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翻译#2471∶毫不留情∶诬蔑行动党领袖是陈平亲戚的是巫统
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我的ｍａｉｌ ｂｏｘ 里还有一个是 ｓａｉ ｈａｍｉｄ 的专访的， 但是英文的，可惜我的翻译功夫不到家。。。。。 |
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要建大佛的是你们。
大佛建来做什么？只不过是一个大大的泥水块。你要传播佛理，索丽啦！没得斟。回教党了解华人不深。 |
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原帖由 birder 于 2-4-2009 09:36 PM 发表 
開貼徵求翻譯～
我好想看～ 
我ｃｏｐｙ 下来给你看了，好长下的。。。。
From: Andrew Lim <andrewcslim@yahoo.com>
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Malaysia Today interviews the Home Minister
To:
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 2008, 10:48 PM
Subject: Fwd: Fw: Malaysia Today interviews the Home Minister
To: Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 1:13 PM
Am so enlightened!
*Malaysia Today interviews the Home Minister *
Posted by admin
Tuesday, 09 December 2008 17:31
*NO HOLDS BARRED*
*Raja Petra Kamarudin *
*Malaysia Today:* YB, thank you for agreeing to an interview with *Malaysia
Today*'s *No Holds Barred* column.
*Yang Berhormat:* Thank you for inviting me. It is very
seldom that the alternative media would interview a member of the Cabinet so that we can set the record straight and correct the lies and wrong perception about the government, which are spread by the alternative media. Normally, the alternative media just reports rumours without obtaining the government's side of the story. I congratulate the alternative media for becoming more mature in giving the government space to inform the public of the truth.
But before we start, I would like to offer my condolence to the Indian government on the recent tragedy in Mumbai. I thank God that Malaysia does not suffer such acts of terrorism, primarily because we have the Internal Security Act, which allows us to detain terrorist before they can cause any harm to society. This shows that the Internal Security Act has been very successful in
maintaining law and order and in safeguarding the security of this country.
MT: Since you have brought up the matter of the ISA, YB, can we start by talking about that?
YB: Sure.
MT: The people criticise the ISA and=85=85.
YB: Which people? The alternative media always talks about 'the people'. But which people are you talking about?
MT: Well, I suppose the civil society movements and human rights movements.
YB: These people are in the minority. The majority of the people voted for the government. So this means the majority support the ISA. If not they would not have voted for the government. It is the majority that counts, not the minority. We can't make laws or abolish laws just for the sake of the minority. We must do what the
majority wants. The ISA is to prevent terrorism. If, in 2001, the US also had the ISA, their Twin Towers would still be standing. Malaysia's Twin Towers is still standing because of the ISA.
MT: But the ISA is not used against terrorists. The government has always said that Malaysia does not have any terrorists. The ISA is used to deny the people freedom of speech.
YB: There is still freedom of speech in Malaysia. Who says that there is no freedom of speech?
MT: It is not freedom of speech which does not exist in Malaysia. It is freedom after speech.
YB: That is different. Then you can't say that there is no freedom of speech in Malaysia. There is freedom of speech. Of course, if you say the wrong things, then you run the risk of being detained under the ISA. *Berani cakap, berani tanggunglah*!
MT: Okay, then what would you regard as 'saying the wrong things'?
YB: Well, like inciting the people to hate the government or saying something that may start racial problems.
MT: But we already have so many other laws like the Sedition Act, Criminal Defamation, PPPA, and so on, to charge those who may have broken the law. Why the need to detain them under the ISA? Just charge them in court.
YB: That would not be so easy. We will need evidence to charge them in court. Without evidence how to charge them?
MT: But how do you know all those people who the government has detained under the ISA have committed a crime? Is it not possible they are all innocent?
YB: No, we have evidence. That is why we detained them.
MT: But if you have evidence then why not use this evidence to charge them?
YB: I already said there is not enough evidence to charge them.
MT: But there is enough evidence to detain them?
YB: Yes. The evidence is enough to detain them, only not enough to charge them.
MT: But when you sign the Detention Order you must first see all the evidence. Is this not so?
YB: That is true. Only when I am satisfied there is enough evidence will I sign the Detention Order.
MT: But you still feel that the evidence, though sufficient to detain them, is not sufficient enough to charge them.
YB: That is correct. But the detainee still has a chance to appear before the Advisory Board within three months to argue his case. If the Advisory Board is of the opinion that the detainee is innocent then he will be released. So we are quite fair.
