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原帖由 madness 于 19-3-2008 07:02 PM 发表
楼主你好，我最近刚刚买了马来人出的保养品，叫NATASYA,
有听过吗？可以帮我看下它的ingredients会不会“安全”，可以吗？
SABUN HERBA:
aloe barbadensis, eloeis guinennsis (palm) kernel oil,
jojoba (buxus ...
欢迎你。。。。
natasya，还没听过。不过哦，做肥皂没有NaOH或是KOH行吗，如果他所提供的材料可以做肥皂的话，那就是一个神话。而那个cream，也不用多说了，光是fragrance就已经很不好了。 |
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楼主。。。请原谅我酱迟才浮上来
知道你会介绍好料且不上皮肤的。。。
我最近要买toner & moisturizer...很烦恼。。。你有何好介绍吗 |
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原帖由 madness 于 19-3-2008 07:02 PM 发表 
楼主你好，我最近刚刚买了马来人出的保养品，叫NATASYA,
有听过吗？可以帮我看下它的ingredients会不会“安全”，可以吗？
SABUN HERBA:
aloe barbadensis, eloeis guinennsis (palm) kernel oil,
jojoba (buxus ...
跟我一样,我也有问过楼主,可是它的ingredient不齐,不过用了真的变很白.
恭喜楼主荣登精华 |
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发表于 21-3-2008 01:32 AM
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Phil Phil, 恭喜你升精华了！！！
血液和肝的毒素会反映在皮肤上。这种解释你觉得logic吗？
难道不是吗？？ |
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原帖由 philosophy 于 7-5-2007 12:52 PM 发表 
这也是为什么我自己攻读了食品科学和营养学士文凭，加上自修化妆品与化学成分。因为用在身上，吃进肚子里的东西，我都会很关注，因为这个是切身问题，不能不闻不问。“针刺不到肉，不知痛”是很多人抱着的心态，是不 ...
只是八卦想问下，你是UMS food tech 毕业的吗？ |
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一份美国洛杉矶报纸的报道，让大家参考：
http://www.latimes.com/news/science/environment/la-fi-natural14mar14,1,321113.story?page=1
基本重点是：美国一些知名品牌的有机/自然产品，被发现含有致癌物质，1,4-dioxane。
报道所提到的品牌有
1. Kiss My Face
2. Alba
3. Seventh Generation
4. Nature's Gate
5. Whole Foods
6. Method
7. Avalon Organics
8. Zia Natural Skincare
9. TerrEssentials
10. Burt's Bees
11. Desert Essence
12. EO
（红字为受影响的品牌）
Popular 'green' products test positive for toxicant
A cancer-causing chemical is found in almost half of 100 such goods studied.
By Marla Cone, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
10:43 AM PDT, March 14, 2008
New tests of 100 "natural" and "organic" soaps, shampoos and other consumer products show that nearly half of them contained a cancer-causing chemical that is a byproduct of petrochemicals used in manufacturing.
Many items that tested positive for the carcinogen are well-known brands, including Kiss My Face, Alba, Seventh Generation and Nature's Gate products, sold in retail stores across the nation.
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FOR THE RECORD:
Consumer advocate: This article gives the wrong last name for a consumer advocate who directed a study of "natural" soaps and other products. He is David Steinman, not Steinberg.
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The findings of the Organic Consumers Assn., a consumer advocacy group, are sending a jolt through the natural products industry. Gathering today in Anaheim for a national trade show, many leaders worry that the test results will taint the industry in the eyes of the public.
Of the 100 products tested, 47 had detectable levels of 1,4-dioxane, which the Environmental Protection Agency has declared a probable human carcinogen because it causes cancer in lab animals.
Most traditional soaps and shampoos contain 1,4-dioxane. But the discovery that the chemical is present in many housecleaning and personal care products, including some for babies, that are advertised as being natural, organic or "green" comes as somewhat of a surprise.
"For companies to knowingly or even carelessly put a carcinogen into commerce in this day and age is barbaric, I think, particularly products that have the moniker of natural or self-proclaimed 'organic,' " said consumer advocate and author David Steinberg, who directed the study.
"We need standards," he said. "Consumers walk into a health-food store or natural-product supermarket with the expectation that the product they purchase will be natural or safer than what they could purchase at the drugstore or supermarket."
The compound is not intentionally added to products; it is a byproduct of a process used to soften harsh detergents. It is formed when foaming agents, or surfactants, are processed with ethylene oxide or similar petrochemicals.
