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【AKN 交流专区】AKN,可以长期持有吗?

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 楼主| 发表于 29-6-2008 12:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Mr.Business 于 29-6-2008 10:42 AM 发表
。。。

6. 听说AKN的风闻不是很好。
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愿闻其详。。。
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发表于 29-6-2008 12:40 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 invest_klse 于 29-6-2008 01:32 AM 发表
Paramount Discovery 以 RM 126.9 million 把 Innovative Groups 卖掉。
扣除当初 Paramount Discovery 投入 Innovative Groups 的 RM 88 million。
Paramount Discovery 大约赚了 RM37 million。


好象不能这么算的,还要计算这段时期Innovative Groups为AKN赚的钱。
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 楼主| 发表于 29-6-2008 01:49 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 42# Mr.Business 的帖子

这要看 Innovative Group 有没有把赚到的钱分给 AKN(发 dividend)。

由于无法确定,我假设 Innovative Group 把盈利 retain 起来了。
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发表于 29-6-2008 02:43 PM | 显示全部楼层
AKN和MEMS是同一个管理层,请去MEMS的专区看看她发生什么事了。。。帐目有问题,进GN3。。。

蚂蚁讲过:
一日不忠,百年不用。

http://chinese2.cari.com.my/myforum/viewthread.php?tid=813804&extra=page%3D1&page=5

原帖由 invest_klse 于 29-6-2008 12:58 AM 发表
卖不成 吗???

那我又可以重新考虑长期持有 AKN 了。。。。。


"due diligence"过不了绝对是坏事。
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发表于 29-6-2008 02:43 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 44# Mr.Business 的帖子

Wednesday November 28, 2007
MEMS Technology to conduct special audit on accounts


PETALING JAYA: MEMS Technology Bhd's board of directors wants to conduct a special audit on its financial accounts as the company has overstated its revenue by 26.8% or RM19.7mil for the financial year ended July 31 (FY07).

In a statement to Bursa Malaysia yesterday, MEMS Technology said its external auditor had expressed concerns over “certain transactions relating to revenue, property plant and equipment”.

“As a result of this, the unaudited consolidated revenue for the financial year ended July 31 will be revised to RM53.7mil.

This will consequently result in the unaudited net profit being reduced from RM21.47mil to RM13.45mil,” it said.

Under the listing requirements of Bursa Malaysia, MEMS Technology was required to furnish the audited financial statements FY07, within four months from the close of the financial year.

The company said it was not able to issue its audited financial statements by this Friday's deadline.

The board had resolved to appoint an independent committee comprising the company's independent directors to consider the matters highlighted by the external auditors, including the mandate to appoint a professional firm to carry out a special audit.

“The professional firm will report directly to the independent committee, comprising Zakaria Merican Osman Merican, Datuk Dr Mohamed Ariffin Aton, Dr Aziuddin Ahmad and Norazharuddin Abu Talib,” the company said in the statement.

MEMS Technology was in the midst of applying for a transfer to the Bursa Malaysia main board.

Part of the transfer requirements is to have an uninterrupted cumulative audited profit of at least RM30mil over three to five years and a minimum audited net profit of RM8mil for the most recent financial year.

http://biz.thestar.com.my/news/s ... 16&sec=business
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 楼主| 发表于 29-6-2008 09:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 Mr.Business 于 29-6-2008 02:43 PM 发表
AKN和MEMS是同一个管理层,请去MEMS的专区看看她发生什么事了。。。帐目有问题,进GN3。。。


原来 AKN 的管理层有前科。。。

看来我踩到地雷了。。。


P/S: 谢谢 business 兄提供资讯。
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发表于 29-6-2008 09:38 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 46# invest_klse 的帖子

不用客气。。。我是觉得管理层的动作可疑,帐面也可疑。。。
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发表于 30-6-2008 09:22 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 47# Mr.Business 的帖子

谢谢你。
实在不认识AKN 的管理层。
谢谢Invest兄的PM。
买卖自负,不会埋怨你的。
感激你的分享。

我会考虑下一步。

你投资那么多,替你忧心。
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发表于 30-6-2008 12:24 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 38# invest_klse 的帖子

我在科技热潮时有留意这股。会讲管理层不好是因为多年的管理层历史结论。
这类股起伏不定,东西是管理层讲了算,背后有炒家,除非现在有炒家要炒,不然长期投资肯定亏钱几率高过赚钱的机会。

管理层是我投资的第一个看的要点,如果不好,其他任何技术,基本,行业我是不会动的。这是我投资的纪律。我的钱只会投资在有诚信的管理层。我的任务就是在这么多有有诚信的管理层里选出最好的公司。

[ 本帖最后由 8years 于 30-6-2008 12:27 PM 编辑 ]
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发表于 30-6-2008 12:32 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 49# 8years 的帖子