MT: Have many people been released through the recommendations of the Advisory Board so far?
YB: Well, not many....maybe none so far. But this only means we were not wrong in detaining them. If not, surely the Advisory Board would hav recommended their release.
MT: But there have been reports that, from time to time, the Advisory Board has recommended the release of some detainees. However, the Home Minister has always overruled their recommendations.
YB: Yes, that is true. This is because the Advisory Board was mistaken and we did not agree with their recommendations. So we overruled them.
MT: This would mean the Advisory Board is a lame duck and has no power. It is the Home Minister who has the final say. Would this not be so?
YB: That is not true. The Advisory Board does have power.
MT: Power to do what?
YB: Power to recommend the release of the detainee.
MT: But the Minister does not follow their recommendation and overrules them. The Minister has the final say.
YB: But this does not mean the Advisory Board does not have power.
MT: If you say so YB. Okay, can we now talk about the Umno party elections and the numerous complaints about corruption in the party?
YB: What corruption are you talking about? There is no corruption in Umno.
MT: But the mainstream media has been reporting the many complaints of money politics.
YB: That is money politics, not corruption.
MT: Is there a difference?
YB: Of course there is. Corruption is when you pay to get something. Money politics is not corruption.
MT: What would you call money politics then?
YB: Money politics is.......well, money politics.
MT: And that is not corruption?
YB: Of course not. |
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[quote]原帖由 媚pg 于 2-4-2009 11:14 PM 发表
MT: Okay, whatever. Now, on the matter of race relations, don't you think that Malaysia is very dangerously being pushed to the brink of racial problems?
YB: That is why we have so many times said that the opposition is stirring the sentiments of the many races.
MT: But it is not the opposition that is doing this.
YB: Then who?
MT: Umno.
YB: Umno is a responsible party. We do not play the race card. It is the opposition that is doing this.
MT: In what way is the opposition doing this?
YB: They are asking for the government to abolish *Ketuanan Melayu* and the NEP. This makes the Malays angry and may cause the Malays to *mengamuk*. The opposition should stop all this nonsense before the peace and harmony of this country is compromised.
MT: But is it not time we treat all Malaysians equal and no longer treat one race as having more privileges than others?
YB: *Aiyah*, how can! That is the kind of talk that makes the Malays angry. It is dangerous to suggest such things. We must maintain the harmony between the many races and not say things like that.
MT: But what gives one race the right to have more privileges than others?
YB: That was the agreement when we gained *Merdeka* in 1957. How can we go back on what was agreed?
MT: What agreement?
YB: The *Social Contract* that was agreed by the Malays, Chinese and Indians.
MT: Many say that the *Social Contract* does not exist. Have you ever seen it? Can Malaysians see a copy?
YB: It was not a written contract. It was a verbal contract.
MT: When was it made and under want circumstances was it made?
YB: It was agreed upon when Umno, MCA and MIC jointly negotiated for * Merdeka* from the British.
MT: And what were the terms of the contract?
YB: That Malay would be the National Language and Islam the official religion plus the Malays would be accorded special rights and privileges such as certain quotas in the civil service and in educational institutions.
MT: But has this not since been amended many times in breach of the original *Social Contract*?
YB: No! In what way has it changed? Everything still remains the same.
MT: The government imposes new rules such as companies must be 100% *
Bumiputera* before they can get import permits or APs and 30% of houses built must be sold to *Bumiputera*s according to the land area and so on. This was not part of the so-called *Social Contract* agreed by Umno, MCA and MIC before *Merdeka*. They are new rules made up as we went along.
YB: True. But the non-Malays accepted them.
MT: How do you know they accepted them?
YB: Because they continued to vote for the government. If they did not agree then they would not have voted for the government.
MT: But they did not vote for the government. 49% of the Malays and more than 80% of the Chinese and Indians did not vote for the government in the last general election. This means they do not agree with the government policies.
YB: But we still won more than 60% of the Parliament seats.
MT: That is only because of Gerrymandering. Malay majority seats like Putrajaya, where the voters are 98% Malay, have only 5,000 voters while seats that are 80% or more non-Malay have 120,000 voters or more. That is why the government still won and not because the majority voted for it.
YB: That is beside the point. We still can't deny the fact that we won 140 seats and the
opposition won only 82 seats.
MT: Yes, but if the votes were evenly divided between constituencies with a variation of plus-minus 20% the government would have fallen by now. It is only through Gerrymandering that the government managed to hold on to power.
