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妈妈们喂人奶的坏处!(更新论点 20 JULY 2010)

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发表于 29-1-2010 02:14 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 369# blackfish84


    同意!

   相信大部分的哺乳妈妈都会为了要哺乳比比而做好准备吧!哺乳妈妈们都会为了要给比比提供有营养的奶水而时时刻刻提醒自己要多摄取有营养的食物,少碰无益的食物,更会为了确保奶水源源不绝,而多喝汤汤水水之类的吧?

   我是属于虚不受补的体质,不能补得太热,又不能补得太凉,以前常会有感冒,喉咙发炎(教书时过度使用嗓子)等毛病,很多时候都是喝的水不够多造成的。而在哺乳期间,会为了哺乳小鱼而时时刻刻提醒自己多喝水,照顾身体,千万不能病,再累也不能倒下,反而身体比之前好多了,要知道万病皆因水喝的不够~~

  其实,哺乳妈妈们也不是特地要炫耀自己的身材有多苗条,有多好,那是因为lz开帖所说的第4个论点,是说到妈妈哺乳会因此而身材走样,而做出回应啊!事实上,我们(哺乳妈妈们)在哺乳期间的身材没有走样嘛!当然,我们也不是仗着哺乳不会胖就毫无节制的吃啊!产后的身材会胖,那也是因为孕期是所累积的脂肪,产后哺乳比比时,之前的脂肪都转换成奶水让比比吸收回去了,所以哺乳妈妈们的身材会比较快恢复。而哺乳妈妈们在哺乳期间会更加注重饮食,这么一来身材理所当然维持的很好啊!

  而tiny版主的个案,以我个人的经验来看,她没信心全哺乳而混合奶粉哺乳,只是因为对哺乳认识不够深,加上身边又没有军师帮助,在担心比比可能因为自己的奶水不足而挨饿,她会混合奶粉喂比比是合乎常理的。套一句我的妇科医生的话:很多人以为哺乳比比吃不饱,其实是吃不停才对!  相信哺乳妈妈们都明白何谓比比会吃不停吧?

  我是过来人,我明白妈妈们想要哺乳,却不知从何下手而感到彷徨,甚至放弃的心理,所以我一直很希望能够以自己的经验及对哺乳的了解来帮助需要的哺乳妈妈们。我很幸运,虽然我的妈妈不曾哺乳,也没有这方面的知识;而我的家婆虽然曾经哺乳,但是她那套不提也罢,但是我遇到一位好医生,还有各位佳礼哺乳妈妈们无私分享自己的哺乳经验及知识 ,我才能够全哺乳小鱼至今,小鱼快11个月了!

   哺乳,并非易事,但是也并非想象般难,因为事在人为而已。很不赞同lz开此帖,所说的论点都在误导哺乳妈妈们。。。

  哺乳妈妈们,我们加油吧!

  配方奶粉妈妈们,如果我们所说的有冒犯之处,请多多谅解,多多包涵,我们的出发点都是捍卫母乳而已。。。真的。。。


再次诚意地说:任何准妈妈计划产后哺乳,又不知从何下手,不嫌弃的话,我可以帮你的。相信我,只要你愿意,你肯,你一定行!pm我吧!
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发表于 29-1-2010 09:16 AM | 显示全部楼层
A) 体格比较小!
如果有看到身边体格较小的
BABY,或得空去郊外的政府妇产科诊所看看那里的矮小的BABY,不妨问问她们的妈妈是喂什么?如果喂人奶的BABY体格小,政府医生们还会给一些高营养的牛奶粉给那些矮小的BABY喝。另外,我真的不曾听过喝奶粉喝到营养不良,那么喂母乳的BABY体格小的机率比较高是不争的事实!为什么会这样呢?原因只是母乳的质量全靠母亲身体营养,也就是说母亲吃什么,宝宝就会摄取什么!如果母亲没法摄取足够的营养,宝宝就会营养不良!再说,如果母亲是比较偏食的呢(如不喜欢吃鱼类),那人奶又如何令宝宝有足够的DHA-OMEGA3来帮宝宝脑部发展?


