了rm 10,000 也是亏50%， 几时买也会死。

真的越看越痛

[ 本帖最后由 江湖 于 4-7-2007 01:54 PM 编辑 ]

chinchai

Hi, Kawan,

我是说老实话, 不要 xxxx 我,  OK ?

不要只怪责杨小子啦!  他只是个替死鬼罢了。(也许是同族的关系)。

megan 的 project 这么大, 这么严重,  怎么可能只是他一人干的。

友族这么多位董事, 肯定有份参与啦! (你看他们现在打太极就看出来)。

后来再加入的 吉灵仔, 也有参与啦!  现在才博周情, 吃人不吐骨。

.

loulee

最令人心寒的是，到目前为止，好像没有人应该对假帐负责，天文数字的亏损，也没听说有什麽人被捕。在大马千万不要作偷鸡摸狗的小勾当，要嘛就轰轰烈烈像霉暗那样大干一场。

jackphang

原帖由 khokhokho 于 4-7-2007 07:09 PM 发表

個人的假設一點，megan是否就是這樣子玩完了嗎?反正megan無生機了，就寫寫小故事吧?看看就好了。
想想看，這次誰是主控手，能橾megan生死大關?
印度人; 花旗銀行; 回教債券行。

花旗銀行最 ...

不定要花旗银行;印度人; 花旗銀行; 回教債券行，大众银行，马来亚银行，土著银行，affin bank, eon bank, BIMB, 等等也可以嘛。

或者我们也可以请来台湾厂用一块钱来收购megan,就如proton用一块钱把摩多部门卖出。又或者突然director中了彩票，得了12亿。

个人假设，有错莫怪。

p/s:就算收购了他，有什么好处？继续让megan亏本？酱的话-> 长痛不如短痛。

[ 本帖最后由 jackphang 于 4-7-2007 08:09 PM 编辑 ]

猪先生2

原帖由 jackphang 于 4-7-2007 08:08 PM 发表


不定要花旗银行;印度人; 花旗銀行; 回教債券行，大众银行，马来亚银行，土著银行，affin bank, eon bank, BIMB, 等等也可以嘛。

或者我们也可以请来台湾厂用一块钱来收购megan,就如proton用一块钱把摩多 ...

就算卖了全部的ASSET还要背上七亿多的债务，就算还了七亿多的债务，也是什么也没拿到包括厂，地，机器,你说现在MEGAN值多少钱？？？我不像某些吹水王每天只会车大炮，回想他的语气和动作，我可以肯定MEGAN铁定停牌！！！

原帖由 猪先生2 于 16-6-2007 11:13 PM 发表
MEGAN不出一年可能准备停牌，这么多债权人要他的命卖完财产都不够还。

原帖由 猪先生2 于 24-6-2007 10:42 AM 发表
当人们追看紧张刺激片段，我心里在发笑因为我已经看完结局篇。

khokhokho

原帖由 猪先生2 于 4-7-2007 08:50 PM 发表

就算卖了全部的ASSET还要背上七亿多的债务，就算还了七亿多的债务，也是什么也没拿到包括厂，地，机器,你说现在MEGAN值多少钱？？？我不像某些吹水王每天只会车大炮，回想他的语气和动作，我可以肯定MEGAN铁定停牌！！！

狫弟弟，我第一次回復你的話，megan賣完所有的資產也不夠還債務，那如果你是銀行/回教債券行的負責人的話，你會讓megan破產嗎，錢收不回來，讓那些做假債的人沒事嗎?破產就等於那些人做了犯法的事情，最終完全沒事了，所以試問一下，銀行和回教債券行的人會這麼做嗎?如果megan的董事们那時不去擔保新加坡子公司，就讓它破產之後，megan下來也是破產，沒錢還，一了百了，那錢沒了，銀行最多只是排賣機器等等，收回一億多，不過可要想想，不只一間銀行而已，錢分給誰呢?單單回教債券就超過三億多，一些銀行也有幾千萬，那megan的賣完所有的東西只值一億多而已，那請問一下，有那一家銀行講，你們先拿去好了，我不用了，有可能嗎?

單單問題一大推，銀行和回教債券行的負責人，如果他們很開心讓megan破產，反正錢對我們銀行和回教債券行不會有事，真的嗎?連報紙也大登講不會有事?

做假債做到負面成12億多，那些人也不會有事，wah!真利害了，那下來上市公司也是玩假債，之後全走去中國，反正捉不到，十年後，600萬而已，十億換十年時間，我也要換，如果這次事件就這樣子不了而知的話，我想馬來西亞的信譽完全倒台了。

我只有一個id=khokhokho，不用分身來談，別的論談也是一樣。
謝謝~

hancom

他已成了国际金融通缉犯了。

猪先生2

原帖由 khokhokho 于 4-7-2007 09:26 PM 发表

狫弟弟，我第一次回復你的話，megan賣完所有的資產也不夠還債務，那如果你是銀行/回教債券行的負責人的話，你會讓megan破產嗎，錢收不回來，讓那些做假債的人沒事嗎?破產就等於那些人做了犯法的事情，最終完全 ...

老友！我讲他除牌你讲到哪里？？？？？叫我狫弟弟？？？？ ，我念你才三十几你要叫我长辈！