YB: That is your opinion. It does not mean it is true.
MT: Thank you, YB, for the interview. I am sure you have helped enlighten Malaysians with your view of things.
YB: Thank you. I hope I have managed to rebut the opposition lies and propaganda and I look forward to similar sessions in future where the government can be given an opportunity to set the record straight.
我看了只觉得我国的内政部长。。。。教育水准就像只有小学程度。。。。 |
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http://chinese.cari.com.my/news/ ... sshow.php?pg=101583
巫统总财政起诉诽谤案获胜
法庭谕令柏特拉赔偿一百万
4月3日 中午12点37分
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巫统总财政阿都阿兹因（Abdul Azim Mohd）起诉著名部落客拉惹柏特拉诽谤一案获胜，吉隆坡法庭今日宣判，后者必须赔偿100万令吉。
阿都阿兹因指责《今日马来西亚》部落格，刊登两篇具有诽谤性的文章，因此入禀法庭起诉柏特拉。
根据《星报》报道，法庭高级助理主簿官诺哈蒂妮（Nor Hatini Abdul Hamid）昨日在内庭宣判，柏特拉必须赔偿50万令吉的一般赔偿（General Damages）、30万令吉的加重赔偿（Aggravated Damages），以及20万令吉的惩罚性赔偿（Exemplary Damages）。
阿叔反对RPK在部文中参入假料，或半讲半不讲，若是RPK看得入脑就好了。 |
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毕治当时被当时的捕抓原住民为奴隶的做法是吓坏了。他下令要马上停止这种野蛮行为。对毕治来说，这虽然是值得称颂的功德。但却像是一种逼一群吃人族在一天之内成为茹素之人的行为。他这种要把当地人文明化的神圣热诚却为他带来杀身之祸。
Birch原來是要解放原住民奴隶而被殺 。原來我中四中五讀的sejarah是漂白過的。 |
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《毫不留情》给外国人的马来西亚文化课程
出处∶http://mt.m2day.org/2008/content/view/20130/84/
作者∶Raja Petra Kamarudin
日期∶03-04-2009
原题∶A lesson in Malaysian culture, for foreigners
今天我们来看看一个给刚到任的外国大使的太太们的说明环节。这个环节是为了要帮助外使太太们更为了解大马文化以及避免尴尬场面。
女士们，女士们，女士们，让我们进入正题吧。
欢迎来到马来西亚。你们将会至少在这里呆上两年。为了让你们在这里的生活更为享受和免去麻烦，我们会在这里给你一个简短课程让你明白大马文化。
首先，这里是没有所谓的大马人。我们有的是四种族群，称为土著，是马来人的另一个名称；华人，拼写是C-I-N-A，发音是“基訥”；印度人，土著有时叫他们做吉宁人或兴都人；然后还有lain-lain也就是‘其他人’。而我们，恐怕都不属于这其中任何四种。土著叫我们 ‘末沙列’而华人则叫我们做‘鬼佬’。
现在，正当我才说没有所谓的大马人，但印度人和华人会坚持你们称他们为大马人。印度人，在争论有关印度人的权益时，却会坚持他们是印度人。但是，当他们说自己是印度人时，你不可以叫他们作印度人。他们会觉得被冒犯了。你一定要叫他们做大马人。华人也一样。
马来人就更加复杂一点。他们坚持他们是土著，意思是‘大地之子’。但他们会要求你称他们为马来人。他们会争论一些东西如马来人至上，也就是说马来人是主人等其他的好听词藻。不过不要紧的，时间一久，你们就会明白大马人是如何思维的，也就是他们会给你一个印象就是，他们其实不太会想。
在聚会时，每个族群都有自己的文化。华人的就很直接。他们爱吃豪华大餐然后，一边欣赏台上的半裸女郎唱歌跳舞。马来西亚政府已经正式接受这个是华人文化。你会注意到所有政府赞助的聚会都是诸如此类的。
马来人的聚会就不性感了。他们时常以“马来人至上”作开头，然后亲吻一把小弯刀，叫做马来短剑的，发音是‘克里斯’，作为结束。身为回教徒，他们不能够有半裸的年轻女郎公开在台上唱歌跳舞。这些事情大都是在背地里作的。
印度人的聚会文化既不性感也无拔剑气氛。他们会邀请国大党的主席来为他们的聚会祝福。他们会唱一些称赞他的歌，拥抱他，吻他的手。有时他们兴奋起来，会向他丢拖鞋。这个当然，是看当天的什么时间，也要看印度人用的是哪一个仪式。
