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发表于 7-11-2009 12:42 AM
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刚才你提到瑞士
刚好看到这个
http://www.sc.com.my/main.asp?pageid=700&menuid=844&newsid=&linkid=&type=
Swisscash Internet Investment Scam: Frequently Asked Questions
1) | What is the Swisscash scheme about? | | Swisscash is an internet based investment scam whichclaimed to have invested in a range of investments such as equities,commodities and foreign exchange. Swisscash and Swiss Mutual Fund hadbeen soliciting investments from investors around the world, includingthe Malaysian public, through the internet, offering returns of up to300% within 15 months of investment. However, based on our enquiriesand investigations, this scheme is an illegal operation which has beenunable to provide these returns to investors. The reason why the schemeis illegal is that the operators of this scheme have engaged in fundmanagement and investment advice without any licence from the SC. | | | 2) | What actions have Securities CommissionMalaysia (SC) and other authorities taken to stop the Swisscashprogramme from operating? | | The SC had blocked 4 websites related to Swisscash namely www.swisscash.net, www.swisscash.biz, www.swissmutualfund.biz, and www.swisscashguide.com.
The SC had on 21 June 2007 obtained a worldwide Mareva injunctionagainst the operators of the Swisscash internet investment scheme,preventing them from disposing their assets in and outside of Malaysia.
The Mareva order restrains and prohibits the defendants from:
- carrying on the business of Swisscash,
- targeting, soliciting and collecting funds from the public forinvestments in Swisscash or any other internet investment scheme,
- hosting or operating the Swisscash websites or operating anyother such websites which solicit investments for Swisscash or anyother internet investment scheme and
- removing from Malaysia any of their assets which are in Malaysia
The Mareva injunction also requires the defendants to discloseinformation pertaining to all their assets in and outside Malaysia, thecompanies they have incorporated and the bank accounts they operate.
The SC has taken action against 3 individuals, namely Albert Lee KeeSien (Albert), Kelvin Choo Mun Hoe (Kelvin) and Amir Bin Hassan (Amir)as well as 3 companies namely Dynamic Revolution Sdn Bhd, Swiss MutualFund (1948) S.A., SMF International Limited and SMF (1948)International Limited. We believe that these individuals mentioned arethe operators of the scheme in Malaysia.
On 25 September 2008, SC obtained judgment against Albert, Kelvinand their companies in the amount of USD83 million and such furtheramounts as may be traced for payment. The SC, with the help of otherregulators and enforcement agencies has frozen the bank accounts of thedefendants in various other jurisdictions. The SC is now working withoverseas regulators and enforcement agencies to repatriate these fundsback to Malaysia.
| | | 3) | Have any monies been recovered against the perpetrators of the scheme? | | Currently some of the monies involved in the scam havebeen frozen and is in a stakeholder's account in Malaysia. The rest ofthe defendants' monies are currently located in various foreign bankaccounts and the SC is actively working with the relevant authoritiesin those countries to have those monies brought back to Malaysia. | | | 4) | Are any of the monies belonging to the defendants held by the SC? | | No, the SC is not holding any of the monies belongingto the investors. Monies in Malaysia are currently being held by astakeholder. The rest of the monies are in foreign bank accounts. | | | 5) | Where are all the overseas monies currently being held? | | The monies that the SC is aware of and have traced arein bank accounts in Singapore, Isle of Man, Jersey, Switzerland andAustralia. | | | 6) | When will the SC be able to get the monies from abroad so that I can get my money back? | | The money involved in this scam is subject to several courtproceedings, not all of which have been concluded. Moreover, the moneyinvolved in the scam is located in various bank accounts of thedefendants who were sued by the SC. Some of these bank accounts are incountries other than Malaysia and would involve the regulatoryauthorities and local laws of these jurisdictions. As such, the processof repatriation of the monies to Malaysia will take time.
| | | 7) | What are the efforts that are being taken by the SC to secure the monies abroad? | | The SC is currently working with overseas regulatorsand enforcement agencies to repatriate these funds back to Malaysia. Asdifferent jurisdictions have different laws governing the monies frozenin their jurisdictions, the repatriation of these monies would requireus to follow various local laws and procedures. Some jurisdictions haveinitiated action to forfeit the monies in their jurisdiction. Forexample Australia has initiated action under its Proceeds of Crime Act2002 and if the Australian government's action is successful, themonies in Australia will be forfeited. | | | 8) | How will the SC know who is eligible to make claims for the money which they lost in this scheme? | | Currently the SC is collating a list of the people whohave suffered loss as a result of the scheme. This is based on thecomplaints which we have received up to now from the affected membersof the public. Additionally, we plan to place advertisements in variousnewspapers calling for claims to be made against the sums of moneywhich are recovered. | | | 9) | If I had previously submitted a complaint andprovided supporting documents, will I need to resubmit the informationagain after the SC places the advertisements calling for claims to bemade? | | If you have previously made a complaint to our Investor Affairs andComplaints department and have submitted supporting documents, you willnot need to do so again unless you have any additional information ordocumentary evidence supporting your claim.
