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野火

回复 739# D|No7787


    我比较喜欢Punggol的
http://www.hdb.gov.sg/hdbvsf/eampuadp.nsf/0/SA_BTO_201106/$file/PGmap.pdf

我比较喜欢靠近MRT的，这个靠近LRT，要考虑考虑。
这个旁边是SportsComplex。
我问女儿要不要住在游泳池旁边，这样常常可以去游泳，她想想后问我靠不靠近MahaBodhi，我说要坐校车了，她再想想后说还是想玩水时去就好了，不用去那里住
想到搬离Ubi的话，她就需要早早起床，就有点犹豫了。

HDB还会在8月推出SBF，我觉得这次会有几个SERS的组屋出售，包括Clementi，Commonwealth和TiongBahru（KimTian），我对TiongBahruMRT旁边的SERS比较有兴趣，不过SERS的屋子刚刚选完，可能要明年的SBF才会推出。

野火

回复 740# AhSengSg


    胜兄的便宜底楼，可以便宜便宜卖给我吗？

写意

回复 718# 野火

哇！哇！哇！哇！哇！哇！哇！哇！哇！
美到。。。。

AhSengSg

回复  AhSengSg


    胜兄的便宜底楼，可以便宜便宜卖给我吗？
野火 发表于 5-7-2011 10:17 AM

    好的。。。当我搬去新山就卖给你。。。

花沙尼

这个可能性很小。。
因为我还有一间 hdb   。。。除非把现在这两间都卖了。。
AhSengSg 发表于 29-6-2011 11:45 AM

真是失礼、失礼啊，胜叔。

野火

回复 744# AhSengSg

胜兄，当你搬去新山时，应该也是我搬回永平的时候了吧
还是买不成

野火

对KBW的英文Blog，觉得他只是在提供数据。
可是读了早报的华文报道，却觉得它又是那种一贯的作风，那种『给你们机会选，是你们Choosy，不要选！』的语气。
不过Omy没有完整报道，可能读完整篇报道不会有这种感觉。
但是标题『Who are the Successful Ones?』为什么会变成『半数首次购屋者抽中后弃权』，而且文章一开始这句废话『申购率越高的项目，成功被抽中选购组屋的首次购屋者比例就越低』根本没必要讲（英文原文没有这样写），一读就觉得这记者要针对首次购屋者（FirstTimer）。
司马昭之心:@

http://mndsingapore.wordpress.co ... he-successful-ones/

Last month, I shared with you the profile of the May BTO applicants. 14,000 applied but only 4,000 would be successful. Who are the successful ones? The May selection exercise is still ongoing, so we will only know the answers in a few months.

HDB has instead given me the results of the BTO exercises from January to March where the selections have almost been completed. I have organised the data into two tables to better present the analysis.

The first table shows the percentage of applicants being asked to select a flat, i.e. the chance of an applicant being selected. Balloting rules try to help applicants who have failed in earlier BTO launches by giving them additional chances. Every first timer has 2 or more chances of being selected. The breakdown is interesting:


    * First, when an application rate is about 2 (i.e. two applicants for one unit), almost all applicants will get a chance to select. This is because not all who are asked to select do so. Many will pass up the chance. For Jan BTO, practically all first-timers got to select a flat.  Even second-timers got an 84% chance to select.  However, as application rate increased to 5 or 8, the chances fell significantly, especially for second-timers. That is why we are ramping up BTO launches to reduce application rate, and hence raise the chances for our applicants.
    * Second, we load the balloting in favour of first-timers. For example, for Feb BTO, first-timers were 3 to 5 times more likely to be selected than second-timers.
    * Third, we also load the balloting in favour of those who had not been successful in earlier BTO launches. This improves their chances of being able to select a flat.

As many who had a chance to select did not go ahead, but let it pass, we need the second table below to complete the analysis. The figures refer to the percentages of applicants who did select a flat, as a proportion of those who had a chance to select.

While the first table is an outcome of our balloting rules, the second table reflects consumer choices. When asked to select, do applicants actually select? There is a range of outcomes. Applicants to choice BTO launches are more likely to say “yes”. Applicants who have been unsuccessful earlier are more likely to say “yes” too.