我儿子5岁了。。
现在的体重还是12+kg 左右
有些2岁的,都已经达到这个重量了
但,却从来没有医生建议我给他们喝一些”高营养的牛奶粉“喔
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发表于 29-1-2010 10:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
是咯~!
这个贴讲比较多哺乳的好处。
可以申精华贴了。
Zita 发表于 28-1-2010 04:00 PM



    升精华贴???不是便宜了搂主?。。
看看有谁把它的主题改掉。。我才赞同。。
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发表于 29-1-2010 10:42 AM | 显示全部楼层
其實,可以感覺到LZ的思想模式是這種説法:
我們人類每天3餐所攝取的食物也會造成營養不均衡:油和煎炸會造成肥胖高血壓和身材走樣,爆炒會造成癌症,米飯糖份又會造成糖尿病,牛奶不夠造成鈣質不夠,青菜煮熟后纖維不夠,魚類海鮮不夠造成腦發育不好,etc.... 所以,天天3餐用multi-vitamin丸才是最正確的健康!
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发表于 29-1-2010 11:19 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复  blackfish84


    同意!

   相信大部分的哺乳妈妈都会为了要哺乳比比而做好准备吧!哺乳妈妈 ...
卷卷鱼 发表于 29-1-2010 02:14 AM


偶也支持不封帖...

偶昨天成功整天都不喂奶粉给小女儿呢...她也没哭闹肚子饿..小便也一堆证明奶水足够
会坚持努力...
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发表于 29-1-2010 12:22 PM | 显示全部楼层
我发觉这个帖让母乳妈妈更珍惜母乳

所以我也支持不封帖
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发表于 29-1-2010 01:10 PM | 显示全部楼层
我也支持不封, 可以让新手妈妈们了解更多哦..
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发表于 29-1-2010 01:12 PM | 显示全部楼层
偶也支持不封帖...

偶昨天成功整天都不喂奶粉给小女儿呢...她也没哭闹肚子饿..小便也一堆证明奶水足 ...
blackfish84 发表于 29-1-2010 11:19 AM


哇.. 很好哦.. 是BLACKFISH 你介绍我去ANGKUKU的哦.. 我在那边学到很多.. 我现在也哺乳了宝宝五个月了, 宝宝刚满五个月了哦..
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发表于 29-1-2010 02:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 藤原佐为 于 29-1-2010 05:05 PM 编辑

回复 362# ph070707

我看到的是楼主在不断地为自己的言论狡辩和辩护。




以下的言论与搜寻到的资料,足以证明楼主的说法是依据自己所看到几个个案、自己的脑袋消化后说出来的。

备注:紫色是我的言论,褐色是资料,其它颜色是属于楼主的言论,我把它们抄过来贴在这里。


楼主说:

喝人奶的BABY虽然比较壮,可是医生却没告诉妈妈们的坏处:

A) 体格比较小这个是针对宝宝

B) BABY没有这么聪明看看现在喝奶粉的孩子比以前喝人奶的孩子聪明很多就知道啦!这个也是针对宝宝

C) 母亲的营养可会给BABY吸收,照成母亲营养不良,记忆力猛退这个是针对妈妈

D) 母亲身材走样这个也是针对妈

至于为什么政府一直鼓励母亲们喂人奶就是BABY容易吸收,没有这么多问题像便秘,敏感什么之类。。。。


如果宝宝可以适应喝奶粉,我还是觉得是最好的--〉这个是针对宝宝,间接也针对妈妈吧?楼主认为喂奶粉后,妈妈记忆力就不会猛退,身材也不会走样。

就是他用了那么多叹号来打母乳和哺乳的坏处,所以妈妈们看了生气才会来发表言论说母乳的珍贵。我质疑楼主到底会不会正确的使用标点符号。


我在楼主第一个帖子里,看不到他是要来讨论母乳和奶粉的利与弊。我看到的只是楼主在说母乳的坏处,哺乳对妈妈的负面影响。他没有提及哺乳对妈妈的正面的影响。在楼主的发言里,母乳的唯一好处就只是宝宝容易吸收,在生理上不会面对任何不适感而已,在楼主的眼里,他认为母乳仅此而已。

假如这个帖子是让完全对哺乳没有认识的准妈妈看了,准妈妈也许会相信哺乳的确会让宝宝和自己得了楼主说的那四个坏处。

然后,楼主编辑帖子:

编辑日子26 JAN 10
因为太多恶劣的攻击和误会,我想对你们澄清一些看法,我其实不是完全完全教唆MM们不要喂人奶!初奶很重要,我还是鼓励你们喂,但过了初奶期,那营养价值也没有这么高,不如想想尝试换营养价值高的奶粉!

楼主不是完全完全教唆,但是已经默认自己有教唆的成分吧?是他自己这么写的。

楼主认为初乳的营养价值高,但是过了初奶期,营养价值就不高了,楼主建议妈妈尝试换营养价值高的奶粉。请问楼主所谓的初奶期是什么?从什么时候开始到什么时候才是初奶期?请问楼主你认为那一种奶粉的营养价值高的呢?你是如何断定营养价值高的奶粉?是通过价钱?通过罐子上注明的营养?还是你自己在实验室里亲自研究那些营养?那么母乳的营养你是否研究过了?


