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CIMA:彻底的震惊。
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发表于 16-1-2007 02:15 PM
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谢谢你和我们分享这么多。。继续加油。。这样或许能为想要读cima的朋友解惑,激起他们的信心。。。 |
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发表于 20-1-2007 11:37 AM
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原帖由 hoollly 于 15-1-2007 08:16 PM 发表
当我看到这个整理出来的数据时候,我彻底被震惊了。这种考试,岂非比cfa还要难?而根据另外一项资料,65%的cima members有acca名称,而且当中90%是考完acca后才去考cima的。
我开始思考,肯定有地方出错。
70000学生,不到2000个成为finalists?是的,我想到一个可能性,那就是passed finalists的意思不是及格完成者,而是最优异成绩的意思,然后我看到左边有个粉碎了我想法的prize winners,那个似乎才比较像是奖项获得者。
写这篇文章出来,是为了填补cima在佳礼以至于在大家认识中的空缺。我希望有个人能够出来和我说,passed finalists不是代表考完全部试的意思,或者那个cima网站的名单并不齐全。
passed finalist 肯定要把所有的试卷及格了, 加上3年经验来申请ACMA.
其实在马来西亚, 愿意直接考取CIMA的人很少, 市场不如ACCA强.
虽然在英国可以呼天唤地,但是这里的MARKETING不强.TARC就是最大的会员库.
那天听到的全马统计是2600名ACMA/FCMA. |
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发表于 20-1-2007 07:55 PM
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发表于 20-1-2007 09:22 PM
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发表于 20-1-2007 09:24 PM
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发表于 20-1-2007 09:26 PM
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原帖由 lyy7374 于 20-1-2007 11:37 AM 发表
passed finalist 肯定要把所有的试卷及格了, 加上3年经验来申请ACMA.
其实在马来西亚, 愿意直接考取CIMA的人很少, 市场不如ACCA强.
虽然在英国可以呼天唤地,但是这里的MARKETING不强.TARC就是最大的会 ...
是的,我确定了,passed finalist的确是完成全部考试的意思。
cima在马来西亚的确没有什么市场,因为鉴于马来西亚比较少国际化的制造业,所以对于成本会计师的需求比较低。只有那些厂家,比如philips lumined才雇用这类毕业生而已。 |
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发表于 20-1-2007 09:27 PM
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发表于 20-1-2007 11:50 PM
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原帖由 hoollly 于 20-1-2007 09:26 PM 发表
是的,我确定了,passed finalist的确是完成全部考试的意思。
cima在马来西亚的确没有什么市场,因为鉴于马来西亚比较少国际化的制造业,所以对于成本会计师的需求比较低。只有那些厂家,比如philips lumined ...
成本会计师是N年前的叫法, 现在是管理会计师.
需求并不只是成本.
在英国,大企业都比较倾向于管理会计师, 在新马一带则比较倾向于FINANCIAL ACCOUNTANT (ACCA)
为什么英国会比较喜欢管理会计师,
是因为现在的这类会计师可以减少一些盲点, 也比较深入的管理和风险知识.
[ 本帖最后由 lyy7374 于 20-1-2007 11:53 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 21-1-2007 12:18 AM
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发表于 21-1-2007 08:04 PM
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发表于 21-1-2007 09:53 PM
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我现在在TARC读diploma in accounting..再1年后读advance diploma cum ACCA...之后再凭着ACCA exemption拿CIMA....希望一切顺利!!
才知道cima比acca更值钱。。。 |
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发表于 29-1-2007 10:17 PM
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CIMA clears the air
9th August 2006
TOPCIMA rates out for PC users
CIMA's Robert Jelly has provided PQ Magazine with the pass rates of TOPCIMA by PC. He reveals that since September 2005 almost 900 people have sat TOPCIMA in the UK. The pass rates are as follows: September 2005 55%; March 2006 47%; May 2006 56%.
Jelly stressed that TOPCIMA by PC does not produce hugely different results from the regular paper diets and this is a demonstration that exams by PC are not an 'easy option' but reflect more accurately real life business situations.
He went on to say that in relation to March 2005 there were 606 entrants for the TOPCIMA exam by PC. The pass rate was 47 per cent and it is untrue that no-one achieved the 50 per cent mark.
cima的恐怖传言是具有全球色彩的,包括英国在内很多学生都觉得奇怪,为什么我和和我周围的都没有一个pass topcima的?当然,实际上根据finalist的名单,是有相当多一下的,但是问题在于,为什么这么多会计团体,就是独独cima难名远播,出了名非常非常难考呢?这是我目前设法找到答案的一个问题,一个特殊的现象.
**以后等我破解到这个问题时候,我肯定会把答案发出来~~ |
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发表于 29-1-2007 10:21 PM
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'Worst ever' CIMA scripts
23rd May 2006
Paper 2 students lacked basic knowledge and wasted time in exams, according to the CIMA examiner
It was the sheer lack of basic knowledge that led to the 42 per cent pass rate in November, revealed Paper 2's Colin Wilks at the recent CIMA lecturers' conference.
