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本帖最后由 天然夜行者 于 6-1-2016 07:29 PM 编辑

Man United questions remain for Louis van Gaal despite club backing

BY MIGUEL DELANEY


There have been a lot of questions asked at Old Trafford throughout the past few weeks, but one still takes precedence: How is Louis van Gaal still in the Manchester United job?

Without a win in eight games before the 2-1 defeat of Swansea last weekend, it had been hard to find people around the club who believed the Dutchman would be manager in 2016. But he is.

Sources have told ESPN FC that the majority of the players were unhappy with his coaching methods, while many Old Trafford officials had raised real doubts about his future. Of course, official messages from people at United were slightly different: some said Van Gaal was being judged on a game-by-game basis, others insisted he had been given three games to prove he should stay. Either way, the bottom line was always the same: a near-unanimous verdict that Van Gaal would not be Manchester United manager in 2016.

Meanwhile, Jose Mourinho's camp have been pushing heavily for the job. Indeed, sources told ESPN FC that his representatives contacted Old Trafford officials within 24 hours of the Portuguese's sacking by Chelsea.

Mourinho is certainly frustrated at the current situation, but the 52-year-old is one indirect reason that Van Gaal remains at Old Trafford. The timing might have felt right for the Portuguese to take the role he has long wanted, given that he was suddenly available at a time when United were in such strife, but the reality is there are still too many influential figures at the club who don't think that Mourinho is the right candidate for the job. Some still don't want him anywhere near Old Trafford.

Sources have told ESPN FC that stance had been tested in the past few weeks, as some argued that United absolutely needed to appoint Mourinho now more than ever -- especially if they are to miss out on Pep Guardiola to Manchester City.

The overriding feeling, however, is still that Mourinho wouldn't get the job if Van Gaal leaves. The big question is, who exactly would be a suitable -- and available -- replacement? United would obviously prefer to install a manager who would be there for the long-term, but that kind of figure is a lot more difficult to come by in December.

The obvious stand-in would be club legend and assistant Ryan Giggs, but there remain reservations about his lack of experience, particularly from executive vice-chairman Ed Woodward.

Woodward wants to continue the process of making the club a truly international institution, moving it away from a core group of figures from the Sir Alex Ferguson era, even if he is still keen to keep that history a key part of the club. That process would obviously be better served by appointing a manager of global stature, rather than an untried coach.

One crucial constant, though, is that Woodward has always backed Van Gaal. Sources have told ESPN FC that he has been determined to keep the Dutchman, despite so many arguments -- and results -- indicating he should sack Van Gaal. That is why the verdict to sack him was never going to be unanimous.

The man who mattered most -- beyond the Glazer ownership -- thought otherwise. The reason? Van Gaal was Woodward's personal choice. It would reflect so much better on him if Van Gaal is a success, especially after this crisis. Woodward is also mindful of wider financial concerns -- from payoffs to the implications of failure to qualify for the Champions League.

So far Woodward has had the final say, therefore Van Gaal is going nowhere. That decision has been taken despite figures at the club briefing British newspapers that Van Gaal himself felt he couldn't fix the situation, and offered to resign in late December -- an offer which was not accepted by Woodward.

Since then, sources have told ESPN FC that the manager has showed himself to be much more open to suggestions from others on how to fix this crisis, particularly those of Giggs.

Van Gaal has been more willing to acquiesce, to compromise on tactics, and that could be seen in United's play during the 0-0 draw with Chelsea, when the side were much more proactive and willing to take risks than recently. Despite the fact the game was goalless, United had plenty of chances and there was a traditional vibrancy to them. Afterwards, the players seemed more content and it could well be the turning point in terms of the manager's relationship with them.

There have been differing viewpoints over just how much that squad had turned against Van Gaal. Some reports have claimed the players were just frustrated with his unmoving nature; others maintained they were close to "mutiny" and many wanted Van Gaal out.

It is certainly true there was widespread dissatisfaction. It's also true that good results help heal almost any situation, especially if they come within an approach that feels more natural to the players. That is what has happened in the past two games. United have not been great, but they have been better, and breaking their eight-game winless run against Swansea on Saturday has naturally made the players happier.

Sources have told ESPN FC that Woodward is hopeful that this positive energy will help get the club back on course for the remainder of the season. He is also willing to back Van Gaal in the transfer market again, and United will look to bring in a left-back, a thrusting midfielder and another attacker.

The problem is that the same questions will still stay. Even if Van Gaal gets the more creative players the team needs, will there be any way to avoid him curbing their individualism in order to absorb them into his overall "philosophy"?

While he has temporarily compromised his beliefs in order to fix this crisis, will he really be so willing to deviate from everything he knows in the long-term? If he doesn't, will we see the same cycle played out again? Will another defeat or dull game bring United back to where they started?