我已经不计成本的卖掉了。

又犯错,又学到了。因为Keladi 的关系,现在我斩手指,是越来越快了。
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发表于 30-6-2008 12:44 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 50# tan81 的帖子

你越来越强了。。。。一日不见,如隔三秋。。。。   
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发表于 30-6-2008 12:47 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 51# ThermoFisher 的帖子

这样也叫强?你是挪谕我吧。

是了,你有新的称号,和8年有关。
你以后就叫“神的儿子”。
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发表于 30-6-2008 12:52 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 52# tan81 的帖子

我都亏到看不到路了,还什么"神的儿子"。。。。
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发表于 1-7-2008 02:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tan81 于 30-6-2008 12:47 PM 发表
这样也叫强?你是挪谕我吧。

是了,你有新的称号,和8年有关。
你以后就叫“神的儿子”。



那无花兄呢?
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 楼主| 发表于 3-7-2008 03:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 tan81 于 30-6-2008 12:32 PM 发表
我已经不计成本的卖掉了。

又犯错,又学到了。因为Keladi 的关系,现在我斩手指,是越来越快了


tan81 兄,你最让我欣赏的,就是这一点。



因此,我决定向你学习。昨天,我也不计成本把 AKN 卖了。

哎。。。这股花了我一年多的时间。。。

[ 本帖最后由 invest_klse 于 4-7-2008 11:54 PM 编辑 ]
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发表于 3-7-2008 04:57 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 55# invest_klse 的帖子

期待你投资组合的中期报告"My Portfolio at 30-JUNE-2008 "
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发表于 3-7-2008 08:17 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 55# invest_klse 的帖子

老大.....我想送你一个字........

但想不到哪个最好........因为太多了.......
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 楼主| 发表于 5-7-2008 12:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 ThermoFisher 于 3-7-2008 04:57 PM 发表
期待你投资组合的中期报告"My Portfolio at 30-JUNE-2008 "


我直接告诉你吧。。。。

过去三个月来,除了加 RM1000 左右买了 AirAsia,其它组合完全没变。。。。。


卖出 AKN 是7月份的事。。。。。
另外,我也卖了 RUBHD。。。。
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发表于 20-7-2008 02:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
又是related交易。。。

MEMS科技322萬購原料存貨
2008-07-19 17:48

(吉隆坡)MEMS科技(MEMS,0052;MESDAQ科技組)以321萬6943令吉代價,向AKN科技(AKN,7068;主板科技組)的子公司購買一批原料存貨。

MEMS科技發文告說,上述原料將來生產、包裝和光學電子產品。另一方面,AKN科技的文告則指出,將用脫售所得供子公司償還債務。

http://biz.sinchew-i.com/node/14951
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发表于 7-10-2008 02:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
烂管理层。。。

07-10-2008: Bursa reprimands MEMS, fines six directors
By Doreen Leong

PETALING JAYA: Bursa Malaysia Securities Bhd has publicly reprimanded MEMS Technology Bhd and its directors for breach of rules in relation to submission of its accounts and imposed fines totalling RM751,000 on six of the company directors.

MEMS Tech was also required to carry out a limited review performed by its external auditors on its quarterly report submission -- for four quarters.

In relation to the company’s breaches, its chief executive officer Kathirgamasundaram Sooriakumar, executive director and chief financial officer Tan Yeow Teck were slapped with fines of RM197,500 each.

Meanwhile, its non-independent and non-executive chairman Datuk Ahmad Kabeer Mohamed Nagoor, executive director Bryan Keith Patmon and non-independent and non-executive directors, Ooi Boon Leong and Lim Eng Thong were fined RM89,000 each.

Bursa Securites said MEMS Tech had breached the listing requirements as it had failed to submit its audited accounts and annual report for the financial year ended July 31, 2007 by Nov 30, 2007 and Jan 31, 2008 respectively.

The audited accounts and annual report were only submitted on April 23, 2008 and May 2, 2008 respectively. Further, the external auditors, KPMG had expressed a disclaimer opinion in the audited accounts and MEMS Tech was classified as a Guidance Note No 3/2006 company on April 28, 2008 based on the disclaimer.

MEMS Tech also failed to submit its quarterly report for the financial period ended Oct 31, 2007 and Jan 31, 2008 within the stipulated period.

Bursa Securities said MEMS Tech has also failed to take into account a 38.95% deviation in net profit in its fourth quarter results ended Dec 31, 2007, which was announced on April 28, 2008.

MEMS Tech had reported an audited net profit of RM13.11 million in FY2007 versus an unaudited net profit of RM21.47 million,

The deviation was mainly due to the reversal of RM19.72 million revenue arising from the board’s decision not to recognise the revenue after KPMG has expressed its concerns as announced on Nov 27, 2007.

http://www.theedgedaily.com/cms/ ... a-98350a00-bf30af13
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