Said Martin Wolf, Seventh Generation Inc.'s director of product and environmental technology, "The natural world is filled with things that can harm. . . . All we can do is work as hard as we can to keep the levels as low as possible and keep our products as safe as possible."
Hain Celestial Group, the Boulder, Colo.-based owner of four of the tested companies -- Alba, Jason, Avalon Organics and Zia Natural Skincare-- said Thursday that it would reevaluate all of its products. Two Alba and three Jason products contained 1,4-dioxane, but the chemical was not detected in tested Avalon and Zia products.
"We are committed to selling products without detectable levels of 1,4-dioxane . . . and will review all formulations accordingly," said Lisa Lehndorff, Hain Celestial's director of corporate consumer relations.
No one knows exactly what amount of the compound may be unsafe. In scientific studies, lab animals that had been fed 1,4-dioxane for many weeks developed nasal, liver and gall bladder cancers. But scientists do not now know what, if any, cancer risk humans face from years-long use of products containing the chemical.
The Food and Drug Administration, which regulates cosmetics, has set no standards for 1,4-dioxane. The agency has occasionally tested products for the compound since the late 1970s and says levels of it have substantially declined since then. The FDA says the current levels "do not present a hazard to consumers," although it has advised the industry to reduce amounts in cosmetics as much as possible.
Many companies in the "natural" business have been striving for years to eliminate 1,4-dioxane. They use coconut or other plant oils as surfactants, and they have reformulated products and added a process called vacuum-stripping. But traces still remain, in the parts-per-million range.
Josef Koester of Cognis Corp., a Cincinnati-based chemical company that caters to manufacturers seeking "green" compounds, said most companies can avoid 1,4-dioxane but that it "typically requires a higher price point and sometimes performance restrictions for the product. How green the formulators want to go -- it is their choice."
Some organic company owners said it is deceptive for many products to be called natural when the carcinogenic compound indicates that petrochemicals are used in their manufacture.
No standards govern the words natural or organic for personal care products. But a few companies, including TerrEssentials, Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps and Sensibility Soaps Inc., which makes the Nourish brand, have certified their products as organic under the U.S. Department of Agriculture's food standards.
"It makes it really difficult for us to communicate real organic when our little voice gets lost in this sea of products that are all claiming to meet the [USDA organic] standard when, in fact, they don't," said Diana Kaye, co-founder of TerrEssentials, a small Maryland company. All six TerrEssentials soaps and other products tested were free of 1,4-dioxane.
Other brands, including Burt's Bees, Desert Essence and EO, are not certified to meet organic food standards but still contained no 1,4-dioxane in the tests.
But because the vast majority of shampoos, soaps and other consumer goods do not carry the USDA organic seal, it's nearly impossible for buyers to know whether the ones they use contain 1,4-dioxane because the chemical is not listed on ingredient labels. Products most likely to contain the compound usually list polyethylene glycol or compounds with the syllables PEG, short for polyethylene glycol, -eth or -oxynol-,according to the FDA.
Method, a San Francisco-based company whose products are sold at Target, intentionally does not call its products "natural," said co-founder Adam Lowry. Instead, the labels say "naturally derived" because the plant oils have been processed with ethylene oxide to make them better cleansers.
Three of its products were tested, and two -- its ultra-concentrated dish soap and a hand soap -- contained 1,4-dioxane.
"For us there are no alternatives that are still effective," Lowry said. "Unless you can have a high-performance product, if you have a green product or a natural product, then what's the point of having one that doesn't work?"
Method's creamy hand soap, which had 7 parts per million of 1,4-dioxane in the tests, has been reformulated and now contains none, Lowry said.
"We 100% believe that our products are completely safe and there's zero risk," he said.
Whole Foods on Thursday declined to say whether the test results would prompt any changes in products sold at its stores. Three of four products tested in Whole Foods' own product line, 365 Everyday Value, contained 1,4-dioxane.
Dishwashing liquids are particularly hard to keep free of 1,4-dioxane because they require surfactants that are powerful grease cutters.
Seventh Generation uses coconut oil in its dish soaps, which although it is processed with a petrochemical and vacuum-stripped, still contains almost 2 parts per million of 1,4-dioxane. Wolf said the only way to remove all traces would be to use another surfactant that irritates skin, which the Burlington, Vt.-based company considers unacceptable.
