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eelin_chin

我觉得KL的big4很难进哦，其他州比较容易吧。。。。我进到新山的big4,但因为家人说新山很乱，很危险，叫我去新加坡做。。。也不错，是big5哦。。。

alienwong

原帖由 eelin_chin 于 15-6-2007 09:14 AM 发表
我觉得KL的big4很难进哦，其他州比较容易吧。。。。我进到新山的big4,但因为家人说新山很乱，很危险，叫我去新加坡做。。。也不错，是big5哦。。。

我也是拿到新山的BIG4，新山治安真的很乱，不懂怎样才好。。。

那你现在是进到新加坡的BDO？福利如何？？？？

Coolly

原帖由 reekinv 于 15-6-2007 08:22 AM 发表

我也知道要进到BIG 4是没有什么机会了的...现在只希望MEDIUM FIRM.


那成绩需要列入RESUME的吗?

Better list down la...

Financial accounting( Group accountant) and Management accounting ( management/cost accountant) are totally different.. finanacial reporting are more on the standard reporting to external parties such as CCM,SEC which need to comply with the FRS, IFRS, SOX and GAAP principles ( for MNC).

Management accounting are more on the costing system such as Standard costing or activity based costing, it's a matter on how the company to define, measure and allocate their cost, also the budget are use as management tools.

Example: Stocks

For manaufacturing industries, the management accountant would concern on the allocation/absortion of cost ( cost center, costing system) of difference products ( some company evern have more than 100 products)  as the management need to ascertain the actual cost so it can reflect the actual position of products performance (pricing,GP contribution). The auditor would concern on the NRV to ascertain the company sell their products above the costs and review the costing system based on the company's costing system.


Analysis (Financial analysis/ cost accountant) is to provide the information to the management for decision making such as cost-benefit analysis which involved CAPEX and OPEX.E.G. tree-analysis.

Example, if the company want to buy a forklift ( New or used forklift) ,the analysis report will included the ROI, life spam, opportunity cost ( maintenance cost) , hidden cost ( additional driver, training),effective/nominal interest rate favorable/unfavouravle ( rate offer by finance institution) ,financing method (leasing,hire purchase,cash), payment period (Cash flow management: % of downpayment, % of amount financing),Tax implication (Diffrence btw depreciation rate and CA, leasing can't claim IA & CA) and etc.

For the audit purpose, the auditor would not concern on the company's decision on to financing of the forklift even though the company may over budget to purchase the forklift. The auditor's objective are simple, to ascertain the accuracy ( amount), existence (exist and in good condition) and validity (approved by BOD)of the purchase of the forklift.

That's why i said the commercial line and audit line are totally different. Commerical line are more on decision making while the audit are to meet the audit objective. Although work as auditor  can explore to different industries, but the things see are  more on surface only compared to management accountant.My suggestion is work as auditor 3-4 years ( if not consider audit line as ur lifetime career) are more than enough ( some even can't tahan for 1 years especially in big 4)

My chinese software been corrupted so i typed in english..my apologize

[ 本帖最后由 Cake 于 16-6-2007 02:30 AM 编辑 ]

reekinv

原帖由 Coolly 于 16-6-2007 01:07 AM 发表


Better list down la...

那么如果有FAIL过的PAPER,FAIL的成绩也要写出来吗?
这样做会不会连INTERVIEW的机会都没有呢?

Coolly

原帖由 reekinv 于 16-6-2007 09:25 AM 发表


那么如果有FAIL过的PAPER,FAIL的成绩也要写出来吗?
这样做会不会连INTERVIEW的机会都没有呢?

