耳塞-IEM(in ear monitor)分享区-分享区（二）正式开跑！！

twmmin

原帖由 chuanEX90 于 11-6-2008 04:13 PM 发表


L 字形的

我不喜欢L形的

chuanEX90

我喜欢L型的。

twmmin

原帖由 chuanEX90 于 11-6-2008 04:56 PM 发表
我喜欢L型的。

有什么model 不是L形的吗？

chuanEX90

没错的话，shure 的se sereis 都不是L型的。

twmmin

shure scl2 和 shure se210 那一个比较好？

chuanEX90

se210 会好一些。

twmmin

多少钱?

THJT

原帖由 chuanEX90 于 11-6-2008 05:30 PM 发表
se210 会好一些。

为什么？？？
我的SE530是直的。。。。

chuanEX90

因为我认为armature 的声音比较细腻。

chuanEX90

收到由Klipsch 寄来的耳塞套。

wackylim

原帖由 chuanEX90 于 11-6-2008 10:01 AM 发表


据我说知A829没line out ,不能接二奶叻。

二房是給接電腦用。

一次過買了好多個耳塞套~
請問哪裏有的郵購shure的耳塞套？

chuanEX90

发个Klipsch 的工程师对自己的产品的叙述。包含小小毒。别中毒啊，就当是老王卖瓜，自卖自夸。

Hi dtel,
Glad you enjoyed the demo!  Here is an explaination of all our IEmodels from an earlier post...

How manyarms do I need?
Here is thelowdown as best as I can explain it without you having the earphone models inyour ears....  Before I explain how many armatures you need. Let's goover some terms first:
IEM or IE =In Ear Monitor - this is usually a professional level earphone that iscustomized to fit your ear canals.  The performer will use these tominimize stage volumes, so they can work for more than 10 years without losingyour hearing.  With lower volumes it is easier for them to controlwhat they want to hear in the monitor mix thus saving theirhearing.  Now the performer can stay on pitch and keep good timing.
PM =Personal Monitors, earphones with armatures
Headphonesor HP = General description for all types





Earbuds =Similar to the Apple headphones with Moving coil transducers inside
EntryLevelPM's.......... use a simple balanced armature.  The challenge theengineer has primarily rests in the balance armature design itself, the damperand the nozzle design.  This is a very difficult task to make fullrange since the transducer will work well in the LF or the HF but not generallywideband.  Typically the Bass, Vocals or Drums suffer the most withthis design, sounding slightly harsh or not having any output that is audiblein that range.  In other words the vocal sounds throaty or scratchydepending on the model.  There is also limited SPL with this designdue to being a single arm design.  Even with these disadvantages itsounds better than any moving coil design that I have heard since the mass ofthe diaphragm is much less the HF is much more accurate than a standard earbudwith a moving coil.  Custom 1 has been optimized togive the best balance of LF and HF.  This design uses a KG332armature.  






Mid Level PM's............ useeither premium single armatures that are usually smaller or dual armatures withminimal or no EQ.  Each product has its limitations.  
ForKlipsch's IMAGE PM a premium armature is used which is aproprietary KG926 driver. The KG926 is ultra compact.  Less weightgenerally means more comfort because there is less force on the earcanal.  This model has "special sauce" whichI can't go into, due to its proprietary nature, but it is very full range withdelicate high's and smooth deep bass.  The sound is very accurate dueto its light weight diaphragm and the multiple levels of treatment to thedesign.  Generally speaking people will have a hard time complainingabout this design.  It is easy to use and sounds veryaccurate.  Vocals are silky smooth and drums have a nice snap tothem.  You can not believe your ears...a product this size soundingthis full!  The primary limitation is that it is small so you musthave a good air seal or you will loose bass.  The way we haveminimized this problem is by making the chassis micro small with a thinaluminum extruded body or chassis.  This small diameter allows thearmature to get closer to your eardrum than all of the others models out there.Precision machining is required to make this model, and the design iscomplicated to get correct due to its size.  The patent pendingeartip also insures a better seal since it is similar to the shape of your ear.
Another typeof mid level design is using dual armatures similar to our Custom 2.  Inthe Custom 2 design we have partnered with Sonion and have applied for a patenton this armature, so I can talk about some of the details.  The KG534driver is really two drivers i.e. two motors two armatures and two diaphragmsthat are tandem (back to back).  The benefit of this design is thatthe diaphragms pump air in opposing directions so any vibration modes areminimized.  Think of this similar to dual air bellows on yourfireplace with a single nozzle.  When you have dual diaphragms yourSPL increases by 3 dB and your distortion goes down because it is not workingas hard.  Part of our applied patent evolves around the low passacoustic filter that is built into one of the two armatures.  Thisgive Klipsch greater control over the EQ since we can have two pistons, oneoptimized for bass and one optimized for full range.  This babyrocks!  Musicians will love this product because it is portable yetvery efficient.  Your vocals will stand out in the mix as an IEMapplication.