| | | 10) | Who is eligible to be compensated from the money which the SC recovers? | | We will submit a criteria to the court for itsendorsement before any payment is made. The criteria will include thefollowing: Eligible persons would be those who have sufficient proof oftheir principal investment and who have not been involved in the scamas recruiters and upliners. Where profits have been made from theirinitial investments, such profits will be deducted from the claim sum.Claimants would have to show documentary proof of their investments inthe scheme. Additionally, there will be other criteria such as whetherthey invested in the scam despite the warnings by the authorities. | | | 11) | Who will decide on whether I get my money back? | | The criteria for eligibility as mentioned above will be submitted to the court for its approval. |
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发表于 7-11-2009 11:03 AM
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Mscbw_pin ,
看到你发放这篇文章后,我觉得非常可笑又可怒。。。
你知不知道什么是SWISSCASH?
它们的操作模式是如何运作? 可怒!你既然拿它来跟Forex Trading 作对称,请你先探讨与研究两者的性质与功能,。。。可笑!你的知识,常识与智慧不如一般,没做好功课也没研究一番你就随便Post,看到瑞士国家就想到SwissCash,那看到日本你想到AV吗?那看到大马你想到什么?
江百虎,
你也真令我失望之极,亏你还是佳礼资深者及Forex Trader,既然引用SC来说Forex
Trading,两者都不同性质及不同投资方式。希望你也能回去研究一下,请不要在此丢人现眼。 |
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发表于 7-11-2009 11:05 AM
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向各位提醒,这间公司目前是非法经营的, 还没有获得瑞士官方的Banking Licence. 拿出HSBC的账单无法证明什么的,反而有误导性,以上回帖有些人还以为是HSBC管辖的基金。可以说说为什么要选Dukascopy?你们佣金是如何计算的等等。还有你们和Dukascopy是Introducing Broker 的关系?
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发表于 7-11-2009 11:43 AM
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我总觉得你在这边没完没了的,提醒你一下,这里是论坛,是提供意见交流的地方,请不要人身攻击,而且你在这里招徕生意已经是一个错误了,被人讲,应该要自知之明才对 |
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哦,Quantum Group of Funds是锁螺丝的哦(我网上找到的)。。。对吗?
你们是他的group哦,好厉害哦。。。 |
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原帖由 江百虎 于 7-11-2009 02:28 PM 发表 
那就请您正确明确的在这里证明给大家看您的集团是不是真的那么有本事每个月都可以 100% 的确定可以保证有 20% 的回酬啊。。。
不能保证才没有那么空闲单独和您约出来见面详细了解咧。。。根本就是在浪费别人的 ...
非常好,总算等到你的挑战了。现在我可让你选择您可自带自己的律师拟写的文件让我签署或者你自拟一份文件,大家一起去Commission Of Oath签署。内容你可大概说明“ 如果开设DUKASCOPY户口后,在限期两个月内,如果我们不能够每月保证100% 赚取你的10%利润给您(另外10%是本组织的佣金),我私人将会每月赔回10%利润给您,保证本金一样分毫不损,2个月后关闭户口。” 文件将在48小时内签署。。此文件将由国家法律生效及保障您的利益,对您毫无损失。
现在,我已拿出我的诚意和正确保证及信用,等你的答复。。。希望你不会退缩。
[ 本帖最后由 jason_fxonline 于 8-11-2009 09:48 AM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 8-11-2009 01:51 PM
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可以说说为什么要选Dukascopy?
选择DUKASCOPY, 因为它是在瑞士,一个拥有瑞士国家金融机构管制及符合国家金融政策,ARIF( http://www.arif.ch/en/membres.htm#letter_d ),保护投资者的权益的一家FOREXBroker...不像一些在(USA)美国或(CYPRUS)塞浦路斯的Forex Broker 都没拿到国家金融机构认证及认可.还有些Forex Broker拿了其他小国的认证,总公司却在另个国家,公司的银行却又在另一国家进出.这类行Broker 随时随地可倒闭兼失踪,投资者也都无法追讨他们的存款及诉讼他国政府.一个拥有在全世界金融发达的瑞士国家,正符合我组织提供优质服务的保障.
你们和Dukascopy是Introducing Broker 的关系?
