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《Daniel Goh VS Tony Phua》- Tony Phua 被问得哑口无言,大家赶快去护主啊

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发表于 6-7-2015 05:45 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 bashlyner 于 6-7-2015 05:51 PM 编辑

Daniel Goh vs Tony Pua
I went to the forum as I said I would and to give them some credit, it started rather punctually. First thing I noticed was there is no reporter present which basically tells me they are there to spew shit. Being alone in enemy territory, I picked a seat at the back near the exit door and started planning my escape route just in case I need to, hehe. (作者去座谈会准备听 Tony Phua 插纳吉的高见,现场没有记者,估计是为了让 Tony Phua 满口胡言而安排的。)

The forum itself was pretty much SOP with them blaming the government for everything from the earth being round to stolen tissue papers in their grandmothers' toilets interspersed with "undisputed facts" about 1MDB gleaned from their holy scripture, the very infamous Sarawak Report and as expected Zombie Nation applauded every accusation. Then after more than a hour of utter bore, the moment I was waiting for arrived, Q & A. Zombies don't ask question when Chief Zombie speaks, so I pretty much had the entire floor to myself. (座谈会就是跟着一贯的炮轰政府 SOP 走着,拉屎不出赖地硬总之千错万错都是政府的错。座谈会把《沙捞越报告》当做圣经一样的真理,而丧尸们听了都连连鼓掌。过后就是最精彩的问答环节:)

DG: I have about 1000 questions but I think I will just stick to one coz if I ask the other 999, I think both of us can't go home in time for Christmas, never mind Hari Raya. You accuse, sorry claim that DS Najib stole US$ 700 million of Rakyat's money on the basis of a flowchart without any supporting documentary proof whatsoever. Would you agree with me that if I redraw the flowchart and change the account name to Tony Pua, the chart would look just as good? Can I then claim that it is you and not DS Najib would pocketed the money? By the way, have you checked with any bank if they include titles such as Mr. Miss, Datuk, Tun, Tan Sri, Tokong in their account names (DG: Tony Phua 你指责纳吉首相投了七亿人民的钱,到底有没有文件证明?如果我把整个图表重画过,把账户主人换成你的名字,哪能不能说是你私吞了钱?而且请你向银行查询户口名字是不是会包含Mr. Miss, Datuk, Tun, Tan Sri, Tokong 等头衔?)

TP: This is WSJ. They will never risk their reputation to report something that is not true. They said they will provide proof later so we must accept that they have the proof, you think they are Utusan Malaysia. WSJ never lie...(applause) (TP:《华尔街时报》是不会冒险报道假消息的。他们说之后会有证据所以我们必须接受这个说法。你以为他们是五毒散吗?《华尔街时报》是不会说谎滴)

DG: Really? From what I know, they have been sued successfully by the Singapore government many times (DG:是吗?我听说他们被新加坡政府成功控告三次)

TP Not many times lah. (applause) (TP:不是很多次啦)

DG: Ya ok, 3 times. So they did lie. If they can lie 3 times, what makes you think they cannot lie a 4th time? (DG:Ok,三次。如果他们可以说谎三次,为何不能够有第四次?)

TP: I think this is matter of difference of opinion. We will just agree to disagree.. (TP:我觉得这是我们的观点不同,我们就接受各自可以有不同意见)

DG: What do you mean agree to disagree? This is DAP's standard answer to anything they cannot answer, why should I agree? You are making an accusation of theft against my prime minister based on an opinion where you think there is room to disagree and not on facts, am I right? (small applause) (DG:你这是什么意思?这是行动党回答那些他们无法回答的问题的标准吗?你根据个人观点来污蔑我国首相,你却当做那是事实而不是个人观点,我说的对不对?)

DG's parting shot: Mr. Pua, I think you have committed a violation of the most basic human rights provisions i.e. innocent until proven guilty. (DG: 潘俭伟先生,我想你已经侵犯了基本人权 -“ 被定罪前都是无辜” 的精神。)

I turned around and walked out and I think around 1/3 of the participant followed just as their milo tins are being passed around. At the very least, I would like to think I made some small dents to their pockets, hehe. (当我离开时,一些人也跟着离开,但是美露罐还在还在传着。我觉得这会对行动党的口袋造成一些影响。)

P/S On the way down, in the lift, I heard murmurs of, "WSJ can lie one meh, bo li yu....... (我在电梯听到有人低声细语说:《华尔街时报》也会说谎?没理由)

https://www.facebook.com/daniel. ... 24872554221?fref=nf


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要护主的可以进来这里,这是另一个亲国阵的华人的专页转载:


https://www.facebook.com/lim.siansee/posts/1692496480969139?comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22O%22%7D&pnref=story

如果该文章作者说谎污蔑尊贵的潘建伟,我希望红豆兵可以对此人 Daniel Goh 提出控诉,不要和你们每天骂的纳吉一样 Nasi Lemak Kosong

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发表于 6-7-2015 05:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
这个daniel goh都10下10下的,反对党的讲座不踩国政,难道要赞美国政?