你不会看到一个华人私人司机。大多数的豪华车都是华人的，他们的私人司机通常是马来人或印度人。保安护卫也一样。他们全部不是马来人，就是印度人，不然就是其他人。从来不是华人。我们认为这是因为华人不相信他们的族人驾他们的车或负责他们的保安。
当进入一个大马人的家中时，你一定要脱鞋。这是唯一所有四种族群中人都有的习惯。当你邀请大马人到你家时，你会注意到他们在进入们前时，也会脱下他们的鞋。所以我们劝告你们在家外面放个鞋架，若你有邀请大马人来你家。
宗教庆节时大家都会发出一个里面装有钱财的小纸包。华人会用红色的，马来人用青色的，印度人看来在他们宗教庆节时是没有这种习惯的。但是若你给的话，他们是不会拒绝的，特别是在选举的时候。
马来西亚的官方语言是不一定的。以前是叫国语，后来叫马来语。后来叫做标准语。现在叫做马来西亚语。实际上这四种都是同样的东西，只是不同的拼写罢了。
因此，这里是没有所谓的大马语言。所以也许这就是政府在发展马来西亚的官方语言所面对的困境。大多数的马来语词汇都是借自泰国，印度，中国，葡萄牙，荷兰，阿拉伯和英文。我被告知说，只有五六个字才能够称得上是源自马来人自己。
联邦政府是由三个主要的政党领导，叫做国阵。你会注意到，尽管如此，三个政党的名字 -- Umno, MCA和MIC都是用英文来代表。没有一个是用大马的国语。但是，这三个政党还是很热衷地捍卫大马国语，虽然没有一个政党要用大马国语来做他们政党的名字。
好了，我们今天的如何明白大马文化之第一课就到这里结束。明天我们会谈谈大马文化和传统的其他事项，例如这个国家的教育和经济政策，还有这些政策中附带的固打制度。教育固打制度是很容易了解的。在一些高教机构，学生全是马来人，然后其他的族群是不能够在这里求学的。
我们希望，在这三天课程后，你会更明白马来西亚。然后你将会发觉，大马人是很难理解的。他们嘴上说的是一套，心里想的是另一套。例如说，当你邀请他们一起吃晚餐时，他们会说‘不，谢了’。实际上他们的意思是‘噢，好啊’。若你真的是以为他们的意思是‘不，谢了’的话，他们会很生气，然后觉得你骄傲和自负。
[ 本帖最后由 ecs283 于 3-4-2009 09:08 PM 编辑 ] |
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原帖由 alexlee3727 于 1-4-2009 09:01 PM 发表 
阿伯，为何你的贴总给人一种感觉的：帮你的主子挡箭？？？你难道不会用最简单的逻辑思想来思考吗？这五十一年来，国阵到底为我们马来西亚人民真正做出过什么贡献呢？你都一把年纪了，难道还不会分事情的是非吗？你每 ...
有一句话的，可以形容留下眼睛的，
树大有枯枝，人多有白痴，
树没有树皮，必死无疑，人没有脸皮，天下无敌。 |
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讽刺得几厉害下的．．． |
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原帖由 Hitman47 于 3-4-2009 08:19 PM 发表 
有一句话的，可以形容留下眼睛的，
树大有枯枝，人多有白痴，
树没有树皮，必死无疑，人没有脸皮，天下无敌。
天啊~！怎么你会这么了解他？ |
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Pembentukan Tradisi 传统的由来 The origin of Tradition
《传统的由来》这篇文章不知由谁写的。只知道在2001年左右就出现了。
图片的文字是乌都文(urdu)
“How traditions and customs are born?”
“传统的由来”
“Pembentukan Tradisi”
 “Group of scientists put 5 monkeys in a cage. In that cage they also placed a ladder and some bananas on top of it.”
“科学家把五只猴子放在笼子里。笼子里摆有一张梯子。梯子上放有一些香蕉。”
“Para saintis menempatkan 5 ekor monyet di dalam satu kurungan besi. Di dalam kurungan itu juga diletakkan sebuah tangga. Diatas tangga itu ada setandan pisang.”
 “Whenever a monkey began to climb that ladder, the scientists started sprinkling water on the rest of the monkeys standing below. ”
“每当有猴子开始爬上梯子，科学家就开始向其他的猴子喷洒冷水。”
“Setiap kali bila ada monyet cuba memanjat tangga，saintis akan menyembuh air sejuk kepada monyet yang lain.”
