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员工耍花样!怎样可以炒他而不用赔3个月薪水

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 楼主| 发表于 10-3-2014 03:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
Seth1111 发表于 10-3-2014 02:50 PM
你们上班要打卡吗? 还是要check in system 。。。。 证明有没有上班。。。

不需要的,他是在店铺上班的
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 楼主| 发表于 10-3-2014 03:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
junkai 发表于 10-3-2014 03:50 PM
給他更無聊更低級的工作啊。

關他在禁閉室也是一種虐待

这些有想过,不过家人不同意
RM1700人工只是用来打扫站门口他会更高兴
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发表于 10-3-2014 03:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
huanying21 发表于 10-3-2014 03:55 PM
这些有想过,不过家人不同意
RM1700人工只是用来打扫站门口他会更高兴

扣薪水咯,尤其便宜卖货的事,损失全部算他头上……

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发表于 10-3-2014 04:01 PM | 显示全部楼层
直接请他吃sotong goreng

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发表于 10-3-2014 05:04 PM | 显示全部楼层
楼主,给他warning letter 的同时要求他写回信告知犯错原因和要采取的更改行动。。然后当他没有改或变本加厉时,给他第二封warning letter。。当你给到第三封时,可以叫他走人
虽然这过程会很麻烦(warning letter + 他的回信)但这绝对是你公司的一个保障。。他的薪水低于2千,labour law 会比较保护,所以一定要小心处理

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发表于 10-3-2014 05:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
楼主可以口头跟他沟通
口头warning也是可以。
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发表于 10-3-2014 06:26 PM | 显示全部楼层
本来就不必陪三个月的啦。。。除非你给他 offer letter 的时候乱乱写。。

其他不说。。。先说一些细则吧。。

他的薪水是  ??
他有其他津贴 ??
他的 offer letter 内容是 ??
尽量提供哪些资料。。方便下定论。。

一般上如果跟着劳工法令。。做工不满一年的。。你大可以直接炒他。。Termination of employment 最多也是陪他 10天薪水而已。。哪来三个月了

自己参考 Part II
PART II - CONTRACTS OF SERVICE

6. Saving of existing contracts

Every agreement lawfully entered into between an employer and an employee before the coming into force of this Act shall if it is still legally binding upon the parties continue in force for such period as may be specified in the agreement and the parties thereto shall be subject to, and shall be entitled to the benefits of, this Act.

7. More favourable conditions of service under the Act to prevail

Subject to section 7A, any term or condition of a contract of service or of an agreement, whether such contract or agreement was entered into before or after the coming into force of this Act, which provides a term or condition of service which is less favourable to an employee than a term of condition of service prescribed by this Act or any regulations, order or other subsidiary legislation whatsoever made thereunder shall be void and of no effect to that extent and the more favourable provisions of this Act or any regulations, order or other subsidiary legislation whatsoever made thereunder shall be substituted therefor.

7A. Validity of any term or condition of service which is more favourable

Subject to any express prohibition under this Act or any regulations, order or other subsidiary legislation whatsoever made thereunder, nothing in section 7 shall be construed as preventing an employer and an employee from agreeing to any term or condition of service under which an employee is employed, or shall render invalid any term or condition of service stipulated in any collective agreement or in any award of the Industrial Court, which is more favourable to the employee than the provisions of this Act or any regulations, order, or other subsidiary legislation whatsoever made thereunder.

7B. Removal of doubt in respect of matters not provided for by or under this Act

For the removal of doubt it is hereby declared that if no provision is made in respect of any matter under this Act or any subsidiary legislation made thereunder, or if no regulations, order or other subsidiary legislation has been made on any matter in respect of which regulations, or an order or other subsidiary legislation may be made under this Act, it shall not be construed as preventing such matter from being provided for in a contract of service, or from being negotiated upon between an employer and an employee.

8. Contracts of service not to restrict rights of employees to join, participate in or organize trade unions

Nothing in any contract of service shall in any manner restrict the right of any employee who is a party to such contract --

    (a) to join a registered trade union;
    (b) to participate in the activities of a registered trade union, whether as an officer of such union or otherwise; or
    (c) to associate with any other persons for the purpose of organising a trade union in accordance with the Trade Unions Act 1959.