Seventh Generation is "working with several surfactant manufacturers to look for alternatives to this process to modify coconut oil," Wolf said. "We're not there yet. We have more work to do."
marla.cone@latimes.com |
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发表于 22-3-2008 05:49 PM
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walau eh..... 我才刚刚用完 Jason 牌的 hair conditioner 哩！ |
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"renew skincare australia" 楼主知道这个牌子吗?
是不是真的是oganic的牌子，我看了ingredient是没看到paraben和sls。
价钱很大众化下，rosehip oil附送eye serum只是$29.95啊！～
会不会太便宜了,是代表精华很少吗？
这是eye serum的
Key Ingredients: OrganicRose Hip Oil, Borage Oil, Macadamia Oil, Avocado Oil, Jojoba Oil,Vitamin E, Hibiscus Extract, Shea Butter, Green Tea Extract, SesameOil, Evening Primrose Oil, Chamomile Extract, Sweet Almond Oil.
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哇！Philosophy! 我好佩服你啊！！
初次报到，请多多指教！！
本来决定要买了，幸亏还没有。。
看看它的成分？好恐怖！！！
Artistry Moisture Rich Vitalising Cleanser: Water, Glycerin, Isododecane, Isoeicosane, Isopropyl Palmitate, Octyl Palmitate, Cetyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Polysorbate 60, Chamomile (Anthemis Nobilis) Extract, Squalane, Meadowfoam (Limnanthes Alba) Seed Oil, Jojoba (Buxus Chinensis) Oil, Aloe Barbadensis Gel, Dipropylene Glycol Dibenzoate, PPG-15 Stearyl Ether Benzoate, Carbomer, Dimethicone, Butylene Glycol, Sodium Hydroxide, Fragrance, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, FD&C Red No. 4, D&C Yellow No. 10.
Artistry Moisture Rich Refreshing Toner: Water, Trimethylolpropane Trioctanoate, Glycerin, Chamomile (Anthemis Nobilis) Extract, Bilberry (Vaccinium Myrtillus) Extract, Sugar Cane (Saccharum Officinarum) Extract, Sugar Maple (Acer Saccharinum) Extract, Orange (Citrus Aurantium Dulcis) Extract, Lemon (Citrus Medica Limonum) Extract, Sodium Hyaluronate, Cephalins, Disodium Cocoamphodiacetate, Glycoproteins, Cetearyl Alcohol, Ceteareth-20, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Steareth-2, Dimethicone, Ceteth-24, Choleth-24, Phospholipids, Disodium EDTA, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Butyl Methoxydibenzoylmethane, Polysorbate 20, Sodium PCA, Fragrance, Propylene Glycol, Diazolidinyl Urea, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, FD&C Red No. 4.
Artistry Moisture Rich Protective Moisturiser with SPF 15: Active Sunscreen Ingredients: Octyl Methoxycinnamate (7.5% w/w), Octyl Salicylate (5.0% w/w), Avobenzone (2.0% w/w)
Other Ingredients: Water, Glyceryl Dilaurate, Glyceryl Stearate, Glycereth-26, Octyldodecyl Neopentanoate, C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate, Aloe Barbadensis Gel, Stearamidopropyl Dimethylamine, Cetyl Alcohol, Grape (Vitis Vinifera) Seed Extract, Phospholipids, Chamomile (Anthemis Nobilis) Extract, Sphingolipids, Cholesterol, Retinyl Palmitate, Sodium Hyaluronate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Squalane, Proline, Panthenol, Glycerin, Hydroxyethylcellulose, Glyceryl Polymethacrylate, Propylene Glycol, PVM/MA Copolymer, PEG-40 Sorbitan Diisostearate, Dimethicone, Dipropylene Glycol Dibenzoate, PPG-15 Stearyl Ether Benzoate, Phosphoric Acid, Disodium EDTA, Fragrance, Butylene Glycol, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben, FD&C Red No. 4. |
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Philosophy! 你很棒哦... 
我最近买了新的facial products, 可以帮我看看它的ingredients OK 吗??
ALOE BATH GELEE
Aloe Barbadensis Gel (Stabilized * Aloe Vera Gelly). Water, Ammonium Lauryl Sulfate, Ammonium Laureth Sulfate, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, PEG-3 Glyceryl Cocorate, Hedera Helix (Ivy) Leaf/Stem Extract, Spiraea Ulmaria Flower Extract, Clematis Vitalba Leaf Extract, Fucus Vesiclosus Extract Equisetum Arvense Extract, Propylene Glycol, Glycerin, Sodim Chloride, Ascorbic Acid, DMDM Hydantoin, Fragrance, Yelloe 5, Blue I.