We are trying to offer larger BTO launches. This way, we hope to provide more choices and reduce the odds of repeated disappointment.

http://news.omy.sg/News/Local%2BNews/Story/OMYStory201107180406-260578.html

半数首次购屋者抽中后弃权

建屋发展局今年首三个月推出的预购组屋申购数据显示，申购率越高的项目，成功被抽中选购组屋的首次购屋者比例就越低。

但即使是被抽中，当中只有约一半以上（享有两次选购组屋机会的首次购屋者）的人最终选购屋子，其余许多人打退堂鼓，放弃购屋机会。

国家发展部长许文远昨天发表新博文分享更多有关选购预购组屋数据时说，这也就是为什么当局要加快推出预购组屋的步伐和规模，让购物者有更多单位供选择，以便降低申购率，提高申请者购得组屋的机会。

今年1月至3月间，建屋局总共推出了八个预购组屋（BTO）项目。其中3月份在裕廊西和盛港推出的两个项目（1527个单位），申购率超额八倍，也就是八人抢购一个单位时，共吸引了超过一万份申请。

不过，享有两次优先选购组屋机会的首次购屋者中，只有不到两成获抽中选购单位。

完整报道，请翻阅18.07.2011《联合早报》。

野火

再说这个标题很有问题
『半数首次购屋者抽中后弃权』。
英文原文根本没有用『半数』（Half）这种概括性的词。
我觉得这个记者根本不太明白什么是『首次购屋者』（FirstTimers），以为『首次购屋者』是有『2 Chances』的而已吧？
不然为什么有55%-77%有选屋子，却可以说成『半数首次购屋者抽中后弃权』？
这种水平，我不买早报的选择是对的

紅慧星馬沙

回复 747# 野火


    歸根到底都是人民的錯囉

koalabear

写意，野火，欣妈：
这个星期六要不要去笨珍吃红毛丹。
榴莲机会渺茫，掉得7788了。

koalabear

写意，野火，欣妈：
这个星期六要不要去笨珍吃红毛丹。
榴莲机会渺茫，掉得7788了。

野火

回复 751# koalabear

koalabear，谢谢你的邀请，可是小女这个星期六学校有活动，我老婆暂时不太适合长途坐车，而我也暂时不太适合丢下她们出游
真的想到笨珍一游的，期待下一次的机会

紅慧星馬沙

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AhSengSg

如果跟这个, 那就可能会有.
tckiat_5700 发表于 30-6-2011 09:25 PM

    我没跟得很清楚。。。真的会有吗？
我是看这里的。。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singapore_MRT#Expansion

AhSengSg

回复  AhSengSg

你拍的是LRT轨道的东边对吗？LRT轨道的西边还有一大片空地对吗？

你拍的其实是两块地，东边的已经被标去了，所以就快建ShowFlat，西边的会在下半年让发展商投标建Condo
http://www.h88.com.sg/article/43+land+sites+released+for+H2+2011/
http://www.ura.gov.sg/pr/graphics/2011/pr11-69a24.pdf

野火 发表于 30-6-2011 11:00 PM

    西边还有土地咩？

AhSengSg

回复  D|No7787



我比较喜欢靠近MRT的，这个靠近LRT，要考虑考虑。
这个旁边是SportsComplex。
我问女儿要不要住在游泳池旁边，这样常常可以去游泳，她想想后问我靠不靠近MahaBodhi，我说要坐校车了，她再想想后说还是想玩水时去就好了，不用去那里住
想到搬离Ubi的话，她就需要早早起床，就有点犹豫了。

野火 发表于 5-7-2011 10:15 AM

靠近 mrt 当然比靠近 lrt 好


你女儿几岁？有时候小孩子说的不可以拿来考量，因为孩子还太小

AhSengSg

天啊！！ ９０万的 HDB flat 在 Pasir Ris！！不靠近 MRT ，附近也没有 amenities
这是新加坡历史上最高的。。。   


Pasir Ris HDB flat offered at eye-popping price tag

The red-hot HDB market is showing no signs of cooling despite public housing affordability being a key issue in the recently concluded general elections, and the implementation of various cooling measures by the Singapore government since 2010.

Fresh from the Design, Build and Sell Scheme (DBSS) fiasco, where developer Sim Lian Group stirred controversy when it announced that the indicative price of its most expensive 5-room flat would cost $880,000, the Housing and Development Board (HDB) is under the spotlight again after an eye-popping ad listing was posted on local property website PropertyGuru.

The ad shows a 1,528 sq ft HDB executive flat at Block 780 Pasir Ris Street 71 with an asking price of $900,000.

Considering that it is a public housing project located in a non-prime area and with no facilities, the unit's asking price is well above the average transacted level in the area.

Caveat data shows that the average per sq ft pricing of similar properties transacted in  the area for 2011 is between $400 to $500 per sq ft.

The executive flat's asking price translates to $589.01 per sq ft, which is well above the market price.

The flat faces a park and is located just next to Tampines Expressway.

Amenities nearby include Meridian Junior College.

It is not even within walking distance to Pasir Ris MRT station and White Sands mall.

Flat is overpriced

When contacted, an industry leader said the flat was overpriced.