接下来,楼主增长他的论点:

(增长解释论点-27JAN10)
A) 体格比较小!
如果有看到身边体格较小的
BABY,或得空去郊外的政府妇产科诊所看看那里的矮小的BABY,不妨问问她们的妈妈是喂什么?如果喂人奶的BABY体格小,政府医生们还会给一些高营养的牛奶粉给那些矮小的BABY喝。另外,我真的不曾听过喝奶粉喝到营养不良,那么喂母乳的BABY体格小的机率比较高是不争的事实!为什么会这样呢?原因只是母乳的质量全靠母亲身体营养,也就是说母亲吃什么,宝宝就会摄取什么!如果母亲没法摄取足够的营养,宝宝就会营养不良!再说,如果母亲是比较偏食的呢(如不喜欢吃鱼类),那人奶又如何令宝宝有足够的DHA-OMEGA3来帮宝宝脑部发展?
     我剪贴的时候,这个部分漏了。所以现在编辑打过。我的母乳宝宝在6个月开始副食品后,体重增加得不够迅速,虽然成长曲线没有进入危险地带,不过政府护士已经杞人忧天了,每一次都清楚的问我宝宝的三餐是怎么吃法,我告诉她们后,她们也觉得我的喂养是正常的,没有问题。有一次还遇到一个不知所谓的护士,告诉我“政府都鼓励妈妈哺乳到1岁后就可以停止了。”我听后反问她既然如此,为何可以看到海报上依照WHO的建议注明最好哺乳到两岁?她听了后愣了5秒,然后改口说不是停止,是喂奶粉,哺乳照常继续。

我的宝宝每一次到政府的诊疗所,我都会被“警告”不要让宝宝的体重进入危险地带。很奇怪,一直被警告,可是却没有给我楼主所谓的高营养的牛奶粉,难道护士不能够给,只有医生才可以?

政府医院的护士,在宝宝几个月以后,就没有测量头围和体高的增长了。只关注体重而已。宝宝的体重增加得少,不代表头围和体高没有增加 。很多医护人员,都会拿母乳宝宝的成长曲线和standard growth charts作比较,这是错误的。母乳宝宝的成长曲线,得用这个来做标准:

Growth charts and breastfed baby growth
I have heard of many breastfed babies (including my own) whose doctor was disturbed at some point because the baby wasn't gaining weight quickly enough, even though the baby was well within the above parameters for weight gain. The problem is that many doctors are not familiar with the normal weight gain patterns of breastfed babies, and rely too much upon standard growth charts.

http://kellymom.com/babyconcerns/growth/growthcharts.html

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发表于 29-1-2010 02:31 PM | 显示全部楼层
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回复 1# iceloo

我舅舅的儿子一出世就喝奶粉,而且是最贵的那个品牌。舅母很羡慕我,有母乳可以喂养我的娃娃。她说她没有母乳,这个儿子是她的第二胎(可想而知,不是生了1胎后的妈妈就对哺乳有深入的了解)1岁后的几个月,他儿子的体重没有增加了,他说怎么喂都没有增加。请问这个在你的眼里,是不是喝奶粉喝到营养不良?你想了后一定要回答我。



B) BABY没有这么聪明!看看现在喝奶粉的孩子比以前喝人奶的孩子聪明很多就知道啦!
喝奶粉的宝宝是不是比喝人奶的宝宝聪明呢?这话题重是很多人有自己单方面的想法,就如我曾提到,MM坐月吃的坐月餐就是破坏宝宝脑细胞的最毁祸首。竟然是祸首那么还是有很多人说,我家儿子喝人奶特别聪明之类的话题,但是却没想想是不是应该喝配方牛奶会更聪明呢?另外,就算不是酒精问题,那我们看看60~70年代的不喝酒的土著95%的人喂人奶,多少巴仙的人在世界成了人材。所以,请喂人奶的MM们不要夸夸其谈!

看楼主这么说,我认为妈妈们连初乳都可以放弃,不用喂宝宝了。因为楼主说我们华人坐月子吃的月子餐就是破坏宝宝脑细胞的最毁祸首。楼主之前说的初奶很重要的言论就自相矛盾了。楼主倒不如建议妈妈用牛只的初乳来代替人类的初乳,因为他曾说过牛是吃草的,呼吸新鲜的空气,人类是杂食的,也把食物链里毒素相传搬出来,你这么说,牛的初乳绝对比分娩后的妈妈的初乳来得纯净。楼主就算没有教唆不喂人奶,但是他是不鼓励喂人奶的吧?