 "After some repeated event, whenever a monkey tried to climb that ladder driven by the desire to eat bananas, the monkeys standing below did not allow him to climb."
“在经过几次的同样事情后，每次有猴子抵受不住香蕉的引诱而试着要爬上梯子时，其他的猴子都不容许他这么做。”
“Selepas berlakunya perkara yang sama unutk beberapa kali，setiap kali bila ada monyet cuba
memanjat tangga untuk mendapatkan pisang, dia akan dihalang oleh monyet yang lain.”
 "After a while, despite the lure of bananas, no monkey had the courage to climb that ladder."
"过了一阵子，虽然有香蕉的引诱，但再也没有猴子敢爬梯子了。"
“Selepas beberapa ketika, sungguhpun ada godaan daripada pisang, tiada lagi monyet yang berani cuba memanjat tangga itu.”
 "The scientists decided to replace one of the monkeys. The first thing the new monkey did was to climb the ladder but immediately the other monkeys began to beat him. After many beatings the new monkey decided that he would not climb the ladder even though he didn’t know why. " note∶no more water sprinkling this time.
"科学家决定把一只猴子换出来。新猴子做的第一件事就是爬梯子，但是马上被其他的猴子痛殴。在被痛殴几次后，新猴子决定再也不爬梯子，虽然他不明白其中原因。" 特注：这时科学家不再有喷射冷水的举动。
“Para saintis lalu menukarkan salah satu monyet itu dengan seekor monyet baru. Perkara pertama yang dibuat oleh monyet baru ialah memanjat tangga. Akan tetapi, ia terus dipukul oleh monyet lama yang lain. Setelah ulangnya beberapa kali perkara yang sama, monyet baru tidak lagi hendak memanjat tangga sungguhpun ia tidak ketahui sebabnya.” nota: Para saintis tidak lagi menyembur air sejuk kali ini.
 "The scientists replaced a 2nd monkey, and the same thing happened with him. The interesting thing is that the monkey who had been replaced before him was among the monkeys who were beating the new monkey most. The 3rd monkey was replaced, and he too went through the same fate. Eventually all the monkeys were replaced and everyone of them got a beating."
"科学家再把一只旧猴子换出来，同样的事情也发生在他身上。有趣的是，第一只被换进去的新猴子是痛殴第二只新猴子最够力的。把第三只新猴子换进去后，同样的事情继续发生。最后，所有的旧猴子都被换了出来，而每只猴都被痛殴过。"
“Para saintis lalu menggantikan seekor lagi monyet yang baru, dimana perkara yang sama juga berlaku keatasnya. Apa yang menarik ialah, monyet baru pertama memukul monyet baru kedua dengan paling teruk sekali. Bila mengganti masuk dengan monyet baru ketiga, perkara yang sama diulangi lagi. Pada akhirnya, semua monyet lama telah diganti keluar dan semua monyet diganti masuk telah dipukul dengan teruknya.”
 "Now only those monkeys were in the cage on which scientists had never sprinkled water, but still they beat up the monkey who attempted to climb the ladder."
"现在在笼子里的猴子都没有被水喷射过，但他们还是会痛殴试着爬梯子的猴子。"
“Walaupun semua monyet yang ada pada kurungan itu tidak pernah disembur air sejuk tetapi mereka tetap memukul monyet yang cuba memanjat tangga.”
 "If it was possible to ask those monkeys why are they beating up the monkey trying to climb the ladder, i can say with guarantee that the answer would be “I don’t know. We have seen others doing the same (so we do it too).” Does this sound familiar to you?"
"若我们能够问那些猴子为何他们痛殴想爬梯子的猴子时，我可以说答案就是‘我不知道，其他的都这么做，所以我这么做。’这听起来是不是很熟悉呢？"
“Jikalau kita dapat menanya monyet itu kenapa memukul monyet yang cuba memanjat tangga, saya pasti jawapan mereka ialah 'saya tak tahu, orang lain buat begitu, maka saya pun buat begitu.' Bukankah ini sesuatu yang selalu didengar?”
[ 本帖最后由 ecs283 于 4-4-2009 01:40 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 4-4-2009 02:22 PM
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我感觉有点象猴子 ~ 
传统是会跟着社会的脚步改变的 |
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发表于 4-4-2009 04:45 PM
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