9. (Repealed).

10. Contracts to be in writing and to include provision for termination

(1) A contract of service for a specified period of time exceeding one month or for the performance of a specified piece of work, where the time reasonably required for the completion of the work exceeds or may exceed one month, shall be in writing.

(2) In every written contract of service a clause shall be included setting out the manner in which such contract may be terminated by either party in accordance with this Part.

11. Provision as to termination of contracts

(1) A contract of service for a specified period of time or for the performance of a specified piece of work shall, unless otherwise terminated in accordance with this Part, terminate when the period of time for which such contract was made has expired or when the piece of work specified in such contract has been completed.

(2) A contract of service for an unspecified period of time shall continue in force until terminated in accordance with this Part.

12. Notice of termination of contract

(1) Either party to a contract of service may at any time give to the other party notice of his intention to terminate such contract of service.

(2) The length of such notice shall be the same for both employer and employee and shall be determined by a provision made in writing for such notice in the terms of the contract of service, or, in the absence of such provision in writing, shall not be less than --

    (a) four weeks' notice if the employee has been so employed for less than two years on the date on which the notice is given;
    (b) six weeks' notice if he has been so employed for two years or more but less than five years on such date;
    (c) eight weeks' notice if he has been so employed for five years or more on such date:

Provided that this section shall not be taken to prevent either party from waiving his right to a notice under this subsection.

(3) Notwithstanding anything contained in subsection (2), where the termination of service of the employee is attributable wholly or mainly to the fact that--

    (a) the employer has ceased, or intends to cease to carry on the business for the purposes of which the employee was employed;
    (b) the employer has ceased or intends to cease to carry on the business in the place at which the employee was contracted to work;
    (c) the requirements of that business for the employee to carry out work of a particular kind have ceased or diminished or are expected to cease or diminish;
    (d) the requirements of that business for the employee to carry out work of a particular kind in the place at which he was contracted to work have ceased or diminished or are expected to cease or diminish;
    (e) the employee has refused to accept his transfer to any other place of employment, unless his contract of service requires him to accept such transfer; or
    (f) a change has occurred in the ownership of the business for the purpose of which an employee is employed or of a part of such business, regardless of whether the change occurs by virtue of a sale or other disposition or by operation of law,

the employee shall be entitled to, and the employer shall give to the employee, notice of termination of service, and the length of such notice shall be not less than that provided under subsection (2) (a), (b) or (c), as the case may be, regardless of anything to the contrary contained in the contract of service.

(4) Such notice shall be written and may be given at any time, and the day on which the notice is given shall be included in the period of the notice.

13. Termination of contract without notice

(1) Either party to a contract of service may terminate such contract of service without notice or, if notice has already been given in accordance with section 12, without waiting for the expiry of that notice, by paying to the other party an indemnity of a sum equal to the amount of wages which would have accrued to the employee during the term of such notice or during the unexpired term of such notice.

(2) Either party to a contract of service may terminate such contract of service without notice in the event of any wilful breach by the other party of a condition of the contract of service.

14. Termination of contract tor special reasons

(1) An employer may, on the grounds of misconduct inconsistent with the fulfilment of the express or implied conditions of his service, after due inquiry --

    (a) dismiss without notice the employee;
    (b) downgrade the employee; or
    (c) impose any other lesser punishment as he deems just and fit, and where a punishment of suspension without wages is imposed, it shall not exceed a period of two weeks.

(2) For the purposes of an inquiry under subsection (1), the employer may suspend the employee from work for a period not exceeding two weeks but shall pay him not less than half his wages for such period:

Provided that if inquiry does not disclose any misconduct on the part of the employee the employer shall forthwith restore to the employee the full amount of wages so withheld.

(3) An employee may terminate his contract of service with his employer without notice where he or his dependants are immediately threatened by danger to the person by violence or disease such as such employee did not by his contract of service undertake to run.

15. When contract is deemed to be broken by employer and employee

(1) An employer shall be deemed to have broken his contract of service with the employee if he fails to pay wages in accordance with Part III.