楼主指的土著,是指orang asli吗?还是有包括马来人在内?研究人员发现,多数的母乳宝宝在成长后,比奶粉宝宝来得优秀。我们也不能忽略父母给与宝宝的成长环境、教育等其他因素,还有一个因素不能忽略的,就是民族的文化。楼主认定喝奶粉的宝宝是比母乳宝宝聪明,因为楼主BABY没有这么聪明看看现在喝奶粉的孩子比以前喝人奶的孩子聪明很多就知道啦! 我不晓得是不是楼主夫妇哺乳失败后,面对身边的人一直对他们说奶粉的不好,使到他感到压力和不忿,所以来这里开贴说母乳宝宝的不是,说哺乳对妈妈的坏处。说来说去,又拿不出实在的证据或数据给大家,都是自己的见解而已。



  为什么会这样呢?原因只是母乳的质量全靠母亲身体营养,也就是说母亲吃什么,宝宝就会摄取什么!如果母亲没法摄取足够的营养,宝宝就会营养不良!再说,如果母亲是比较偏食的呢(如不喜欢吃鱼类),那人奶又如何令宝宝有足够的DHA-OMEGA3来帮宝宝脑部发展?再说,如果母亲们之前是有抽烟的习惯,那么能温长几十年的尼古汀又会不会从人奶传给宝宝呢?

知不知道为什么是骨骼疏松症?为什么大多数都是老年妇女?相信稍微有点知识的妈妈们都知道这是喂人奶的后余症!当母亲摄取不足够的钙质但需要更多钙质来制造更多的母乳时,人体就会利用母亲骨骼里的钙质来帮助!这么大声的妈妈们,还是想想你们那最后几十年的活动吧!

你对骨骼疏松症不了解,还说这是哺乳的后遗症。还叫大声的妈妈想想我们最后几十年的活动...难怪妈妈们会对你大大声,因为你也是用了那么多叹号对妈妈们大大声...你的第一个帖子的语气已经很不客气了。你说的哺乳对骨骼疏松症的影响如下:

第一项资料:

Breastfeeding and Bone Health

Breastfeeding also affects a mother's bones. Studies have shown that women often lose 3 to 5 percent of their bone mass during breastfeeding, although they recover it rapidly after weaning. This bone loss may be caused by the growing baby's increased need for calcium, which is drawn from the mother's bones. The amount of calcium the mother needs depends on the amount of breast milk produced and how long breastfeeding continues. Women also may lose bone mass during breastfeeding because they're producing less estrogen, which is the hormone that protects bones. The good news is thatlike bone lost during pregnancy, bone lost during breastfeeding is usually recovered within 6 months after breastfeeding ends.

  

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回复 1# iceloo

Tips to Keep Bones Healthy During Pregnancy, Breastfeeding, and Beyond

Taking care of your bones is important throughout life, including before, during, and after pregnancy and breastfeeding. A balanced diet with adequate calcium, regular exercise, and a healthy lifestyle are good for mothers and their babies.

Calcium. Although this important mineral is important throughout your lifetime, your body's demand for calcium is greater during pregnancy and breastfeeding because both you and your baby need it. The National Academy of Sciences recommends that women who are pregnant or breastfeeding consume 1,000 mg (milligrams) of calcium each day. For pregnant teens, the recommended intake is even higher: 1,300 mg of calcium a day.

Good sources of calcium include:

·low-fat dairy products, such as milk, yogurt, cheese, and ice cream

·dark green, leafy vegetables, such as broccoli, collard greens, and bok choy--〉含有钙质的蔬菜

·canned sardines and salmon with bones

·tofu, almonds, and corn tortillas

·foods fortified with calcium, such as orange juice, cereals, and breads.

Exercise. Like muscles, bones respond to exercise by becoming stronger. Regular exercise, especially weight-bearing exercise that forces you to work against gravity, helps build and maintain strong bones. Examples of weight-bearing exercise include walking, climbing stairs, dancing, and weight training. Exercising during pregnancy can benefit your health in other ways, too.

Before you begin or resume an exercise program, talk to your doctor about your plans.

