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最近的股灾将演变成大股灾,导致新一轮全球经济风暴

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发表于 5-8-2011 04:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
每国国家股市跌超过2%,马股才1.7%,还没到底
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:05 PM | 显示全部楼层
跌穿1000点才来讲股灾啦
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
坐定定沙发看戏。。。
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
:相信明天會更好....
在安慰自己....
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
对,马来西亚的跌幅还没到底,可以在等待下。慢慢来。。。
还有一句话 never catch a dropping knife with your hand.
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
坐定定沙发看戏。。。
如果我是你 发表于 5-8-2011 04:20 PM



   你已经看戏看很久了咯
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
真是股灾至少都要在马丽安娜海沟里面来来回回游几个月的,才一天就吓到laosai,真是应验了一句话,10个赌的10个输
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 楼主| 发表于 5-8-2011 04:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
楼上的好像股神。。。。
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发表于 5-8-2011 04:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
你已经看戏看很久了咯
流川枫11 发表于 5-8-2011 04:29 PM



      现在大势有变, 市场信心的问题, 需要谨慎小心, 如果道琼跌破11000点, 我打算回避一下。
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发表于 5-8-2011 05:15 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 谷成 于 5-8-2011 06:46 PM 编辑

如果今晚美股再大跌,怕要重演1929年的黑色星期五了。


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发表于 5-8-2011 05:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
跌吧,谁怕谁,反正我还没投资。。。
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发表于 6-8-2011 11:34 AM | 显示全部楼层
投资第一规则,只买赚钱,有盈利的公司.这个规则,现在还可以用吗?
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发表于 6-8-2011 11:44 AM | 显示全部楼层
是时候买进了?
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发表于 6-8-2011 12:06 PM | 显示全部楼层
投资第一规则,只买赚钱,有盈利的公司.这个规则,现在还可以用吗?
穷秀才 发表于 6-8-2011 11:34 AM


问题是经济风暴的来袭,我们能确保在赚钱的公司可以承受的到么

btw,,这里的人大多都是投机的
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发表于 6-8-2011 12:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复 18# agentdarwin


    前辈有何高见? 我的主力为大众,云顶,YTLLand 和GAB.
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发表于 6-8-2011 12:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
回复  agentdarwin


    前辈有何高见? 我的主力为大众,云顶,YTLLand 和GAB.
穷秀才 发表于 6-8-2011 12:10 PM



我是菜鸟而已,不宜给意见
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发表于 6-8-2011 02:39 PM | 显示全部楼层

标准普尔调降美国的信用等级为AA- PLUS

The United States lost its top-notch triple-A credit rating from Standard & Poor's Friday, in a dramatic reversal of fortune for the world's largest economy.


Michele Constantini | PhotoAlto | Getty Images




S&P cut the long-term U.S. credit rating by one notch to AA-plus on concerns about growing budget deficits.


"The downgrade reflects our opinion that the fiscal consolidation plan that Congress and the administration recently agreed to falls short of what, in our view, would be necessary to stabilize the government's medium-term debt dynamics," S&P said in a statement.


"More broadly, the downgrade reflects our view that the effectiveness, stability, and predictability of American policymaking and political institutions have weakened at a time of ongoing fiscal and economic challenges to a degree more than we envisioned when we assigned a negative outlook to the rating on April 18, 2011," the statement said.


The outlook on the new U.S. credit rating is negative, the S&P said in its statement, a sign that another downgrade is possible in the next 12 to 18 months.


On Aug. 2, President Barack Obama signed legislation designed to reduce the fiscal deficit by $2.1 trillion over 10 years. But that was well short of the $4 trillion in savings S&P had called for as a good "down payment" on fixing America's finances.


The political gridlock in Washington and the failure to seriously address U.S. long-term fiscal problems came against the backdrop of slowing U.S. economic growth and led to the worst week in the U.S. stock market in two years.


"I did not expect this to happen this soon. This is something they gave the criteria on and I guess they stuck to it," said George Goncalves, chief Treasury strategist for Nomura Americas. "I really thought they'd take the two-stage approach and see how further cuts would come along."


This came after a confusing day of reports: Standard & Poor's told the U.S. government early Friday afternoon that it was preparing to downgrade the U.S.'s triple-A credit rating but U.S. officials notified S&P that it had made a $2 trillion mathematical error.