不是,我们组织只是提供替客户投资赚取利润服务,DUKASCOPY是提供优质外汇系统平台服务,让我们有信心和安心投资.
你们佣金是如何计算
我们组织会每月从客户的户口中赚取20%的利润,抽取10%做为佣金
[ 本帖最后由 jason_fxonline 于 8-11-2009 01:59 PM 编辑 ] |
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原帖由 SuperBaka 于 3-11-2009 12:28 AM 发表 
哇。。。很不错的投资嘛。。但是看起来有点难以相信。。。一下就有赚钱。。看来如果加入了我就不用TRADE啦。。。每个月都有几万块收入。。真瞎。。
江啊,你不用等10000K啦。。。叫人烧给你就有罗。。反正你在 ...
分身杀法? |
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外匯騙案8個月仍捉不到人
受騙者疑警涉包庇
郭庭愷于今年4月25日針對有關案件召開記者會,《中國報》以大篇幅報導。
(檳城10日訊)今年3月發生的一宗外匯交易欺騙案后驚動武吉阿曼警方,調查官更揚言要在一個月內捉人,但8個月后仍無進展,受騙在者灰心之下只好當起“偵探”,更發現詐騙集團正籌備新基地!
20多名自稱受害者的公眾于今年3月份向警方舉報一家本地公司,指遭騙錢,總數約65萬令吉,並在浮羅池滑區州議員郭庭愷陪同下于4月25日召開記者會。
受騙者的代表李氏(26歲)于昨晚在郭庭愷陪同下,再次召開記者會,他非常不滿警方的態度,更懷疑警界內發生“無間道”事件。
李氏說,該詐騙集團是一家外匯交易公司,對方以高佣金誘騙公眾投資,使用網站買賣美元、歐元、日元及英鎊來賺錢,但據他所了解,多數投資者都血本無歸。
他說,這宗案件驚動武吉阿曼警方,查案官也兩次親自到檳城向受騙者錄取口供,還說很多警員也中招,更揚言要在1個月內捉人,但8個月已過去了卻毫無進展。
他說,該公司原本坐落浮羅池滑區,但受騙者報案后,該公司也于4月1日搬離原址。不久后他追蹤到該公司的新址,便通知警方以進行突檢。
籌備新基地
“與警方約定時間后,我早半小時趕到,卻看到那公司的人一個個走出來,離開現場,警員才在他們離開后10分鐘才趕到。”
警方的行為讓他起疑,他說,在初次報案時,他已發現警員似乎站在對方那一邊,還勸他與該公司負責人私下解決。
這8個月來,李氏對警方感到灰心而當起“偵探”追蹤該公司的動向,他最近發現該公司正籌備新基地,他擔心會有更多人受騙。
交錢瞬間就已受騙
李氏掌握了當中5名主腦的照片。
李氏認為,當他將3萬令吉交出那一刻, 便開始受騙了,接下來的半年操作,只是該公司精心策劃的數次遊戲。
他說,他在該公司內看到約50名與他一樣的“操作員”,但他們被分成數組,組與組之前不得交流或講話。
“我們通過網站登入后就會看到一個交流平台,我們就是根據平台上的外匯價格波動而進行買賣。”
他說,數次眼看肯定賺錢時,互聯網就會斷線,讓買責失敗。負責人告訴他們各種原因,包括海底電纜爆炸等等。這令他起疑。
他說,或許他當初看到的平台並非市場上真正的交易版,那些波動的外匯價格只不過是該公司精心策劃的數次遊戲。
22歲美女是主腦之一
22歲美女竟然是主腦之一!
