就事论事说句PPS就是行动党的禁卫军

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很多人会说没有了PPS就好像没人管治安了，其实你们有没有想过在没有pps的时候，其实民间已经有很多的自愿团体如睦邻计划，RELA等这些人很早前已经负起了维持治安还是宴会时候的交通，在此向他们附上崇高精细。

相反呢，PPS成立以来到底做了什么东西？

不过我只看到了他们忙着替行动党挂党旗，打人等负面的新闻

还有一个重点就是他们没有一个公开的户口，那些政府拨款到底进了谁的口袋呢

不然就是替政党人士escort什么的，如果说是行动党的禁卫军一点也不会过。

当然我不想太过武断，因此如果有网友有PPS做过的好人好事不妨分享，以让我们能更全面的了解事情真相

bashlyner

不是有人说了 PPS 一停止巡逻就罪案飙升吗？ BZ 有什么看法？

http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum ... &extra=page%3D1

bcteh

禁卫军
骑motor,手拿血滴子.

bashlyner

槟城人不介意州政府把钱用在自己的政党上， BZ 就不要妒忌了

bashlyner

槟城人不介意州政府把钱用在自己的政党上， BZ 就不要妒忌了

finity

马华同样也有这样的事情你又何解释呢？马华也是黑社会背景的。你的帖一直以来都是说Dap的不是。
那个U版主整天开什么国家经济有提升什么排名。重点也不就是站在国政！你经常说百花齐放我倒觉得你对反对党没好感！
这里的版主如果已经是被国政收买了也不出奇。版主也是人需要金钱过生活。如果真的收了钱来办事也算很正常。
只是麻烦别说骗话就可以了，直接承认就算了

cct2050

Rela 也有中央大事补助

两边玩的是同样的一套

都是政客招数

leokee1979

未免太明显 berat sebelah 了吧
公平论就要两边（民联和巫统）的都解迷
不然就会被定位《假中立人士》了

liang_zai

PPs 是行动党的警卫。。。是bodyguard。。。。是跟随者！

我更本没兴趣知道！


我比较有兴趣的是--------------- @。@
麻花是个什么样种类的“狗”？选择题：

1）跟尾狗
2）哈巴狗
3）摇尾狗
4）胆小狗
5）哑巴狗
6）贪欲狗
7）无脑狗
8）耍赖狗
9）撒谎狗


答案：走狗

陳致中

总警长都說他們全部是黑社会了,哪是什麼禁卫军 ? 不要骗人了

cct2050

bashlyner 发表于 7-9-2014 09:40 PM
槟城人不介意州政府把钱用在自己的政党上， BZ 就不要妒忌了

一样的招摇   动用公款消费

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leokee1979 发表于 7-9-2014 10:10 PM
未免太明显 berat sebelah 了吧
公平论就要两边（民联和巫统）的都解迷
不然就会被定位《假中立人士》 ...

umno有的就是那个土权垃圾，他们人都不如，值得讨论么？rf

我也说了我不想太武断，因此如果你有PPS好人好事可以分享的

gavin@_@

我问你们一句。
你觉得马来西亚的警察破案率高吗？公平公正的对待马来西亚的人民吗？ 他们有做他们该做该和遵法做警察的准则吗？

PPS的出现是为了什么？ 难道治安好PPS会成立会运作下去？ 如果警察的效率和行动可以让人尊重的话，我相信PPS是不可能存在的

可惜非常抱歉警察都是只是被利用来捉一些 手无寸刃 的反对派政治任务或一些大罪犯之外，其余就如一个废物，黑白不分的废物（并不代表所有都是废物，也是有正义的但是不多）

陳致中

finity 发表于 7-9-2014 09:51 PM
马华同样也有这样的事情你又何解释呢？马华也是黑社会背景的。你的帖一直以来都是说Dap的不是。
那个U版主 ...

反对党沒有煽动法令比較好欺負嘛!   就像记协只敢在面对反对党说的义愤填膺

gaomin

我没有看到BZ做了什么，我只看到BZ开帖为难DAP。

leokee1979

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umno有的就是那个土权垃圾，他们人都不如，值得讨论么？rf

我也说了我不想太武断，因此如果你有PPS好人 ...

PPS 他们是不是好人，我不能断定，因为好人的定义不同人不同说法
但是犯过法接受过法律惩罚出来后就不能再当犯人论，要有人权
一个人犯了法，没人举报，没被开过 file，就是好人？
把他们堆积成好的团体，不再犯错，服务社会不是更好吗？
虽然“林神”有时把他们私有化，但是巫统也是一样，巫统只是把自己人合法化而已

yame

就事论事，楼主真是太大小眼了。


国阵为甚么怕PPS？为甚么不批准民联州政府设立辅警？
因为他们心有鬼，身上的屎太多，怕民联以牙还牙。
一位政治研究员出了一本新书，揭露了国阵设立的外围流氓组织，利用这个流氓组织打击政敌。

New book reveals ties between ‘militant’ gangs and Umno
BY JENNIFER GOMEZ
Published: 6 September 2014
Groups like the Organisation of Islamic Welfare and Dakwah of Malaysia (Pekida) are part of an ethno-nationalist movement in the country created to aid Umno's need for support, a French researcher has revealed in a book.

