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发表于 12-7-2008 11:20 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 悶蛋 于 12-7-2008 11:11 AM 发表

诶,错了吗?

我是针对这个发表的哦,
江兄说的大众,如果长收不卖,则回酬是:
長期持有的話是  6.05 / 1.822 = 332%
以技術來買賣的巴仙率是 58120.22 / 10000 = 581.2%。。。


相差了 259.2% 。。。真的比較 ...


瓦哈哈,那么你怎么不奋身买入public bank呢??

可我看来看去,你好像对其他股比较爱恋嘛。。。。

maybulk 既然是你的心头好,不如你也来个长期投资吧。。。。我们三十年后再见。。。

p/s: 我的原意是。。。。基本进,基本出,技术进,技术出。。。。谈基本的时候,就已基本为主,谈技  
       术的时候,当然以技术为主。。。。
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发表于 12-7-2008 11:28 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 财散人聚 于 12-7-2008 11:20 AM 发表


瓦哈哈,那么你怎么不奋身买入public bank呢??

可我看来看去,你好像对其他股比较爱恋嘛。。。。

maybulk 既然是你的心头好,不如你也来个长期投资吧。。。。我们三十年后再见。。。 : ...

那就对了,没弄错,
大众只是个例子,
我想要的多咯,只是很多没到时候,
也没这么多钱买
所以暂时就集中些投资,
大概不会超过三只股票,
也就是说我只会再为自己的组合增加一支股票而已
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发表于 12-7-2008 09:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 弹煮 于 12-7-2008 09:24 AM 发表
买到周期性股票在错误的时机,并不比买错股来的错。
最难堪的是,都已经买错时机,竟然连卖出也卖错时机。


赞同....

世界上最毒的庄.......慢火清蒸.......

就是他的股价有下没上.....一直到收盘...

无论你是那一派的高手...看图..看盘..看基...
无论你的资本有多大.....除非你是芭非特..(倒置收购... )

遇到这些股.....唯一可以做的就是一定要断臂离场...然后对自己说......"真倒霉..."
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发表于 15-7-2008 08:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
15 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -31    9150
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BCI
(Cape index)   
BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13200
+51
  9378
-150
5474
-22
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
155519
+407
75421
-1224
57237
-233
YESTERDAY(USD)
155112
76645
57470
YEAR AGO (USD)
97892
58644
45915
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发表于 18-7-2008 08:36 AM | 显示全部楼层
17 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -33    9059
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BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13336
+117
  8983
-198
5423
-28
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
155645
+811
72238
-1584
56707
-291
YESTERDAY(USD)
154834
73822
56998
YEAR AGO (USD)
93967
57618
46584
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发表于 19-7-2008 02:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
Saturday July 19, 2008
Dry bulk rates to drop further as China closes mills

NEWS ANALYSIS
By SHARIDAN M. ALI


THE gradual downward trend of dry bulk freight rates is expected to continue as China, the world’s biggest iron ore importer, will cut import of the commodity with the completion of the Olympics projects.

Also, steel mills in Beijing have been asked to halt operations for 60 days starting yesterday to reduce pollution during the games next month.

OSK Research in a recent report said: “While Beijing has a small percentage of the nation’s steel mills, factories in the neighbouring provinces of Hebei, Shanxi and Shandong make up some 30% of China’s total steel production.

“Even partial closure of these factories to reduce pollution could have a serious impact on iron ore demand and therefore the demand for dry bulk shipping.”

In mid-June, Chinese ports were ordered to clear excess iron ore stocks that had clogged operations, due to concerns that the excess cargo might flood the domestic market and hurt freight rates.

The Baltic Dry Index (BDI), after reaching a peak of 11,793 points on May 20, had slumped by 23.2% to 9,059 points on July 17. It was 6,462 points on Jan 18.

The BDI, managed by the Baltic Exchange in London, reflects the dry bulk shipping rates. It is an assessment of the price of moving the major raw materials by sea.

The index covers Supramax, Panamax, and Capesize dry bulk carriers carrying a range of commodities, including coal, iron ore and grain.

Last year, the BDI climbed gradually by 161.6% from 4,219 points on Feb 1 to 11,039 points on Nov 13.

From early last year to mid-July this year, the BDI seemed to have gone through a cycle.

If it is cyclical, following the gradual decrease since May, the BDI should be picking up in the fourth quarter.

OSK Research Sdn Bhd associate director Chris Eng expected the BDI to trend down gradually before rising again in October.

“Then again, it has remained very resilient at 9,000 points while we had earlier expected a fall to 7,000 points.