The error was in the calculation of the U.S. debt-to-GDP ratio over time and was based on a misreading of what the correct congressional baseline was, government sources indicated. They said that once informed of the error S&P revised its rate-cut rationale to emphasize the political aspects of the country's debt situation.


"A judgment flawed by a $2 trillion error speaks for itself," a Treasury spokesperson said.


Throughout Friday, markets were rife with speculation that S&P, which has had a negative outlook on the U.S. since April 18, would downgrade the country’s credit from its current triple-A level and that it could come as early as Friday night.



Goncalves said the downgrade could hit market confidence.


U.S. Treasurys, once undisputedly seen as the safest investment in the world, are now rated lower than bonds issued by countries such as the UK, Germany, France or Canada.


On July 14, S&P put the government on a credit watch with negative implications, meaning there was at least a one in two chance the U.S.’s long-term debt would be downgraded within 90 days.


Earlier Friday an S&P spokesman declined to comment on any possible plans for a downgrade or statement.


On Tuesday, both Fitch and Moody's backed their triple-A rating on the U.S.—but with caveats.


Fitch warned that the U.S. rating "will remain under pressure for some time," while Moody's [MCO  32.88    -0.68  (-2.03%)
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went so far as to slap the U.S. with a negative outlook.

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发表于 6-8-2011 02:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
美国失去了拔尖三从周五标准普尔的信用评级,为世界上最大的的经济体的命运戏剧性的逆转。


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标准普尔调降一格美国长期信用评级AA +上不断增长的预算赤字的担忧。

“本次降级反映我们的意见,在财政整合计划,国会和政府最近同意向落在什么,在我们看来,将是需要稳定,政府的中期债务动态,”标准普尔说,在一份声明中。

“更广泛地说,降级反映了我们认为的有效性,稳定性,和美国的决策和政治体制的可预见性,在一个正在进行的财政和经济挑战在一定程度上更多的时间比我们当初的设想,当我们分配了一个负面的展望评级削弱2011年4月18日,“声明说。

美国新的信用评级展望为负面,标准普尔在其声明中说,一个标志,另一个降级可能在未来12至18个月。

8月2日,美国总统奥巴马签署了旨在减少财政赤字2.1万亿美元,超过10年的立法。但是,这是标准普尔称为一个很好的“首付”修复美国的财政$ 4万亿储蓄。

在华盛顿的政治僵局,并没有认真解决美国长期的财政问题对美国经济增长放缓的背景下,导致美国股市两年来最糟糕的一周。

“我不希望这种情况发生,这一声,这是他们给的标准的东西,我猜他们坚持说,”乔治贡萨尔维斯,野村美洲总库务策略。 “我真的以为他们会采取两阶段的方式,看看如何进一步削减会到来。”

这来到一个报告混乱的一天后:标准普尔表示,美国政府早星期五下午,这是准备降级美国的三倍,一个信用评级,但美国官员通知小号&P,它已经作出一个2万亿美元的数学错误。

随着时间的推移,美国债务占GDP的比例计算错误,是什么是正确的国会基线的误读,政府消息人士表示。他们说,一旦错误标准普尔修订其减息的理由,强调国家的债务状况政治方面。

“一个耗资2万亿美元的错误有缺陷的一个判决本身就说明,财政部的一位发言人说。”

整个周五,市场投机盛行,标准普尔,已自4月18日对美国的负面展望,将国家从目前三A级信用降级,它可以来早在周五晚上。



贡萨尔维斯说,降级的可能打击市场信心。

美国国债,一旦毫无疑问,作为世界上最安全的投资,现在都低于发行的债券,如英国,德国,法国或加拿大等国家。

7月14日,标准普尔信用手表放在政府的负面影响,这意味着至少有一两个机会,美国的长期债务将在90天之内降级。

星期五早些时候,标准普尔发言人拒绝对此发表评论降级或声明的任何可能的计划。

周二,惠誉和穆迪的支持上警告美国,但他们的三A评级。

惠誉警告说,美国评级“将在压力下保持一段时间”,而穆迪[MCO 32.88 -0.68(-2.03%)]竟然就打美国与负面展望。
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发表于 6-8-2011 07:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
美国失去了拔尖三从周五标准普尔的信用评级,为世界上最大的的经济体的命运戏剧性的逆转。


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matmatsui 发表于 6-8-2011 02:39 PM


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发表于 6-8-2011 09:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
可能性越来越高哦。。。
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