Aloe Vera Gelly
Aloe Barbadensis Gel (Stabilized * Aloe Vera Gelly). Water, Glycerin, Triethanolamine, Carbomer, Tocopherol (Vitamin E Natural), Allantoin, Ascorbic Acid, Diazolidinyl, Urea, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben.
Rehydrating Toner
Aloe Barbadensis Gel (Stabilized * d'Aloe vera), Eau, Eau distilee d'Hamamelis (Witch hazel) (non alcoolique), Propylene glycol, Collagene soluble, Elastine hydrolysee, Extrait de Citron (Citrus medica limonum), Extrit de Prele (Equisetum arvense), Extrait de fleur de Camomille romaine (Anthemis nobilis), Extrait de Romarin (Rosmarinus officinalis), Sodium PCA, Sodium lactate, Triethnolamine, Allantoine, Diazolidinyl uree, Disodium EDTA, Methylparaben, Menthol, Parum
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好久没来了。。。没忘了我吧？
近来我幼儿园的宝宝们都爱临睡前搽body lotion。
我可怜的手 ，有一个还是用baby oil。
还好这班小瓜很聪明，教了几天，都会自己搽了。。。
看到一个没fragrance，SLS，paraben的body lotion。。。
Neways barrier cream
Aqua, prunus amygdalus dulcis(sweet almond oil), methylpropanediol hydrogenated polydecene, VP/hexadecene copolymer, sodium behenoyl lactylate, polyperfluoromethylisopropyl ether, phenoxyethanol, caplylyl glycol, allantoin, carbomer, cetyl alcohol, chlorphenesin, cetyl hydroxyethylcellelose, disodium EDTA
请你看看如何。。。
对了，MUKTI shampoo我用了数次，
还蛮不错，
只是似乎要用很多。
我挤shampoo在手上（如平常的份量），搓一搓时会起些小泡泡，看起来应该是够用的，可是放在头发上，就总是不能搽完整个头发。你用时有这种状况吗？
还有，
对于那些没清楚列出所有ingredient的护肤品，
我们可以向政府或消费人协会投诉吗？
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哇！好多的资料！！
对我这种皮肤很容易红， 敏感的要知道多一些产品的有害物！！
很少来这里，有空再看仔细！！ |
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原帖由 xiao_pp 于 19-3-2008 10:07 PM 发表 
原来在msia买会较便宜啊，那就得等我下次回才能去买了,我姐说现在klcc有promotion,好象有送sun block。
EPO是想买来给我男友喝的，他脱发很严重（工作后才出现酱的情况，他出油有够严重的，到下午就会油到发 ...
有个帮助头发的秘方,是昆布粉加flaxseed, 你也可以试试.
klcc的promotion时间很短的,才那么几天.
酵素最适合是饭后喝的.
混合性皮肤基本上用那一种精油都无所谓.只要你喜欢就行了
新加坡的琉璃光就有代理黄体素了,osteochondritis dissecans我不大sure,要帮你再check check.不过骨痛的话你可以搽在痛的地方可以soothing. |
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原帖由 yhko 于 21-3-2008 07:41 PM 发表
只是八卦想问下，你是UMS food tech 毕业的吗？
我不是food tech,而是 food science & nutrition.读的东西有点不同 |
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dioxine是在使用chlorin漂白时所产生的副产品,他不但污染环境,而且还被证实能致癌.什么产品会容易有dioxine呢?
免洗筷子, tissue paper, 卫生棉.........这些不都是我们常使用的日常用品吗?
感谢雁风的update(还真是功德无量 ).基本上有些知名有机品牌虽然没有paraben, fragrance, mineral oil之类的添加剂,可是有时侯还是会看到有些chemicals被使用.随着时间,会慢慢证明这些化学物质是不是能经得起考验.而且不止化学物质,天然材料在被加工/萃取的过程中,是否使用chemicals/alcohol,例如精油,植物油,羊毛脂,beeswax等等,所以也要想到你买的牌子他们所秉的信念是否真的纯正. 目前我所认识的品牌,有些仍然使用我觉得有问题的化学物质,当我email厂方提出疑问时,他们认为是无害的.
1) sodium hydroxymethylglycinate
2) polysorbate-20 / tween-20
3) polysorbate-80 / tween-80
4) phenoxyethanol
看到报导最后写到"It makes it really difficult for us to communicate real organic when our little voice gets lost in this sea of products that are all claiming to meet the [USDA organic] standard when, in fact, they don't,"
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