“The resolution of iron ore price negotiations could also mean that more iron ore is bought (by China) from Australia compared with Brazil leading to lower tonne-mile demand (therefore cheaper rates).

“In any case, the BDI usually takes a break in May or June and surges again in September. We feel that the BDI will stabilise but will not slump. Even if the BDI falls to 6,000 points, that is still a very profitable level for dry bulk ship owners.”

He said Malaysian Bulk Carriers Bhd (Maybulk), a premier dry bulk vessel owner, should see increased profits if rates stabilised.

“But, given its strong net cash position, a drop in rates will likely lead to a drop in ship prices, which means the ideal time to expand for Maybulk,” he said.

A relatively new player in the market, Hubline Bhd is currently enjoying good returns from its dry bulk segment.

For the six months ended March 31, the group’s net profit hit RM35.1mil, an increase of RM20.4mil from the previous corresponding period.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2008/7/19/business/21867124&sec=business
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发表于 20-7-2008 07:52 PM | 显示全部楼层
18 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -47    9012
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BCI
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BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13411
+75
  8788
-195
5392
-31
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
156494
+849
70686
-1552
56376
-331
YESTERDAY(USD)
155645
72238
56707
YEAR AGO (USD)
95001
57301
46984
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发表于 21-7-2008 09:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
21 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -51    8961
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BCI
(Cape index)   
BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13404
-7
  8662
-126
5353
-39
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
156591
+97
69666
-1020
55972
-404
YESTERDAY(USD)
156494
70686
56376
YEAR AGO (USD)
96706
54545
47325
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发表于 22-7-2008 08:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
22 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -57    8904
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(Cape index)   
BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13449
+45
  8461
-201
5318
-35
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
156841
+250
68040
-1626
55607
-365
YESTERDAY(USD)
156591
69666
55972
YEAR AGO (USD)
98324
57722
47634
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发表于 28-7-2008 08:43 PM | 显示全部楼层

这次的考验能否安全渡过?

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发表于 29-7-2008 08:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
28 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -124    8513
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BCI
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BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13192
-225
  7644
-110
5091
-64
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
152725
-3189
61435
-888
53235
-663
YESTERDAY(USD)
155914
62323
53898
YEAR AGO (USD)
102573
59354
49099
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发表于 29-7-2008 05:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
只看bdi?没人看油价吗?我曾问过,油价对他没影响吗?
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发表于 29-7-2008 05:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
最近EPF不断地买进MAYBULK。。。
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发表于 29-7-2008 05:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
Maybulk要倒霉了。。。

。。。高油價、高通脹、低增長,開始影響一些周期性行業,由亞洲出口到歐美的貨物減少,直接威脅到航運業,高盛發表研究報告,將中國遠洋(1919)[股價及相關新聞] 的評級定為沽出,並加入「確信沽售」名單,目標價16元,因預計航運市場有下跌風險。在高盛出報告後,中國遠洋昨日早段已應聲跌穿19元。

航運股未衰完

高盛睇淡反映運費的波羅的海指數,預計在09及10年會分別按年下跌40%及47%,即係話運費會大跌,令航運股盈利表現將受影響。由於早前好景吸引船公司大量訂購新船,市場的運載力將於2011年倍增,在供應增加的情況下,運費有下跌的風險,亦會對航運股帶來一定衝擊。高盛將中國遠洋的評級定為沽出,目標價僅16元,較現價有接近15%的下跌空間。。。。

http://cforum006.cari.com.my/vie ... page=23#pid46033463
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发表于 29-7-2008 05:17 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 1136# Mr.Business 的帖子

那么EPF不是又要中招了???
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发表于 29-7-2008 05:21 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 1137# 基金小子 的帖子

看你是短期还是长期。股价跌是提供低价买进的机会,不是吗?月满而缺,潮起潮落,很正常的。。。
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发表于 29-7-2008 08:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
现在我存著子弹,打算买入少少来降低我买入的平均价。。。
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发表于 30-7-2008 11:04 AM | 显示全部楼层
今天有好价...卖掉了....
亏少少.....等看有什么时机么....
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发表于 30-7-2008 11:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
船运指数已经跌到很厉害了....
看来美国衰退对船运有很大的影响...
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发表于 31-7-2008 08:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
30 July 2008

Baltic Dry Index (BDI)  -46    8388
Spot Rates
BCI
(Cape index)   
BPI
(Panamax index)
BSI
(Supramax index)
INDEX
  13077
-55
7524
-3
4953
-71
SPOT 4 TCE AVG(USD)
150269
-886
60466
-30
51793
-740
YESTERDAY(USD)
151155
60496
52533
YEAR AGO (USD)
104760
59293
49267
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