What is clear is that Van Gaal has to continue to win games to avoid the negativity of recent weeks. With Mourinho and perhaps Guardiola waiting in the wings, there are plenty of questions still being asked around Old Trafford. The big one is whether or not Van Gaal will still be around to answer them in the coming months.







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天然夜行者 发表于 6-1-2016 06:39 PM
這招在新國行不通

不過...講英文不難,講英式英文/美式英文比較難

新国不是讲singlish的meh?
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发表于 6-1-2016 08:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
Aaran 发表于 6-1-2016 11:19 AM
不是信心十足或死脑筋或固执,就是 “应得世代 Entitlement Generation” 的通病。

如果你是90后,那 ...

哈哈,你很像对80s和90s出生的有偏见。生活水平不断提高,要求也自然高了嘛等你这个00后踏入社会工作后,你的要求又会比我们90后高的呀
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发表于 6-1-2016 08:54 PM | 显示全部楼层
Blaugrana 发表于 5-1-2016 07:46 PM
What kind of crap is this?  This is ridiculously ridiculous.评判官只是aaran一个吗?{:w ...

有什麼好出奇的?

草泥馬這 piece of shit 都可以連續兩年得到MU player of the year。

你說奇怪不奇怪啊?


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oldfishes 发表于 6-1-2016 08:54 PM
有什麼好出奇的?

草泥馬這 piece of shit 都可以連續兩年得到MU player of the year。

老鱼呀老鱼,怎么我看你写这个piece of shit写的特别有力有劲,带有一种我说不出的力量呀老鱼你这是在挖苦aaran吧?
请aaran老弟来讲几句话吧
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Blaugrana 发表于 6-1-2016 09:14 PM
老鱼呀老鱼,怎么我看你写这个piece of shit写的特别有力有劲,带有一种我说不出的力量呀老鱼你 ...

這只是你說的。

我說的只是這世上無奇不有啊
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oldfishes 发表于 6-1-2016 09:44 PM
這只是你說的。

我說的只是這世上無奇不有啊

你所说的无奇不有是不是指在aaran 心目中的piece of shit在曼联赢了player of the year, 而在你老鱼和很多人心目中最烂的队长是英格兰足球先生?
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Blaugrana 发表于 6-1-2016 08:10 PM
哈哈,你很像对80s和90s出生的有偏见。生活水平不断提高,要求也自然高了嘛等你这个00后踏入社会工 ...

这不是偏见,这是个人职场经验,还有 empirical data support。网上大把评论 “Entitlement Generation” 的文章,这个名词也不是我 coin 的。
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天然夜行者 发表于 6-1-2016 06:39 PM
這招在新國行不通

不過...講英文不難,講英式英文/美式英文比較難

小新那些西化了的西,没有兴趣。
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Blaugrana 发表于 6-1-2016 10:06 PM
你所说的无奇不有是不是指在aaran 心目中的piece of shit在曼联赢了player of the year, 而在你老鱼和很 ...

你生活了几十年,这世界无奇不有的事还看不够多咩?才4、5个月前 Mourinho 还是全英伦的英雄,现在还不是变成了过街老鼠?速度之快,比 a piece of shit 前后的时间还要短。
Hazard 不久前还是 Premier League Player of the Year, 现在还不是要给人 offload 了?

才几个月前 Angela Merkel 还在全德国直播的节目中对口操流利德语的Palestinian小难民说,sorry 你必须离开德国,我们不能再接收更多难民了。
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/16/angela-merkel-comforts-teenage-palestinian-asylum-seeker-germany
才过了几个月,因为沙滩男孩的照片,还不是一样要做秀抢先欧洲各国欢迎更多的难民?

所以我才会说那些 couldn't read beyond the soundbites 的人很难沟通,因为他们只会抓住你曾经说过的一、两个词来断章取义,更宏观的他们看不明白,也没有耐心去理解。因为如果他们不理解,那就肯定是其他人的错。
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Aaran 发表于 6-1-2016 05:35 PM
原来跟正妹搭讪的 golden rule 是要讲英文。好勒以后就先讲英文。

台式英文 一聽就懂假蕉人
今年有空飛去台灣試試看

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Aaran + 5 All the best bro!

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Blaugrana 发表于 6-1-2016 10:06 PM
你所说的无奇不有是不是指在aaran 心目中的piece of shit在曼联赢了player of the year, 而在你老鱼和很 ...

你这老鬼竟然是90后,还不够无奇不有?
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发表于 7-1-2016 12:48 AM | 显示全部楼层
懂福建话的享用最佳。

http://video.weibo.com/player/1034:9320a116f30e1ebf60d76fb0a21dff67/v.swf
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Aventurina King。石更了。


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FA昨晚有出場, 全場最低分, 半場就被換下

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筷子 + 3 我很赞同

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大內終於揚眉吐氣,祝福他:

Valencia 4 - 0 Granada
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