His paper had the lowest pass rate in November and Wilks said the scripts were "the worst scripts I've marked in over 15 years of CIMA marking". The other word he used was appalling!
He felt students were not learning topics in enough detail to be able to answer the questions he sets.
Candidates were also "wasting time by not thinking through all the requirements of the question before starting to answer it".
To find out what else Wilks said and for more exam advice see this month's PQ Magazine, out now. |
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发表于 29-1-2007 10:22 PM
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Poor results for CIMA
15th February 2006
The strenuous tests set in November by both P1 and P2 examiners have been reflected in the latest CIMA exam results
UK students will be disappointed with the 44 and 42 per cent respective pass rates.
Our independent CIMA Exam Review Board predicted the low pass rates of these two papers, released at the end of January.
If only all CIMA paper pass rates were the same as P7 Financial Accounting & Tax principles. Both sittings of the new syllabus, so far, has seen pass rates well above 70 per cent! See the Feb issue of PQ Magazine for full details.
CIMA exams pass muster
12th December 2005
PQ Magazine's independent Exam Review Board praises CIMA exams
CIMA won a lot of praise for its second sitting of its new syllabus from the independent PQ Magazine Exam Review Board.
New member Sue Walsh said the examiners had generally set their stall out clearly.
She felt the management accounting pillar 'saw the trickiest papers'. She is predicting even lower pass rates for papers 1 and 2 this time around.
ERB old-timer, EW's Derek Cropper, found most of the papers tough but fair.
Few students hit the PQ hotline.
[ 本帖最后由 hoollly 于 29-1-2007 10:23 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 29-1-2007 10:26 PM
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Pass rates down
23rd August 2006
Those exams aren't so easy
Final level accountancy exams are getting harder, according to stats released by the Professional Oversight Board for Accountancy (POBA). Overall pass rates for ACCA and CIMA students have slipped two percentage points year-on-year to 45% and 44% respectively. However, it is in the chartered exams that the drop is more marked. Some 74 per cent of ICAS students passed the final exams compared to 78.5 per cent of ICAEW students. |
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发表于 30-1-2007 12:15 AM
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发表于 30-1-2007 12:06 PM
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cima在马来西亚的确没有什么市场????????
除非你要在Audit/Tax Firm 工作 or 开Audit/Tax Firm, ACCA 才比CIMA有市场!
在大马, 如果你选举在commercial line工作, ACCA 和 CIMA是一样的! |
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发表于 30-1-2007 10:53 PM
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原帖由 郭富城的仇人 于 30-1-2007 12:06 PM 发表
cima在马来西亚的确没有什么市场????????
除非你要在Audit/Tax Firm 工作 or 开Audit/Tax Firm, ACCA 才比CIMA有市场!
在大马, 如果你选举在commercial line工作, ACCA 和 CIMA是一样的!
其实是这样的,我的意思并不是说cima找不到工作,只是在马来西亚的受欢迎度比不上在英国,这主要表现在薪资,待遇上面~
比如这样,假设以英国伦敦工资计算,在英国,一个普通sales assistant的月收入是大约850-1050磅,和马来西亚吉隆坡的850-1050rm大致一样~那么就假设了这个工资平行~
如果依照如此推算,cima cba的起始工资是23000/年,就是大概2000块一个月.
cima advanced diploma in management accounting是最少27000/年.
cima strategic level graduates是最少33000/年.
(这个包含了2个月的花红,一部分的年度医药包销,和退休金.)那么就以总共15个月计算.
cima cba的工资浮动是1500-1800。
cima advanced diploma in management accounting的工资是大概1800-2150
cima strategic level graduates的工资是大概2200-2700。
(最低公司就是起始工资,就是完全没有任何工作经验的工资。)
一年工作经验的cima passed finalist是3000/月。
2年工作经验的是3400/月。
3年工作经验的是3700/月。
以大型公司计算:
其中以英国的financial director的工资是6000/月。
controller工资是4700/月。
finance manager的工资是4000/月。
以小型公司计算,finance manager的工资是2700/月。
在英国,绝大部分cima的part qualified或者member都是出任财务管理阶层之类的职位,而cima的基础认证,cba获得的工资也是payroll clerk,ledger clerk的最高,而且通常都是被大型公司作为录用标准的一个指标~
在马来西亚呢?cima的待遇是没有那么高的,在英国,也就是cima会员80%的集中地,cima的part qualified accountant工资是所有会计师团体之首,而且cima的管理会计师也是近2年来拿最高工资的会计专业认证~
大部分cima的会员都是finance manager或者controller来的,我想或者在马来西亚,如果有如此的待遇,将会是件很不错的事情~
不过,根据我粗略的研究,似乎是没有的........ |
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发表于 31-1-2007 02:09 PM
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恍然大悟!!原来cima并不比acca差。。。我想读accounting可是将来不知道要考acca还是cima... |
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