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发表于 8-3-2012 09:36 AM | 显示全部楼层
我也蛮喜欢TOYOTA的,它的房车隔音和避震真的很好。只是价钱真的不便宜。fangkeat 发表于 8-3-2012 12:54 AM



   
P1想吃掉P2,幸好P2有TOYOTA在后台。

"你敢动我的兄弟一条毛。。。。"

P1,自己做不好,次次说,和他,和他,合作。
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发表于 8-3-2012 09:55 AM | 显示全部楼层
我应该买proton 还是toyota 呢?
uinsane 发表于 8-3-2012 01:40 AM



   看你要的是什么咯。

toyota是innova, Proton就 Exora bold。

我就建议你买Exora Bold, 因为比较有诚意。你应该拿新版FL的Exora与旧的exora相比,FL后的改进了之前的不足地方如油耗、马力。
这样才是真正develop一个车款。而且再加送你optional 的东西 - GPS,先不管好不好用,至少它送你。

Toyota innova FL只是改外形,换汤不换药的做法只是顺势推出,按schedule推出FL,相交下的确欠奉。
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发表于 8-3-2012 10:36 AM | 显示全部楼层
最重要是Turbo~
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发表于 8-3-2012 10:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 155# ntc2000


    绝对贊同.
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发表于 8-3-2012 10:59 AM | 显示全部楼层
P1想吃掉P2,幸好P2有TOYOTA在后台

平院 发表于 8-3-2012 09:36 AM


huh?! 几时的事????
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:02 AM | 显示全部楼层
买你所爱,爱你所买,相信自己的感觉和眼睛,然后去Test Drive到够够,满意了才下单,不一定外国月亮比较圆的!
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
huh?! 几时的事????
爱情骗子 发表于 8-3-2012 10:59 AM


很多人都认为P1=国残车,P2=牛头牌
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 平院 于 8-3-2012 11:16 AM 编辑
P1想吃掉P2,幸好P2有TOYOTA在后台

平院 发表于 8-3-2012 09:36 AM




huh?! 几时的事????爱情骗子 发表于 8-3-2012 10:59 AM



去年。
想尽办法吃掉P2。
Tuesday, 19 April 2011 10:01
Advisory Council to Study Proton-Perodua Merger[/url] ][/url]

KUALA LUMPUR: The government is said to be setting up an advisory council to look into the proposed merger of national carmakers Proton Holdings Bhd and Perusahaan Otomobil Kedua Sdn Bhd (Perodua), sources said.


The advisory council would be tasked with coming out with the exact form the consolidation could take. At press time, it was not clear which individual would be given the mandate to head the council or if any potential candidates had been singled out to head the advisory council.



While several parties had earlier indicated that the merger plans between the two companies were off, The Edge Financial Daily understands that Proton and Perodua were requested by government agencies to make a presentation to the Economic Council, headed by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, in Putrajaya in March this year.


Insiders said Proton’s presentation was fully for the merger of the two companies, while Perodua’s was strongly against. The overall sentiment of the government agencies was also understood to be for a merger.


“At this stage, at least the government seems to be leaning more towards merging the two companies … but there is strong resistance from Perodua,” a source familiar with the matter said.


International Trade and Industry Minister Datuk Seri Mustapa Mohamed, was quoted in January as saying that the government would not force a merger between Proton and Perodua. However, on March 11, the minister was quoted in the press telling the Dewan Rakyat that the merger of Proton and Perodua would help counter the structural problems in the local automotive industry. Mustapa’s comment was based on the results of a study conducted by the Malaysian Automotive Institute (MAI), a unit of Miti.


Talk of the two companies being merged surfaced sometime in the middle of last year. MAI was roped in to advise and had made its confidential proposals and recommendations to the government last November.


Proton is 42.74%-owned by state-controlled investment arm Khazanah Nasional Bhd. Other government-linked shareholders include the Employees Provident Fund (EPF) which owns 10.75%, Petroliam Nasional Bhd (Petronas) with 7.85% equity interest, pilgrim management fund Lembaga Tabung Haji (3.06%), Kumpulan Wang Persaraan (KWAP) (2.76%) while other government-linked funds, such as Valuecap Sdn Bhd and Permodalan Nasional Bhd (PNB) among others, own another 4.5%. This means the government and its entities control about 68.84% of Proton.  


The government is also a major shareholder of Perodua via several government-linked entities. Perodua’s shareholders are UMW Corp Sdn Bhd with 38%, MBM Resources Bhd (20%), Daihatsu Motor Co Ltd (20%), PNB Equity Resource Corp Sdn Bhd (10%), Daihatsu (M) Sdn Bhd (5%), Mitsui & Co Ltd (4.2%) and Mitsui & Co (Asia-Pacific) Pte Ltd another 2.8%. UMW Corp is a wholly owned unit of UMW Holdings Bhd, which is about 60%-controlled by PNB and its various funds. Other major shareholders of UMW Holdings include the EPF with 11.62%.