HighLevel PM's...............usetwo or three armatures and a passive crossover.  Our Custom 3goes much further.  Not only does it have two different types ofdrivers and a passive crossover it also has a patent pending low pass acousticfilter.   The Custom 3 utilizes a Klipsch KG723 for the HF tweeterwhich is a premium armature.  This allows the vocals to be ultrasilky and very low in distortion.  The LF is implemented by a KG732armature for the LF woofer.  The Custom 3 has TWO low pass filtersthe armature has an internal LP filter plus an additional.... you guessed....patent pending LP filter on the outside which is optimized for a very lowcrossover point in such a small chassis without sacrificing sensitivity in thelow region of the response.  This bad boy has itall!  Looks! Comfort! And Concert Level Sound!  The passivecrossover has 5 components more than any other in its league.
With the two acoustic filters and a second ordercrossover, the LF has a 24 dB per octave rolled off at 1 kHz.  Why solow?   Everyone else seems to crossover above the vocal region but wewanted to eliminate Intermodulation Distortion (IMD) so we have removed thekick drum and bass tones from the tweeter so the diaphragm can concentrate onsilky highs without movement from the LF signal.  This also allows usto take advantage of the shape of the crossover for additional EQ in themidrange.  The vocals are so natural that this high end IEM won'tfatigue your ears like most designs can.  But my favorite part is theBASS.  I use to have a regional touring pro sound system for liveperformance applications.  I had eight 18 inch 1000 watt drivers justfor the subs, so I don't have to tell you how much I can appreciate good cleanbass.  Image hearing headphones flat BELOW the musicalbandwidth.  There is no limitation to the bass.  I justwish it would shake my pant legs like my pro system did.  I encourageeveryone to try this product before the buy any other.  You will findthat the money was well spent.
So what typeof HP do you need?  You will have to be the judge, but you will needto keep in mind that there is a reason why there is large range ofprices.   The number of arms does make a difference for the IEheadphone family.
Hopefullythis helps you understand what a large difference there is for our family ofproducts dtel...


Why don't you stick it in your ears!
Professor Thump
Crank it!

chuanEX90

原帖由 wackylim 于 11-6-2008 09:39 PM 发表


二房是給接電腦用。

一次過買了好多個耳塞套~
請問哪裏有的郵購shure的耳塞套？

不对，是送的， KL 的Pavilion 可以找到，或者KLCC 的apple shop，但是好像只有几款罢了。。。网上买或者在新加坡买咯。

wei_86

原帖由 twmmin 于 11-6-2008 05:30 PM 发表
多少钱?

你问的是SE210??我最近买了一个。。。新币S$269。。加一个amp。。。

最近的新加坡IT Show有卖。。。S$199。。。不错的耳机哦。。。

UE的和WESTONE的也不错啊，可以考虑。。。价钱比较便宜哦。。。

当初我试听了以后，选se210的原因是因为它的wayar够粗。。。认为会比较耐。。。

hoeywong

原帖由 frankling 于 6-6-2008 11:40 AM 发表
ok 周末再放上来

你又讲周末放上来
放我们747！！！

原帖由 wei_86 于 11-6-2008 11:33 PM 发表


你问的是SE210??我最近买了一个。。。新币S$269。。加一个amp。。。

最近的新加坡IT Show有卖。。。S$199。。。不错的耳机哦。。。

UE的和WESTONE的也不错啊，可以考虑。。。价钱比较便宜哦。。。

当初 ...

哇！新币199 = 马币478 （对不起，刚才神经病算错了）
澳洲这里要价AUD229=马币687++。。。

快点放上图片+感想！！！

[ 本帖最后由 hoeywong 于 11-6-2008 11:58 PM 编辑 ]

twmmin

shure se210 到底卖多少钱

twmmin

shure se210 到底卖多少钱

chuanEX90

原帖由 hoeywong 于 11-6-2008 11:51 PM 发表


你又讲周末放上来
放我们747！！！



哇！新币199 = 马币478 （对不起，刚才神经病算错了）
澳洲这里要价AUD229=马币687++。。。

快点放上图片+感想！！ ...

对啊，快快上啊。

chuanEX90

原帖由 twmmin 于 12-6-2008 06:29 PM 发表
shure se210 到底卖多少钱

Malaysia 的价位是RM6xx.

hayashi81

原帖由 twmmin 于 12-6-2008 06:29 PM 发表
shure se210 到底卖多少钱

两个星期前才买，那时的价位是£65