(2) An employee shall be deemed to have broken his contract of service with the employer if he has been continuously absent from work for more than two consecutive working days without prior leave from his employer, unless he has a reasonable excuse for such absence and has informed or attempted to inform his employer of such excuse prior to or at the earliest opportunity during such absence.

16. Employees on estates to be provided with minimum number of days' work in each month

(1) Where an employee is employed in any agricultural undertaking on an estate on a contract of service under which he earns wages calculated by reference to the number of days' work performed in each month of his service, his employer shall be bound either to provide him with work suitable to his capacity on not less than twenty-four days in each month during the whole of which he is so employed, or if the employer is unable or fails to provide work on twenty-four days in each month whereon the employee is willing and fit to work, the employer shall nevertheless be bound to pay to the employee in respect of each of such days wages at the same rate as if such employee had performed a day's work;

Provided that any dispute as to whether an employee was willing or fit to work shall be referred to the Director General for his decision:

Provided further that in computing twenty-four days for the purposes of this subsection account shall not be taken of more than six days in any week.

(2) A contract of service shall be deemed to be broken by an employer if he fails to provide work or pay wages in accordance with subsection (1).

17. (Omitted).

17A. Apprenticeship contracts excluded from sections 10 to 16

Sections 10 to 16 shall not apply to apprenticeship contracts which are in a form approved by and of which a copy has been filed with the Director General.

本帖最后由 披狼皮de羊 于 10-3-2014 06:31 PM 编辑

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 楼主| 发表于 10-3-2014 07:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
披狼皮de羊 发表于 10-3-2014 06:26 PM
本来就不必陪三个月的啦。。。除非你给他 offer letter 的时候乱乱写。。

其他不说。。。先说一些细则吧 ...

没有offer letter哦~薪水RM1700(还没包commission进去)没有津贴,工作快8个月了,给薪水没有给薪水单的,不用打卡的

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发表于 11-3-2014 07:18 AM | 显示全部楼层
huanying21 发表于 10-3-2014 07:10 PM
没有offer letter哦~薪水RM1700(还没包commission进去)没有津贴,工作快8个月了,给薪水没有给薪水单的 ...

这个的有点麻烦 =.=

8个月。。要炒就快点了。最多也是陪他一个月而已。。。过了一年你更麻烦。。

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发表于 11-3-2014 07:19 AM | 显示全部楼层
venessa0307 发表于 10-3-2014 05:04 PM
楼主,给他warning letter 的同时要求他写回信告知犯错原因和要采取的更改行动。。然后当他没有改或变本加厉 ...

是咯。。少过2K 很头疼一下的。。



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发表于 12-3-2014 09:27 AM | 显示全部楼层
huanying21 发表于 10-3-2014 03:55 PM
这些有想过,不过家人不同意
RM1700人工只是用来打扫站门口他会更高兴

打掃的時候給他辭職信咯。至少那幾個月他不能去客戶那裡搞破壞
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发表于 12-3-2014 11:09 AM | 显示全部楼层
huanying21 发表于 10-3-2014 10:41 AM
没有,当初他是我老爸的朋友,随便几句就进来了,什么鬼letter都不用
他做半年了,我是听别人说老板如 ...

Talk with your dad before doing anything... Else later he complain around... It will be your dad who scold you...
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发表于 12-3-2014 11:29 AM | 显示全部楼层
不好意思的話叫老爸出來說啦。
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发表于 12-3-2014 02:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果找到他故意开错单的证据(如2张离谱的bill),可以马上叫他走。一点都不必赔。就算他做了10年也没关系。
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发表于 18-3-2014 10:40 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
如果没有实据千万不要给强力的建议。。

我上司因为不满。。故意把一位员工放入别的部门。。员工很拒绝。。结果上司故意刁难马上连开三封警告信给她要她离职。。

重点来了。。上司被劳工部审查。。

结轮。。一次过三封警告信是不成立的。。警告信需要双方承认才成立。。不一定公司认同就算成立。。这位员工得到合理赔偿。。

一年前我公司的案例。。

还有,劳工部说,不一定有聘请书才算正式员工。。只要有证据就可以了。。就算没薪水单。。有其他强烈证据证明这员工在这里上班。。就可以了。。
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