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发表于 6-7-2015 05:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
I have no issues or whatsoever reported by the WSJ. But when a media made such a serious allegation against a leader of the nation, I would expect PM Najib to come out full force to make outright denial with all solid evidence, and sue WSJ immediately until they MAMPUS!

But, the thing is, PM Najib did not do this.

This is the problem.

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发表于 6-7-2015 05:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
TP: I think this is matter of difference of opinion. We will just agree to disagree.. (TP:我觉得这是我们的观点不同,我们就接受各自可以有不同意见)

agree to disagree = win....  
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发表于 6-7-2015 06:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
就是agree to disagree这个千杀的文化,民联就这样散了
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发表于 6-7-2015 07:16 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Agree to disagree 就可以任意指控他人 ?

Tony Puah 根本就是政客胡说八道。

Agree to disagree 是指意见的角度,不是指事件的真伪。别人挑战的是真伪啊。
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发表于 6-7-2015 07:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
坐等Video。。。。。。
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发表于 6-7-2015 07:40 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
沒圖沒真相。
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发表于 6-7-2015 07:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
我不認為tony pua有被問得口啞啞
我只看到一隻自以為是的腦殘

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发表于 6-7-2015 08:03 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
Wall Street journal 是专门乱爆丑闻的报章,是金融大鳄的拳脚报。

那天放消息,马币就马上被做空了。
他们期待的就是纳吉继续和他们纠缠不清。
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发表于 6-7-2015 08:08 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
典型的欺善怕恶,不见这个呆狔鰐狗去扫巫青的场?

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发表于 6-7-2015 08:19 PM | 显示全部楼层
那朝野不如趁现在提高一下政府的公信力与纳吉的声望~
所以希望朝野在下次国会可以提呈新法案~公务员与议员财产公开化
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发表于 6-7-2015 08:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
不用講什麼多,現在這個國家就是給這個機掰獸相給害死
自從實施消費稅後,市面一片蕭條,商家的生意平均掉了50%
許多商家都倒閉了,真是一個害人害物,我國有史以來最無能的獸相!
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发表于 6-7-2015 08:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
有证据在手的不敢拿出来,手上没证据的又乱乱吹...
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发表于 6-7-2015 09:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 素还真 于 6-7-2015 09:06 PM 编辑

不论WSJ是否有证据,首相如果不是身有屎就应该和敦马公开辩论。国阵就是做太多鬼鬼祟祟的事情,国人宁愿信WSJ也不信纳吉啊!

Tony Phua又不是法官,现在又没人控告WSJ毁谤,凭什么Tony Phua要理会『未定罪前是无辜的精神』?国人不能自由谈论WSJ的评论吗?这个Daniel Goh是想抹杀人民的言论自由?连个评论也不能谈?

还有,我虽然不知道Daniel Goh来自哪个政党,但是肯定是对政治感兴趣的人,内心肯定倾向某个政党。难道说他内心倾向的政党就没有说敌对党的坏话?Ridiculous!

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发表于 6-7-2015 09:25 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
TP经验不足,如果是我回答:“既然那急没收受贿金,理应提告wsj,这不仅关乎他个人清誉,也关乎国家经济和诚信,更重要的事,胜诉后那急还可能获得大笔赔偿金,可以为他最最最爱的夫人买cincin,可说是一举多得。为何dg您的主子不采取任何行动,是不是心虚不敢提出诉讼? “ 被定罪前都是无辜”?在你们嘴里说来多滑稽,安华还没被判刑前就被你们认定有罪了,哦!不!应该说 “安华还没被判刑前,首相属就对外宣布安华有罪了”!

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发表于 6-7-2015 09:45 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
没有video你讲个淋啊   
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发表于 6-7-2015 09:52 PM | 显示全部楼层



Come on 鸡鸡 sue WSJ! Come on 鸡鸡 sue WSJ!
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发表于 6-7-2015 10:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
TP经验老道,也不是第一天加入爆料事业,难道TP不知道爆料必须要有资料和证据吗 ?

他需要那种不学无术,只会躲在网络,不断抹黑对方的红豆兵指点么 ?

事实是来自火贱的TP自己拿来贱,在没有证据下,却不断抹黑对方,终于被人问得哑口无言。

人家问TP,你有证据吗 ?TP有就讲有,无就讲无。问问题都有Agree to disagree吗 ?

最后,TP被迫祭起Agree to disagree来抵挡问题 (这样都可以 ???!!)。

真是做人不,火贱如何当老千 ?
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发表于 6-7-2015 10:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
TP经验老道,也不是第一天加入爆料事业,难道TP不知道爆料必须要有资料和证据吗 ?

他需要那种不学无术,只会躲在网络,不断抹黑对方的红豆兵指点么 ?

事实是来自火贱的TP自己拿来贱,在没有证据下,却不断抹黑对方,终于被人问得哑口无言。

人家问TP,你有证据吗 ?TP有就讲有,无就讲无。问问题都有Agree to disagree吗 ?

最后,TP被迫祭起Agree to disagree来抵挡问题 (这样都可以 ???!!)。

真是做人不,火贱如何当老千 ?
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