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发表于 23-6-2008 12:06 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 mahalwin 于 23-6-2008 12:04 AM 发表


一个被称为觉悟的高僧批另外一个被称为菩萨化身的高僧,“弥勒菩萨”和“阿弥陀佛”互相指责。

这些“祖师大德论”,“菩萨化身论”成了一种dogma。

后人将这个解释为佛菩萨的慈悲示现。

*怎么没有add我 ...


你都知道咯。。。華人都比較喜歡玩這些的,有甚麼辦法呢?
如果不是這些陋習,中國不會有那麼多朝代

早就ADD你了。。。沒有咩?那我再弄一次
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 楼主| 发表于 23-6-2008 09:38 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 82# mahalwin 的帖子

阿弥陀佛

最初直暢本懷,講說《華嚴經》二十一日,後因觀機逗教,又再說《阿含經》十二年、《方等經》八年、《般若經》二十二年,《法華經》和《涅槃經》共八年。


後因觀機逗教
後因觀機逗教
後因觀機逗教

佛陀初讲华严,众生听不懂,所以要入涅了,大梵天王请佛陀住世,佛陀再次转法轮苦,集,灭,道.佛陀初讲华严21日,说法时如:"鸭子听雷声",所以佛陀就要离开了.大方广华严经有上,中,下.上和中在龙宫,人间的是龙树菩萨当年定中入龙宫读华严时,看到只有下部适合人间,所以才取出来.

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发表于 23-6-2008 11:00 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 mahalwin 于 22-6-2008 11:36 PM 发表


如果不认同这个大师那个高僧,恐怕只会得到别人为我们判上毁谤僧伽,堕地狱的报应。

当这个大师批那个上人,这个活佛斗那个。。。

双方同时被列为“祖师大德”,那么该跟哪位祖师,哪位大德?

依法不依人,别人的观点不过是给我们参考,而我们需要用智慧来判断。

大德们的观点是供我们参考的资源,而论坛的作用是让我们一起讨论、分析,一同学习、勉励的空间。大家都在学习中,认同的就吸收,不认同也无需一直咬住不放、苦苦相比。很多时候我们认为自己是对的,但听听别人不同的看法也无妨,不但可以避免自己狭义,也可以避免被自己所谓的 “对错“ 固步自封。这就是为什么咖啡豆还在法音的原因,相信大家也和豆一样。

共勉之~
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 楼主| 发表于 23-6-2008 12:12 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 103# 咖啡豆 的帖子

Kopi喝多不好,爷爷泡的茶才好喝.
有空我们一起喝茶谈谈佛法哦.

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发表于 23-6-2008 01:21 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 104# 圆宗 的帖子

爷爷泡茶的功夫是经验累积的,豆太有幸承蒙爷爷邀请
谢谢您,豆已经减少喝咖啡了 。嗯,有机会一定登门拜访向您请教 ~

豆 合十
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发表于 23-6-2008 02:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 圆宗 于 23-6-2008 09:38 AM 发表
阿弥陀佛

最初直暢本懷,講說《華嚴經》二十一日,後因觀機逗教,又再說《阿含經》十二年、《方等經》八年、《般若經》二十二年,《法華經》和《涅槃經》共八年。


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这位朋友你的说法和这个经文不符合。对不起没有华文版本,看看哪位贤友可以帮忙一下。

Ayacana Sutta  (The Request)  Samyutta Nikaya VI.1


I have heard that on one occasion, when the Blessed One was newly Self-awakened, he was staying at Uruvela on the bank of the Nerañjara River, at the foot of the Goatherd's Banyan Tree. Then, while he was alone and in seclusion, this line of thinking arose in his awareness: "This Dhamma that I have attained is deep, hard to see, hard to realize, peaceful, refined, beyond the scope of conjecture, subtle, to-be-experienced by the wise. But this generation delights in attachment, is excited by attachment, enjoys attachment. For a generation delighting in attachment, excited by attachment, enjoying attachment, this/that conditionality and dependent co-arising are hard to see. This state, too, is hard to see: the resolution of all fabrications, the relinquishment of all acquisitions, the ending of craving; dispassion; cessation; Unbinding. And if I were to teach the Dhamma and if others would not understand me, that would be tiresome for me, troublesome for me." Just then these verses, unspoken in the past, unheard before, occurred to the Blessed One:
Enough now with teaching
    what
    only with difficulty
    I reached.
This Dhamma is not easily realized
by those overcome
with aversion & passion.
What is abstruse, subtle,
    deep,
    hard to see,
going against the flow --
those delighting in passion,
cloaked in the mass of darkness,
    won't see.
As the Blessed One reflected thus, his mind inclined to dwelling at ease, not to teaching the Dhamma. Then Brahma Sahampati, having known with his own awareness the line of thinking in the Blessed One's awareness, thought: "The world is lost! The world is destroyed! The mind of the Tathagata, the Arahant, the Rightly Self-awakened One inclines to dwelling at ease, not to teaching the Dhamma!" Then, just as a strong man might extend his flexed arm or flex his extended arm, Brahma Sahampati disappeared from the Brahma-world and reappeared in front the Blessed One. Arranging his upper robe over one shoulder, he knelt down with his right knee on the ground, saluted the Blessed One with his hands before his heart, and said to him: "Lord, let the Blessed One teach the Dhamma! Let the One-Well-Gone teach the Dhamma! There are beings with little dust in their eyes who are falling away because they do not hear the Dhamma. There will be those who will understand the Dhamma."
That is what Brahma Sahampati said. Having said that, he further said this:
    In the past
there appeared among the Magadhans
an impure Dhamma
devised by the stained.
Throw open the door to the Deathless!
Let them hear the Dhamma
realized by the Stainless One!
Just as one standing on a rocky crag
    might see people
    all around below,
So, O wise one, with all-around vision,
    ascend the palace
    fashioned of the Dhamma.
Free from sorrow, behold the people
    submerged in sorrow,
    oppressed by birth & aging.

Rise up, hero, victor in battle!
O Teacher, wander without debt in the world.
Teach the Dhamma, O Blessed One:
There will be those who will understand.
Then the Blessed One, having understood Brahma's invitation, out of compassion for beings, surveyed the world with the eye of an Awakened One. As he did so, he saw beings with little dust in their eyes and those with much, those with keen faculties and those with dull, those with good attributes and those with bad, those easy to teach and those hard, some of them seeing disgrace and danger in the other world. Just as in a pond of blue or red or white lotuses, some lotuses -- born and growing in the water -- might flourish while immersed in the water, without rising up from the water; some might stand at an even level with the water; while some might rise up from the water and stand without being smeared by the water -- so too, surveying the world with the eye of an Awakened One, the Blessed One saw beings with little dust in their eyes and those with much, those with keen faculties and those with dull, those with good attributes and those with bad, those easy to teach and those hard, some of them seeing disgrace and danger in the other world. Having seen this, he answered Brahma Sahampati in verse:
Open are the doors to the Deathless
    to those with ears.
Let them show their conviction.
Perceiving trouble, O Brahma,
I did not tell people the refined,
    sublime Dhamma.
Then Brahma Sahampati, thinking, "The Blessed One has given his consent to teach of Dhamma," bowed down to the Blessed One and, circling him on the right, disappeared right there.
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发表于 23-6-2008 03:15 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 106# Vajira 的帖子

英文翻譯出來的也未必讓人看得懂。。。那時該怎麼辦呢?
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