足球王国之{巴西}

henggi

这是巴西国家队讨论区吧！竟然两年没人回帖？！

明天是２０１０南非世界杯预选赛，对我而言它与euro２００８一样不可错过。巴西将于１４日客场挑战巴拉圭（巴西目前在预选赛客场尚未开斋）１８日主场战阿根廷（希望巴西能triple kill）

目前的巴西队缺少世界级的前腰，而主力中卫lucio最近屡屡犯上低级失误，替补中卫Alex又因伤缺阵，导致防线暴露出问题。进攻线上少了卡卡和小罗，使到中场缺少了指挥官。

henggi

世界杯预选赛的球员名单

门将：塞萨尔(国际米兰)、迭戈-阿尔维斯(阿尔梅里亚)、多尼(罗马)

　　后卫：卢西奥(拜仁)、胡安(罗马)、路易斯奥(本菲卡)、蒂亚戈·席尔瓦(弗罗米嫩塞)、麦孔(国际米兰)、阿尔维斯(塞维利亚)、吉尔伯托(热刺)、克莱伯(桑托斯)

　　中场：吉尔伯托-席尔瓦(阿森纳)、若苏埃(沃尔夫斯堡)、迭戈(不来梅)、卡卡(AC米兰)、巴普蒂斯塔(皇家马德里)、米内罗(柏林赫塔)、埃拉诺(曼城)、安德森(曼联)

　　前锋：法比亚诺(塞维利亚)、帕托(AC米兰)、罗比尼奥(皇马)、阿德里亚诺

cyea

原帖由 henggi 于 13-6-2008 05:39 PM 发表
这是巴西国家队讨论区吧！竟然两年没人回帖？！

明天是２０１０南非世界杯预选赛，对我而言它与euro２００８一样不可错过。巴西将于１４日客场挑战巴拉圭（巴西目前在预选赛客场尚未开斋）１８日主场战阿根 ...

现在巴西队也缺少世界级射脚，Pato竟然也能入选...

好怀念我最爱的肥罗...

henggi

当年的肥罗有体格，有速度，有技术。他和小罗都是我的最爱

射脚嘛。。
pato， 三年后再说
Fabiano，还算稳定
Adriano，我期待他复苏
刚加入juventus的Amaori也是值得期待的（只是怕被italy抢掉吧了）

henggi

竟然输了个０－２给paraguay
Dunga迷信３后腰，却得不到防守的效果，进攻系统也被对方用身体及犯规破坏，下一场对阿根廷真令人担心

dark_elvin

我是绝对的巴西迷，可是在这个论坛大家都只是讨论欧洲球队，所以才没有参与讨论。

桑巴足球一直是我的最爱。也是因为有巴西的桑巴足球才令到我迷上足球。从Romario,Ronaldo,Roberto Carlos,Rivaldo,Ronaldinho,Kaka,Robinho一直都是我喜欢的球星。

自从2006年世界杯的败局后，巨星齐集的巴西也变成了平民球队。

我非常支持巴西的改革，因为巨星如云的巴西虽然星光熠熠，可是有一点我是非常看不过眼的，就是巨星们自甘堕落，完全没有纪律！！！狂欢，喝酒，嫖妓，缺席国家队的召唤等。。。。。在巴西国家队是非常常见的，不用我点名相信你也知道我指的是那些巨星。所以，我非常赞成Dunga的纪律严明政策！

可是，在Dunga进行这个政策的同时时，很多巴西球员们都会不合格，没有入选，令到巴西球队的实力大减。

说到巴西队巴拉圭的比赛，虽然我支持Dunga的纪律严明政策，可是我非常不认同他这场比赛中的那三个后腰人选Mineiro,Gilberto Silva和Josue这三人在这场比赛中不但防守上帮不上忙和不积极，也拖累进攻。后防线上的也是糟糕透顶，不但踢到不拼和不够集中力，而且频频失位！！！被对方进的两球都是全赖这条防线的糟糕防守。

翻看过往纪录，巴西在世界杯入选赛的表现一直都是不佳，只是下场即将面对阿根廷，巴西如梦游般的防守实在令人担忧。

[ 本帖最后由 dark_elvin 于 16-6-2008 04:24 PM 编辑 ]