在李氏掌握的照片中,其中一名被他聲稱為主腦的女子竟然是年僅22歲的美女,他說對方是另一名主腦的女友。
“她是我弟弟的朋友,也算是熟人,我就是相信了她才投資3萬多令吉,當中一些是家庭成員的錢。”
李氏說,當時他正失業,翻閱報章找工時無意間看到該公司的招聘廣告而前往應徵,也在該名女子的游說下投資。
“他們說通過網站處理一宗買賣就可得到80令吉佣金,半夜睡不著覺時也可以賺錢。”
郭庭愷解釋,李氏應徵操作員,新手當然沒有客戶,無法抽佣,所以李氏就被游說投資,同時當客戶和操作員,豈知卻越虧越多。
邀主腦出席記招沒現身
郭庭愷說,該公司主腦曾上門向他解釋,他也邀請對方出席記者會以接受記者訪問,對方最終沒現身。
“我在4月份召開記者會前,曾通過電話聯絡那些負責人,他們也上門向我解釋,出示了一些文件指不是每個人都虧錢,但我不能接受他們的解釋。”
他要求對方出席4月25日的記者會,當面與李氏及其他不滿者對質,並接受記者的採訪,但對方最終沒現身。
“過后我曾嘗試通過同樣的電話號碼聯絡他們,但他們都已換了號碼。”
李氏拍主腦照險衝突
為了追查這案件,李氏在這8個月來只做散工,週二下午他終與該公司其中一名主腦正面“衝突”。
“我在平安路看到他們的車,相信他們的公司新址就在那邊。過后我看到其中一名主腦現身,就偷拍他的照片打算交給警方,卻被他看見了。”
他說,對方向他走來,還問他:“拍夠了沒有?還要拍嗎?”並拿出手機反拍他,態度囂張。
李氏說,主腦共有7人,年齡介于22歲至40歲,他目前已掌握了當中5人的照片。
郭庭愷說,李氏做了很多警方應該做的工作,他認為警方可以做得比李氏還要好。他促請警方盡力調查,以免更多人受害。
郭庭愷:國行證實
Plauski為無牌代理
國家銀行已證實該公司是無牌代理,武吉阿曼警方卻還在等美國總公司回信,郭庭愷對警方的效率深感遺憾。
李氏說,該公司聲稱是美國金融公司Plauski的代理,但郭庭愷一早已向國家銀行查訊后,證實國家銀行並沒發出相關准證。
李氏說,他在9月9日致電給武吉阿曼調查官查訊案件進展,對方告訴他警方已發信給Plauski,但3個月了,也沒收到任何答覆。
郭庭愷說,通過國家銀行就可證實該公司是否合法操作,國家銀行的回信中表明,所有自稱為Plauski代理的公司或代理人,皆沒獲得國家銀行的批准。
李氏說,最近他向武吉阿曼警方查訊時,調查官告訴他已將案件呈上給副檢察司,但警方不願讓他閱讀調查報告。 |
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发表于 10-11-2009 07:24 PM
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谢谢您的分享,本组织与他们无关系。。。。本组织只提供帮客户Trade服务,用的是有瑞士国家认证的Dukascopy 提供的平台。
[ 本帖最后由 jason_fxonline 于 10-11-2009 07:27 PM 编辑 ] |
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晕。。。10%回筹。。。还是每个月算的。。。 唉。。。银行可是非常有兴趣的。。。
银行提供融资给你们就好了啊,还那么辛苦放账给平民百姓干嘛。。那一年才10%。。。
有点常识的人都应该可以想通。。。“贪心”+“智商”有问题的人才会向你们投资吧。。。
(还是你也是投资者之一?然后再找投资者?没到手的钱,还没回本,那可都不是你的盈利。这种可是金钱塔游戏老板惯用伎俩。。。奉劝。。。及早放下屠刀,回头是岸。。。)
什么证明,文件,都是废物啦。。。老板要出来骗钱,没一些有利欺骗“道具”,哪能欺骗得了专业人士,包括律师。
小弟,只用常理推论,如果投资计划太好,那直接向银行,大集团,企业融资好了,小百姓一直以来可是“水鱼”,是没可能有机会接触那些超出常理的“赚钱机会”。
快些把你的投资资金从中取出来吧。。。阿尼陀佛。。。 |
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Post 了有几天后,本人有所领悟到,以前没有证据,人证,保证都会说是骗人,老千等等,现在就算有证据,有人证,有法律保障等等...都还是一样,没人愿意挑战,这就是大马的人所为..你等我,我等你...看谁挑战后,对了,我才试,错了,我笑你傻....
在FORUM里,吹水的,白撞的,胆小的,没钱的,无聊的,妒忌的,假好心的,撑英雄的,破坏的,统统都有,果然是大马“花”人的榜样, 只得个“讲”字 !
但是,只有少数勇于出来接受挑战亲自了解目睹的人,肯接受现实和事实的考察。我本人在此向你们致谢与致敬。
最后,本人将不再发表任何的言论,只有提供分享新的Statement。其余的,请你们在这自由发表言论。
谢谢各位在此分享你们想法与心得。。。。。
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LZ 我支持你,虽然我没有钱  |
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呵呵。。。楼主兄。。。
问题是你真的无法说服正常人。。。
这样好的方案,你不会找大机构?大集团?或者,大耳隆?他们肯定非常感兴趣。找到,你就不愁吃了。。。
或如果你有点钱,50k美金。10%一个月。老兄,马币15千利息一个月,你不够花?还需要找我们小额资金?
唉。。。不需多久,楼主兄就会消失了。。。
如果楼主是老板同伙,因骗不到人,而消失了。。。
如果楼主是其中投资商,因被骗,也消失了。。。
祝福,再会。。。
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