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Iriz 被评论员贬到一文不值。我认为还没那么糟啦。

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发表于 28-9-2014 11:14 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
180 发表于 27-9-2014 10:03 PM
以有没有屁股来论一辆车的价值很难让人接受,yaris 和 fiesta ecoboost 都是没屁屁的,但是那价位不是很多 ...

嗯,但这些车在其它国家还蛮吃香的。。每个国家的需求不一样,见人见智
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发表于 28-9-2014 11:19 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
丛林男孩 发表于 27-9-2014 10:17 PM
那你觉得我们是不是应该感恩呢?

我太喜欢车了,如果在新加坡以中等收入的我们可能就没办法拥有一辆自己的车了。。而且十年就要拿去刹车了。
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发表于 28-9-2014 11:47 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
丛林男孩 发表于 27-9-2014 10:16 PM
我的1liter可以跑14km,你有黄金右脚是吗?

我的1.5也是大概12km左右。100% urban drive,有塞车。
没有黄金右脚
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发表于 28-9-2014 09:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
jiunnchyuan 发表于 28-9-2014 10:44 AM
我只看特性,不看车牌子的。
符合我要求的,就是好车。
handling,尾力是我的对车的偏好。

什么车可以符合到你的要求呢?
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发表于 28-9-2014 11:24 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
丛林男孩 发表于 28-9-2014 09:45 PM
什么车可以符合到你的要求呢?

208,fiesta,iriz。
可是价钱。。。。。。
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发表于 6-10-2014 11:09 AM | 显示全部楼层
jiunnchyuan 发表于 28-9-2014 11:24 PM
208,fiesta,iriz。
可是价钱。。。。。。

原来iriz在你心中是可以跟欧美车媲美的哦…
那你还等什么?可以买iriz了。。。
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发表于 6-10-2014 11:11 AM | 显示全部楼层
zenx80 发表于 27-9-2014 03:24 PM
这样就说明马来西亚人的竞争力有限

应该说还有提升的空间…
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发表于 6-10-2014 01:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
丛林男孩 发表于 6-10-2014 11:09 AM
原来iriz在你心中是可以跟欧美车媲美的哦…
那你还等什么?可以买iriz了。。。

proton车本来是就是欧系设计向的。。。
作比较有何不可?

fiesta的ecoboost让人不舍。。。
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发表于 6-10-2014 03:47 PM | 显示全部楼层
source : http://www.livelifedrive.com/malaysia/news/view/204258/esc-three-letters-why-the-2014-proton-iriz-is-the-best-budget-car-for-you

ESC: Three Letters Why The 2014 Proton Iriz Is The Best Budget Car For You

        My last few editorials on Proton, specifically regarding the company's lack of accountability of its export business (Automotive Industry Review issue 002 - Growing Pains - Proton's Troubled Export Ambitions), responses to  comments from Proton's management questioning the patriotism of Malaysians, plus calls to extend protectionism for Proton were also very sketching of our national car maker.





        We are proud to say the Proton Iriz marks the turning point for Proton, and we truly hope that the momentum from this transformation will continue.

        The area that we are most impressed with is its safety. We have said it many times that ESC (electronic stability control), or as Proton calls it, VDC (Vehicle Dynamic Control), is a must-have item for any new car. Ideally, we dare even to go as far as saying that "If a car does not come with ESC, ignore it and move along to the next one."

        Safety advocate Euro NCAP also strongly recommends buyers to only choose cars with ESC and has since made ESC fitment a compulsory requirement to obtain the maximum Euro NCAP five-star rating. The same requirement has also been adopted by our region's ASEAN NCAP.
        All that changed when Proton introduced the Iriz today, which comes with ESC as a standard feature. For the first time in Malaysia's motoring history, ESC is available even on the cheapest grade of a budget car's model line-up. For less than RM43,000, you can now buy a car whose safety credentials are recognised by all the world's leading advocates in vehicle safety. Prior to this, the RM59,888 Kia Picanto is the cheapest car that you could buy that is equipped with ESC.

       

        ESC prevents a car from skidding by automatically applying small amounts of braking force on any of the individual wheels - something which a human driver cannot do, to regain stability and prevent a skid. Like all safety features, ESC merely compensates for shortfalls in human ability. It is bounded by the laws of physics and is no substitute for careful driving.