无聊使者

没想到巴西竟然会以0-2输了

henggi

Mineiro和Josue是美洲杯夺冠功臣，也难怪dunga对他们酱信任

用Josue还可以说是锻炼新人，可Mineiro和Gilberto Silva这两老能力既不突出，又没有青春，何不把机会让给新人？虽然巴西后腰位置目前并没有所谓的球星，但富有潜力及天赋却不少。

但现在说这些也无谓了，预选赛名单的后腰球员就只有他们３个。下一场Anderson预测会改打后腰，这场比赛他是在这位置发挥最佳的球员。锋线位置希望Adriano取代Fabiano，因为他目前是巴西队任意球能力最好的球员（今天有很多位置极好的free kick都被浪费了 ）

barca

原帖由 henggi 于 16-6-2008 06:12 PM 发表
Mineiro和Josue是美洲杯夺冠功臣，也难怪dunga对他们酱信任

用Josue还可以说是锻炼新人，可Mineiro和Gilberto Silva这两老能力既不突出，又没有青春，何不把机会让给新人？虽然巴西后腰位置目前并没有所谓的球 ...

我绝对认同把Mineiro和Gilberto Silva拿下。放上Anderson，Baptista或Elano。

中锋方面，Adriano还是没有什么状态，时常浪费机会，锋线上没有了Ronaldo,巴西队一直都没有稳定的前锋，就算Kaka和Ronaldinho在，也是靠中场或后卫进球。其实我一直不明白为何Dunga不昭Amauri,至少让他试试，让他不能代表意大利也好。

巴西队不是没有人才，而是Dunga用错部分人，还有部分人选择代表其它国家队如Pepe,Deco,Senna等都是巴西人。

henggi

晕～～
０－０ 竟然３场没进球了
酱的成绩打下去，２０１０世界杯就看不到Brazil了

dark_elvin

原帖由 henggi 于 19-6-2008 05:38 PM 发表
晕～～
０－０ 竟然３场没进球了
酱的成绩打下去，２０１０世界杯就看不到Brazil了

放心吧，巴西一直以来的世界杯入选赛成绩都不是很好，最后都能顺利晋级的。

我记得2002年世界杯入选赛，巴西的成绩也是这样，当时甚至跌出前四，后来众球星才回来踢，最后成功拿到第四排位成功晋级。

不过，巴西众球员的状态真的不是很好。对阿根廷的比赛，身为前锋的Adriano，完全没有作为！和昔日的状态相比，真的是天壤之别。要点名批评的还有Miniero，Diego等都是失误蛮多的。

我还是对巴西队有信心，希望Kaka和Ronaldinho都能尽快恢复状态，回归巴西队。

怪侠小帅哥

原帖由 cyea 于 13-6-2008 05:57 PM 发表


现在巴西队也缺少世界级射脚，Pato竟然也能入选...

好怀念我最爱的肥罗...

我最爱的球星！！

henggi

巴西葡萄牙友谊赛名单：阿德入选 米兰双雄献六将

　附巴西国家队22人名单：

　　门将：塞萨尔(国际米兰)、多尼(罗马)；

　　后卫：麦孔(国际米兰)、阿尔维斯(巴塞罗那)、卢西奥(拜仁慕尼黑)、米兰达(圣保罗)、蒂亚戈·席尔瓦(弗卢米嫩塞)、路易松(本菲卡)、克莱伯(桑托斯)、马塞洛(皇家马德里)；

　　中场：吉尔伯托·席尔瓦(帕纳辛奈科斯)、埃拉诺(曼城)、安德森(曼联)、若苏埃(沃尔夫斯堡)、卡卡(AC米兰)、迭戈(不来梅)、小曼奇尼(国际米兰)、阿莱士(巴西国际)；

　　前锋：罗比尼奥(曼城)、法比亚诺(塞维利亚)、帕托(AC米兰)、阿德里亚诺(国际米兰)

关于dunga，我最难理解的就是他不肯放弃吉尔伯托·席尔瓦

另外对于amauri也是不闻不问，连争取的努力也放弃了，简直是想拱手让给意大利队


其他我希望能入选的球员：
国米的Maxwell（同样是左后卫，我就不信它比马塞洛差 ）

fierontina的melo （攻守平衡，只是不太稳定，而且爱吃牌）

巴勒莫的辛普利西奥（ 特点和吉尔伯托·席尔瓦很相似，只是他比较年轻些（前者29岁，后者32））

圣保罗的赫尔纳内斯（23岁被誉为巴西皮尔洛 ，虽然没有在欧洲闯荡的经验，但之前出场表现不错）




希望dunga真的能做出改变，只会打反击的巴西，我看到显了

h@RT3r

maicon和alves谁是主力?