In the book titled “Misplaced Democracy: Malaysian Politics and People” released a few months ago, political researcher Sophie Lemiere wrote that these non-governmental organisations (NGOs), and Pekida specifically, are “connivance militants” whose discourse and actions serve the interests of the ruling party.

Lemiere explained in the book that connivance militancy is a secret political arrangement by which a formal political actor – be it a political party, a government or a politician – sub-contract actions serving its interests to groups or individuals. These actions may be legal or illegal and can range from advocacy to demonstrations and use of violence.

The book, a compilation of essays by various authors and of which Lemiere is editor, contains a chapter she also wrote titled “Gangsta and Politics in Malaysia”.

In it, she wrote that Umno's ties to this ethno-nationalist movement are stronger than those of any other party. This is because the ruling party has created the need and has maintained a favourable context for its development.

In the Malaysian context, she said, connivance militants are like the “muscle” and “numbers” a formal political actor may need to face opponents, be it in elections, campaigns, demonstrations or controversies.

Lemiere holds a PhD and a Master in Comparative Politics from the Paris Institute of Political Studies (also called Sciences-Po) in France.

She noted that ethno-nationalist NGOs blossomed during the years that Tun Abdullah Ahmad Badawi was prime minister, from 2003 to 2009.

She added that these NGOs used a rhetoric based on religion and identity that was previously unknown or non-existent.

"According to a Pekida group leader based in Subang Jaya, ‘The Abdullah years have been the golden age of Pekida; he is our godfather’.”

"In the early dates of his office, Abdullah was in need of strong support, and in order to maintain his party's influence, Abdullah used the network of the organisation to which he was introduced as patron," she wrote.

Lemiere said that the Perak crisis in 2009, when three Pakatan Rakyat (PR) assemblymen defected, resulted in several episodes of violence and demonstrations against PR leaders who were in favour of dissolving the state assembly after losing their representatives to the Barisan Nasional.

"It was at this stage that Pekida members appeared, publicly waving flags bearing their organisation's colours (yellow, red and green), and wearing yellow headbands that read Daulat Tuanku.

“Despite their violence, none of the Pekida's militants were arrested," she wrote.

Soon after the events, several leaders and members interviewed in Perak, which is a stronghold for Pekida groups, mentioned BN's takeover with pride and explained that they and “their guys” were involved in the violence, or that they would have been ready anytime if Umno politicians needed more “muscle”.

Lemiere said this arrangement with Umno allowed Pekida flexibility within the legal framework that governed the registration of NGOs.

Estimates of Pekida’s membership are difficult to confirm because it is a shadowy network, wrote Lemiere.

Her research found that Pekida members are all over Peninsular Malaysia, in every layer of society, among the rural as well as urban elite, and in every institution whether state, political, social or economic.

"Some famous individuals are alleged or proved to be Pekida members, they do not take part in any of its political activities, but rather use the networks to multiply business opportunities and for private protection: sons of politicians in power, hip hop and pop singers, politicians, businessmen, civil servants or army officers.

"So the social profile of members ranges from rural lower income to urban high elite and the network, while remaining mostly Malay, is after all relatively inclusive – Pekida may be one example of the cherished concept of Najib's 1Malaysia," Lemiere wrote, refering to Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak.

Most Pekida gang members do believe that their political activities and connections place them in a grey area above the law. As such, they are uafraid of police authority, she also wrote.

One avenue of recruitment is through martial art (silat) groups and numerous silat organisations are among Pekida's NGO network. Lemiere sees this activity as a “natural” move into political militancy.

Pekida members have claimed responsibility for several outbursts of violence that were seen as ethnic or religious clashes, she wrote.

Lemiere also said that Pekida is often referred to as Tiga Line, as a symbol of the colours of its official flag – red, yellow and green.

In August last year, the Tiga Line group was one of 49 secret societies released by the Home Ministry after a crackdown on illegal groups.

Pekida president Jamaludin Yusof in October last year denied any connections with Tiga Line.

The book is published by the Strategic Information and Research Development Centre Malaysia. – September 6, 2014.

- See more at: http://www.themalaysianinsider.c ... thash.fpwdlej3.dpuf

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gavin@_@ 发表于 7-9-2014 10:17 PM
我问你们一句。
你觉得马来西亚的警察破案率高吗？公平公正的对待马来西亚的人民吗？ 他们有做他们该做该和 ...

警察烂这个是公开的秘密，因此很早就已经有民间自愿团体来自救

现在要讨论的是PPS是否有做过什么好人好事，还是只是替dap挂党旗？

再说已经有那么多自愿团体了，PPS存在价值是否有必要

我时常看到RELA维持交通，睦邻计划半夜巡逻，不过我没看过PPS做什么，除了忙着挂dap党旗

顺便提下RELA是fully authorise by goverment的团体，他们有自己的authority跟PPS是不一样的

cct2050

呵呵呵 ...

挖掘事情真相  BZ 也算用心良苦  

DAP 大公无私,不必怕的

Innermost

旗鼓相当才能抗衡马痴害，不然有事找你来你不来。没大战干嘛要军队？人治好过法治。

有些东西就是有存在的必要。