Perodua has controlled more than 30% of the local passenger car market since 2006. In 2005, Proton had a market share of about 40%, but this has since slipped to below 30%.     


Much of Perodua’s success can be attributed to its partnership with Daihatsu, a unit of Japanese giant Toyota Motor Corp.


Perodua’s Japanese partners also have 51% in its manufacturing arm, Perodua Manufacturing Sdn Bhd and Perodua Engine Manufacturing Sdn Bhd.   


According to Perodua’s website, it can manufacture some 250,000 vehicles per year on a two-shift cycle at its assembly facility in Rawang.


Proton has a manufacturing facility in Tanjung Malim with a capacity to assemble 150,000 vehicles a year on four multi-model production lines. Proton’s plant can however, be beefed up to handle much more production capacity. Other than the plant in Tanjung Malim, Proton also has a manufacturing facility in Shah Alam.


It is likely that Perodua officials are against the merger as they have sufficient capacity and do not see any merits in the union. Proton, meanwhile, may support a merger as it could help resolve under-utilisation of capacity at Tanjung Malim while taming competition in the market, observers said.


Nevertheless, apart from the interests of various stakeholders — such as Daihatsu and minority shareholders of UMW Holdings, which need to be looked into — the concern on whether a merged Proton-Perodua would deprive consumers of better choices in the car market could spark a major debate.




This article appeared in The Edge Financial Daily, April 18, 2011.



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 楼主| 发表于 8-3-2012 11:16 AM | 显示全部楼层
我应该去TEST DRIVE 先
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:30 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复  fangkeat


    老实说,现在的车,不管什么牌子,QC 都是LPPL。只是那些名牌的车主不敢说出来, ...
ntc2000 发表于 8-3-2012 10:32 AM



    我们车主只是能分享和提供点意见,我们拿的车没问题,不代表你的也一样。毕竟钱是自己出,接受到优缺点就行了。
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
你没有让hector 给你开....?
imHellcatz 发表于 8-3-2012 12:11 AM



   他敢借我都不敢开啦
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
P1想吃掉P2,幸好P2有TOYOTA在后台。

"你敢动我的兄弟一条毛。。。。"

P1,自己做 ...
平院 发表于 8-3-2012 09:36 AM



   充其量你也只可以说daihatshu不给
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发表于 8-3-2012 11:41 AM | 显示全部楼层
我個人認為!買車當然買自己想要的,自己喜歡的,這才是重點,國產或外國車沒有100%沒有問題的啦。只要可以決絕的應該可以接受吧!


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发表于 8-3-2012 11:49 AM | 显示全部楼层
我是exora車主,蠻喜歡這輛車,不過你如果是常一個人駕,或只載女友,不常載多人,不建議拿exora,車大、會比較吃油(若要拿manual會省些油)。
如果沒有經濟考量,即是說錢不是問題,那就,可以選這輛。
如果有經濟考量,建議樓主拿myvi或Alza,尤其是后者,可當myvi來用,后面裝東西的空間就變大了。
新saga 也不錯,不過外形沒有myvi和Alza好看,但勝在看起來穩重不花俏。(還有是p1冷汽出名的冷,適合怕熱易流汗的人)
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发表于 8-3-2012 12:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复  imHellcatz


    FL/FLX的大灯很亮。。。

EB将高的车都输它,我的EB可能要下projecto ...
ntc2000 发表于 8-3-2012 12:16 PM



   记得顺便smoke掉灯罩, 发黄不好看....
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发表于 8-3-2012 12:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
有些人发言请自重点吧!

尊重女性
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发表于 9-3-2012 03:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
最好有了家庭才买这辆车。。。
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发表于 11-3-2012 07:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
EB 啦,经济又好看。。。。
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发表于 17-3-2012 11:50 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 平院 于 18-3-2012 12:02 AM 编辑

起火了

http://www.theborneopost.com/2012/03/17/ado-died-from-carbon-monoxide-poisoning-police/


KOTA KINABALU: Initial police investigation into the death of Kota Marudu assistant district officer (ADO), Hilde Primus Peki, 43, whose remains were found in his burnt vehicle at Km 12 Tandek/Kota Marudu Road on Thursday had actually died of poisoning from carbon monoxide fumes.
Kota Marudu police chief DSP Mohd Isa Yusof said based on initial findings from the pathology department, carbon monoxide fumes were found in the victim throat believed to be from the vehicle exhaust.
Police believe the victim had initially stopped his car by the roadside to rest and had fallen asleep with the engine still running.
Police believe the victim died due to carbon monoxide fumes before the car caught fire due to an electronic short-circuit,?he said when contacted yesterday.
However, Mohd Isa said police would carry out a thorough investigation to determine the actual cause of the case.
The charred remains of Hilde Primus Peki @ Hilde P. Kayau, 43, was found at the driver’s seat of his Proton Exora (MPV) vehicle in the 4am incident.
Early police investigation at the crime scene believed the fire was caused by an electronic short-circuit.
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发表于 18-3-2012 12:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
贵,不建議你拿
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