henggi

maicon。。。绝对主力
alves攻强守弱，不刚dunga口味的

henggi

北京时间周四上午8时，一场国际友谊赛中，巴西队坐镇主场迎战葡萄牙队。上半时马尼切为葡萄牙首开纪录，随后法比亚诺连入两球反超比分。下半时巴西又由麦孔、法比亚诺、埃拉诺与阿德里亚诺连入四球，葡萄牙只由西芒扳回一城，6-2，巴西主场大胜。

    巴西队此役阵容变化不大，法比亚诺取代阿德里亚诺首发。客队C罗与西芒、丹尼组成锋线组合。第4分钟，C罗任意球打门，被巴西后卫挡出底线，德科左路战术角球传中，中路巴西队争顶漏人，右侧布鲁诺-阿尔维斯起脚推射，丹尼门前用脚后跟将球打入，0-1。

    C罗拼抢中右腿受伤，不过并不严重。第8分钟，罗比尼奥左路抢断博辛瓦脚下球，随后迅速将球转移到中间，后插上的法比亚诺单刀切入禁区抽射破门，1-1。

    第14分钟，罗比尼奥禁区线上起脚抽射，稍偏出右门柱。第19分钟，德科左侧禁区前远射，同样偏出近门柱。第20分钟，卡卡中场断球，安德森禁区前远射被挡出。丹尼随后阻挡对方开任意球，拿到黄牌。

    第25分钟，巴西队右路直塞，卡卡带球突破费雷拉，在两名后卫纠缠下横敲法比亚诺，后者顺势拿球转身左脚低射，皮球钻入球门右下角，2-1。

    第31分钟，安德森禁区外远射打偏。第39分钟，安德森远射高出。1分钟后，法比亚诺横传卡卡，米兰前腰切入禁区面对门将推射打高。上半时结束，巴西队2-1领先。

    下半时头19分钟，两队连入四球。第52分钟，纳尼右路内切远射，偏出左侧底线。第56分钟，罗比尼奥右路断球，法比亚诺禁区内接球横传右路，麦孔小角度大力抽射入网，3-1。第58分钟，巴西队右路直传，麦孔底线前拿球传中，罗比尼奥前点左脚抽射被门将扑出，法比亚诺门前捡漏破门上演帽子戏法，4-1。

    第61分钟，纳尼弧顶前拿球斜传，西芒禁区右路面对塞萨尔起脚劲射得手，4-2。第64分钟，卡卡禁区前斜传右路，埃拉诺小角度大力抽射，奎姆扑救不及，5-2。

    第70分钟，C罗外围远射打飞，现场嘘声一片。第83分钟，纳尼左路突破后起脚抽射，擦着门梁高出。C罗随后与马塞洛起了冲突，各拿一张黄牌。第90分钟，马塞洛左路传中，阿德里亚诺头球攻门入网，6-2。巴西大胜葡萄牙。

    巴西（4-4-2）：塞萨尔/麦孔(77’阿尔维斯)、蒂亚戈-席尔瓦、路易松、克莱伯(80’马塞洛)/吉尔伯托-席尔瓦、安德森(80’若苏埃)、埃拉诺(76’小曼奇尼)、卡卡/罗比尼奥(80’阿莱士)、法比亚诺(66’阿德里亚诺)

    葡萄牙（4-5-1）：奎姆/博辛瓦、佩佩、布鲁诺、费雷拉/C-罗纳尔多、德科(66’穆蒂尼奥)、马尼切、蒂亚戈(46’梅勒雷斯)、西芒(76’阿尔梅达)/丹尼(46’纳尼)

henggi

goal.com 球员评分

BRAZIL

Júlio César – 6: Surprisingly wasn’t as busy as he would have expected considering Portugal’s attacking penchant. Can’t be faulted for the first goal but he failed to close down the angles to deny the second by Simão. Other than that, only made a few routine saves.

Maicon – 8: Very lively down the right flank. Always provided assistance but also never left his duties at the back unattended. Scored a gem of a goal and helped set up another.

Luisão – 8: Solid as a rock at the back. Always held firm and stood his ground to put in strong tackles and interceptions. Didn’t let anyone get past him in one-on-one, shoulder-to-shoulder situations.

Thiago Silva – 7.5: Showed good judgement and reading of the game and collaborated well with Luisão. They never got in one another’s way and always knew where each other would be to cover any gaps.