"The asking price of $900,000 is definitely way beyond the market price. It is certainly a one-off case which, if the agent is able to get, it will be a record price for Pasir Ris," said Roza Sure Bagus, managing director of Sure Bagus (Asia) Pte Ltd.

According to Roza, she sold a flat in Pasir Ris recently for $696,000, which is $96,000 above valuation.

"The $96,000 in above valuation is still okay, provided the house has a good view, high floor and good interior. Nevertheless, if they are buying at $96,000 above valuation, the buyer's taste in the décor may not be the same. They may renovate everything," said Roza.

She added that, in June, an executive flat in the area had transacted for $750,000.

"We thought it was a record price in Pasir Ris. Now, at $900,000, it is really ridiculous. We are likening the price to a private property. An executive condominium would not cost that much either. For a $900,000 HDB flat, it is way too high," said Roza.

However, she reckons there might still be a willing buyer.

"For a person who buys such flat, he might buy it for sentimental value. Perhaps, it has a breathtaking view which he may not be able to get elsewhere. The buyers are likely to be from the private property market who have already sold their properties or who were enbloc owners who made a huge profit. It is unlikely they will take any loan. They would buy this unit in cash, full settlement," said Roza.

Roza also believes that this is not a normal trend.

"In view of the cooling measures, this is a one-off case . This is not a normal trend. This is not a market price," said Roza.

AhSengSg

天啊！$147000 - 全新加坡 HDB 最高的 COV 在 Tampines；竟然有超过２５个买家愿意付!!


$100k-plus cash premiums offered for Tampines flatBy property_guru | Property Blog – Mon, Jul 18, 2011


Following our breaking story on the asking price of $900,000 for an executive apartment in Pasir Ris, PropertyGuru received an exclusive tip-off from a property agent representing Knight Frank.
The agent, who only wants to be identified as Ravin, said he sold an executive mansionette flat at Block 151 Tampines Street 12 in March this year for $772,500.
According to the valuation report, the flat had a market value of $625,000 in December last year.
It was sold above valuation at $147,500 in March this year.
"We were marketing this property over two Sundays and had about 50 plus buyers come for the viewing. Almost half were able to offer COV of more than $100,000," said Ravin.
According to Ravin, the profiles of the potential buyers were Singaporeans in their late 30s to late 50s.
About five were able to offer a COV of more than $125,000.
"These buyers had the cash as most had sold off their landed property, private apartments, or HDB flats with good profits. Most were business owners," said Ravin.
Record COV?
Despite the high COV the mansionette achieved, it will soon be overshadowed by the executive apartment in Pasir Ris should it be able to command the asking price of $900,000, which had shot up to $918,000 after the story broke.
Taking recent transactions as a benchmark valuation price in Pasir Ris, executive apartments in the area are about $600,000.
The new asking price of $918,000 will translate to a record COV of $318,000.
COVs unlikely to go down
Despite the cooling measures, experts say COVs are unlikely to go down.
"The average COV now is about $30,000 to about $40,000 (or) to $50,000 in better and prime locations. I believe that's because of the demand in the market, which comes from newlyweds as well as new PRs and new immigrants coming to Singapore. Although there's a lot of BTO coming up, COV unfortunately will still be going up in the near future," Mark Teo, senior group division director at ERA was reported as saying to Channel NewsAsia.
Others say the new Build-to-Order announcement will ease pressure from the resale market.
"COV prices are bottoming out at around $21,000 and many first-time buyers will still be priced out of the resale market for this reason. Hence, they will definitely find great relief in this bumper crop of BTO flats," said Adam Tan, PropNex corporate communications manager.
New BTO flats eases pressure from resale market
The new HDB flats wil comprise seven BTO projects spread across five estates, namely Sengkang, Tampines, Jurong West, Bukit Panjang and Yishun.
Most of the flats on offer are four and five-room units priced at $217,000 and $274,000 respectively.
According to HDB, it is on track to deliver 25,000 BTO flats in 2011.
The supply of new flats is expected to ease pressure from the resale market which could see their prices falling in the next six months.
This is partly due to economists' recent revision of weaker economic growth in the second quarter and a 25 percent drop in private property transactions in June.
The Resale  Price  Index (RPI) was 179.9 points in the second quarter, an increase of 2.9 percent over the first quarter.

tckiat_5700

天啊！$147000 - 全新加坡 HDB 最高的 COV 在 Tampines；竟然有超过２５个买家愿意付!!


$100k-plus ca ...
AhSengSg 发表于 19-7-2011 06:14 PM

广告伎俩来的，看看听听就好。之前也说Bishan的100k COV，现在无声无息。。。

欣妈

回复 751# koalabear

hello,koalabear你忘了我还在香港？下星期一才回来。