不用写，就写你pass了的就好了。。。。

[ 本帖最后由 Coolly 于 16-6-2007 11:39 AM 编辑 ]

tcs78

原帖由 yein0014 于 14-6-2007 10:46 PM 发表


那天看了。。。。website没有。。。可是听人家说，gurney tower 有喔！！

你要申请BDO PENANG？

怎么不申请BIG ４？

yein0014

原帖由 tcs78 于 16-6-2007 01:35 PM 发表



你要申请BDO PENANG？

怎么不申请BIG ４？

申请了。。。。没有回复。。。。

希望明天会更好

原帖由 eelin_chin 于 15-6-2007 09:14 AM 发表
我觉得KL的big4很难进哦，其他州比较容易吧。。。。我进到新山的big4,但因为家人说新山很乱，很危险，叫我去新加坡做。。。也不错，是big5哦。。。

新加坡big 5 是　rsm chio lim 还是　bdo？
要签contract / bond 的吗？

yein0014

原帖由 西楚 于 16-6-2007 06:21 PM 发表
我也是要找新加坡的，友好介绍吗？？

big 4 咯。。。。

希望明天会更好

原帖由 西楚 于 16-6-2007 06:21 PM 发表
我也是要找新加坡的，友好介绍吗？？

发现你严重灌水。。

eelin_chin

原帖由 希望明天会更好 于 16-6-2007 06:12 PM 发表


新加坡big 5 是　rsm chio lim 还是　bdo？
要签contract / bond 的吗？

是LTC & Associates。 big5 有5间，分别是：Chio Lim Stone Forest, Foo Kon Tan Grant Thornton, BDO Raffles, DKF, LTC & Assocaites

只有两间要人，LTC  和  Foo Kon Tan...

要签1.5年的合约，很合理，因为他怕你学会东西半年后跑掉。。。给的价钱和新山的big4一样。。。

新山真的很乱，不是我不要在那里做，big4得做到很迟，在那租房或驾车来回都随时有生命危险。。。家人真的很反对。。。

eelin_chin

原帖由 西楚 于 16-6-2007 06:21 PM 发表
我也是要找新加坡的，友好介绍吗？？

新加坡big4都只要新加坡大学毕业的，只有KPMG收马来西亚的，试试看big5吧，不错，满新的，能大展拳脚，不用跟随旧风格。。。

miko18

UBS SOFTWARE TRIAL BAL 和 BAK SHEET 不能 BALANCE
该虫和 CHECK 起?


THANKS

miko18

请问每一年的 TYPE OF ACCOUNT NAME OF OPENING BAL 要带来 THIS YEAR 的
可以 WRITTE TO  ME .



THANKS.

EXAMPLE :

MOTOE VEHICLE
DEP. MOTOE VEHICLE
CASH IN HAND
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THANKS

希望明天会更好

原帖由 miko18 于 21-6-2007 01:43 AM 发表
UBS SOFTWARE TRIAL BAL 和 BAK SHEET 不能 BALANCE
该虫和 CHECK 起?


THANKS

去transactions -) print batch transactions
看debit 和credit那一个不一样就是那个batch有问题了．

原帖由 miko18 于 21-6-2007 01:58 AM 发表
请问每一年的 TYPE OF ACCOUNT NAME OF OPENING BAL 要带来 THIS YEAR 的
可以 WRITTE TO  ME .



THANKS.

EXAMPLE :

MOTOE VEHICLE
DEP. MOTOE VEHICLE
CASH IN HAND
.
.
.
.
.

THANKS

参考ubs handbook

快乐就是福

有人在rsm 做吗？

要穿很formal的吗？

miko18

Thanks ... 希望明天会更好

我有去transactions -) print batch transactions， 我 key in 的 this year data debit/credit
都 balance, 可是 OPENING BALANCE 不 BALANCE. .

在请问我有开 project account for our branch .
是否 PROJECT 的 OPENING BAL key in 在 ENTER PROJECT OPENING BAL ?


是否branch 的 trial bal 能不能 balance ?

THANKS


Pls Help me

yein0014

请问一下，big 4 的 salary是不是全马standard的？？还是只有kl有2k而已？？

eelin_chin

原帖由 yein0014 于 21-6-2007 11:12 PM 发表
请问一下，big 4 的 salary是不是全马standard的？？还是只有kl有2k而已？？

KL和JB的一样，我听朋友讲perak的只给rm1900哦。。。

KPMG是最多的