       

        The governments of Australia, Canada, European Union and USA have made ESC a compulsory feature in all new cars on sale, including light commercial vehicles. According to ESC supplier Bosch, as of 2012, 48 per cent of all cars sold worldwide are now fitted with ESC.
       

        ESC is a just generic name. Different car makers have developed their own ESC solutions and patented the technology under their own marketing acronym. For example, Honda calls its ESC as VSA (Vehicle Stability Assist) while Toyota calls theirs VSC (Vehicle Stability Control).

        ASEAN NCAP's secretary general Mr. Khairil Anwar once told LiveLifeDrive.com, "Prevention is better than cure. That is our motto. But whatever the case, passive safety must be good enough. That is why I always say two airbags are good enough for protection, after that we should utilise our energy for active safety, for prevention. Those are the only two (minimum) things I want in safety - two airbags and ESC."

        In the past, we have often questioned Perodua's decision of not offering ESC in its models. At the very least, we think it should be available in the highest variant.

        But Perodua prefers to load up its highest range models with things like rear multimedia system, leather seats and body kits, rather than equipping its cars with an inexpensive life-saving feature.

        Ironically, most of the accessories fitted are actually more expensive than ESC, which is already a very mature technology and uses the same hardware as anti-lock braking system (ABS). Thus there is actually very little additional cost in equipping a car with ESC. Limiting ESC's availability only to the higher range variants is driven more by marketing, a need to push customers towards purchasing a more expensive variant, than anything else.

        Unlike Perodua, Proton operates on a much higher cost structure as it does not have the same scale as Perodua, and it needs to independently develop the entire car from the ground up. As such, it is much more challenging for Proton to offer ESC as a standard feature than it is for Perodua. So kudos to Proton for taking the more challenging path.   
        As ESC is a standard feature, the Proton Iriz's five-star ASEAN NCAP rating is applicable across the entire Iriz model range. ESC is a compulsory feature to obtain the maximum five stars.
        So if you are looking for a car and don't wish to spend a lot on it, we highly recommend the Proton Iriz.
        As repeated by the FIA, ESC is like seat belts. If the other car that you are considering doesn't have it, then don't even bother wasting your time on it.




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发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
proton的引擎~~怕怕
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
proton的引擎~~怕怕
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:07 PM | 显示全部楼层
kenny_YSW 发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM
proton的引擎~~怕怕

引擎就是一部车的心脏,proton savvy就是死在这里。
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
kenny_YSW 发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM
proton的引擎~~怕怕

别勉强,买你有信心的车就对了
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
kenny_YSW 发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM
proton的引擎~~怕怕

campro 不会怎样的啦,只是漏油和吃油,比起Tiara那颗还可以用。。
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
iStandAlone 发表于 26-9-2014 11:17 PM
Proton的下個目標應該是研發一個拿獎的引擎。打敗歐洲,日本,韓國車

等多20年吧,呵呵呵
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发表于 6-10-2014 04:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
仓底货 发表于 6-10-2014 04:24 PM
campro 不会怎样的啦,只是漏油和吃油,比起Tiara那颗还可以用。。

我一个JB的朋友买了一辆persona 2年直接换掉mitshubishi引擎 新车回厂回到怕........漏引擎油 之后没漏了可是引擎有还是会少 然后自动牙箱进当顿一下 有时候P拉去D或R 没反应 回厂修过后2-3个月又来 +上门锁啊窗啊引擎怪声 #^!&#&%$!#%#  除了冷起其他都搞到他头晕 3个月前换掉1.6 mitshubishi的引擎(我不懂那一款)到现在没事了= =|||

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发表于 6-10-2014 09:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
kenny_YSW 发表于 6-10-2014 04:01 PM
proton的引擎~~怕怕

proton的QC更怕怕
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发表于 6-10-2014 11:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
Iriz 可能会有很不错的订单量。。。 当Proton里面的高层很高兴庆祝功绩后才会发现,其实Persona和Saga的订单少了。 经过细心算后才发现,他妈的,原来Iriz的订购量刚刚好是Persona和Saga失去的订购量,PeroduaMyvi还是一样那么能卖。。。
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