Kléber – 7.5: Wasn’t at all troubled by Ronaldo or Simão. That could largely be because he never roamed forward and he had his flank covered at all times.

Gilberto Silva – 7: As always, hung quietly deep inside his own territory. Barely heard his name mentioned, hardly saw his face on camera, but that does not mean he wasn’t in the contest. A typical unsung hero-styled performance.

Anderson – 7: Very hardworking. Combined well with Gilberto Silva and he was the player to link the backline to the midfield with his bursting runs forward from deep.

Elano – 8: Wasn’t really involved offensively in the first half. He was more aggressive after the restart and was encouraged to push forward more. Scored without question the goal of the night with a stunning, bending, curling shot from a tight angle. Extra marks just for that!

Kaká – 8.5: Took a while to get going but once he started his engines, he went straight up to fifth gear. Completely dominated the midfield and almost every single Brazilian attack went through him. Made two assists, including a brilliant dribble past two defenders to set up Luis Fabiano’s second goal.

Robinho – 8.5: Another swashbuckling performance. Almost everything he did on the pitch came off perfectly. A shame he didn’t get on the scoresheet but he created two goals and was involved in another. Disappeared towards the end of the game but he had already inflicted his damage.

Luís Fabiano – 9: In typical predatory style, had three shots on goal and tucked away all three of them. But he did more than just that. He was constantly fighting for the ball upfront, holding it up, creating spaces and even teed-up Maicon’s goal.

Substitutes:

Adriano – 6.5; Mancini – 5; Dani Alves – 6; Josué – 5; Alex – 5; Marcelo – 6

PORTUGAL

Quim – 4: Although most of Brazil’s goals were spectacular, he was at fault for at least three of them with his poor positioning. Never looked confident and his command over his defenders just collapsed.

Bosingwa – 5: Charged forward every chance he had. Perhaps too recklessly! Left his right flank exposed time and time again and had no answers to stop Robinho. Did occasionally drift into the middle to help out his centre-backs.

Pepe – 4: Outmuscled by Robinho for the first goal and failed to stop Luis Fabiano for the second. Unable to impose himself at the back and barely won any of the critical tackles.

Bruno Alves – 4.5: Had no equilibrium with Pepe whatsoever. Caught out of position numerous times and had to rely on his team-mates to cover for him. Made the assist for Danny’s opening goal, but that is scant consolation.

Paulo Ferreira – 4: Didn’t attack as much as Bosingwa and yet his flank looked even more exposed. Four of the six goals came through his side of the pitch.

Deco – 4.5: Completely anonymous in the first half. Other than his through ball which fed Simão’s goal, he had almost nothing significant to show.  

Tiago – 4: Showed a few good touches of the ball early on and was very involved in attack. But once Brazil wrestled control of the game, he was nowhere to be seen.

Maniche – 6.5: Fought hard all across the midfield. Tried his best to clean up at the back and help his forward line at the same time. Full marks for his work rate.

Simão – 6: Drifted in and out of the game. When he was on the ascendancy, he looked very menacing everytime he had the ball as he took advantage of the spaces left open by an out-marked Ronaldo.

Danny – 6: Made an immediate impact with his very first goal for his country after just four minutes. But he failed to build on that and he was barely allowed another shot on goal after that. Was always easily muscled off the ball and fell to the ground far too often.

Ronaldo – 5.5: Made a sizzling start but quickly overshadowed by Robinho and Kaká as the game progressed. Eight goals scored on the night and not a single one from him… not even an assist. His bag of tricks simply did not work against a sharp Brazilian backline who always knew what he was up to.

Substitutes:

Nani – 6.5; João Moutinho – 6; Almeida – N/A; César Peixoto – N/A

henggi

也不懂要高兴还是伤心好，大获全胜之前并不是没有，之前就有3-0炒阿根廷的经验。但只要对方玩死守，就很有可能是0-0的结果。

现在媒体可以把邓加赞得天上有地上无，下一场他也可以陷入一片舆论中。。。

h@RT3r

在真正的巴西面前
葡萄牙人的实力和技术显得多么的..........

henggi

不知是今年还是去年，葡萄牙还以2-0完胜巴西，不过当时卡卡缺阵

现在的卡卡在巴西队的作用太重要了，中场一定要靠他推动速度，相比之下，小罗虽然传球更精准，却会拖慢球队的速度