Healthy lifestyle. Smoking is bad for your baby, bad for your bones, and bad for your heart and lungs. If you smoke, talk to your doctor about quitting. He or she can suggest resources to help you. Alcohol also is bad for pregnant and breastfeeding women and their babies, and excess alcohol is bad for bones. Be sure to follow your doctor's orders to avoid alcohol during this important time.

http://www.niams.nih.gov/Health_info/Bone/Bone_Health/Pregnancy/default.asp


   

第二项资料:

Breastfeeding mothers and their children have a lower risk of developing osteoporosis. Women who do not breastfeed have a 4 times higher risk for osteoporosis than women who do breastfeed.

References:

1. Blaauw R. et al. Risk factors for development of osteoporosis in a South African population. SAMJ 84: 328-32, 1994

2. Kalwart et al. Bone mineral loss during lactation and recovery after weaning.
Obstet. Gynecol. 86: 26-32, 1995

3. Melton L.J. et al. Influence of breastfeeding and other reproductive factors on bone mass later in life. Osteoporos Int 22: 684-691, 1993

http://www.infactcanada.ca/Healthy%20Mothers.pdf



第三项资料:

  Breastfeeding protects against osteoporosis. During lactation a mother may experience decreases of bone mineral. A nursing mom's bone mineral density may be reduced in the whole body by 1 to 2 percent while she is still nursing. This is gained back, and bone mineral density may actually increase, when the baby is weaned from the breast. This is not dependent on additional calcium supplementation in the mother's diet.

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-benefits.html

      References:

References: Less Osteoporosis

Osteoporosis: Reduced risk with nursing? by Debbi Donovan, IBCLC

http://parenting.ivillage.com/baby/bbreastfeed/0,,3x74,00.html

  

这一篇楼主一定要读:

Osteoporosis by Kathryn Orlinsky, PhD http://web.archive.org/web/20021106205151/http://www.kjsl.com/~boynews/Osteoporosis.html

http://www.kellymom.com/bf/bfextended/ebf-refs.html#Osteoporosis
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我在此劝劝喂母乳的妈妈们,如果自认自己的体格比较强壮又健康,才考虑喂母乳吧!

从母乳的4大坏,变成劝说哺乳的妈妈有健康的体魄才考虑母乳?楼主第一次开话题的目的到底是什么,你自己目前还明确吗?

RUYI 98,这只是你个人的案件,不可以把你的案件供给全世界的人使用!

Ruyi98的是个人案件,我舅舅喝奶粉的宝宝也是个人案件对不?请问你所谓的奶粉让宝宝比母乳更聪明的说法是从哪里得来的不是个人的案件?可以放上来让我们了解吗?那么哺乳妈妈就可以斟酌要不要让宝宝们喝奶粉,因为你给的资料证明奶粉的比较聪明嘛我还看过自己的朋友称赞自己的宝宝聪明是因为她给宝宝喝了最贵的奶粉,而不是说他们夫妇俩是聪明的(两个都是专业人士),不是说她们每天都教导宝宝看闪卡、认识家里的物件的结果...很好笑,不是吗?


至于聪不聪明,遗传已了决定!我们只能靠后天的补助如给宝宝摄取足够的DHA-OMEGA3来达到100%的聪明指数!另外,宝宝懒惰不学习也会令宝宝聪明指数降落!或许,如果你早点给你第二个儿子喝奶粉,可能现在已经能背李白的诗词!

宝宝6个月开始接触副食品。1岁后,奶粉和母乳都是副食品。6个月以后,就可以让宝宝接触鱼类,不用靠加入DHA Omega 3的奶粉来让宝宝的脑袋发育。Ruyi98没有教孩子李白的诗词,孩子又怎么会?换去喝奶粉,没有教就会了?Ruyi98你教孩子李白的诗词了吗?我还没有呢,我念弟子规给她听吧了是楼主你否定母乳宝宝会这么聪明,Ruyi98才把自己孩子的情况告诉你和妈妈们。你却在那里理直气壮叫人喂奶粉...还叫人家喂到12岁,不如你喂你的宝宝奶粉到12岁后才来跟我们说吧...

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发表于 29-1-2010 02:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
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对!喂人奶子宫可以收缩,但最重要是这些都能从运动里达到有用得效果,难道喂人奶就不需运动?降低母亲患上乳癌!朋友,好像奶妈比较容易患上乳癌!几个老同事也是患上乳癌,问她们也是曾经喂母乳的!至于那些没生过孩子没喂过母乳的女人,却没听过患上乳癌!


哺乳的其中一个好处就是可以帮忙妈妈瘦身。没有人告诉你哺乳后不用运动的。哺乳可以降低女人患上乳癌的机率,不是不会患上乳癌,这一点要搞清楚。我的同事茹素10多年,单身,请问这样的女人将来会患上乳癌吗?我的一个同事要50了,每一天都熬夜,很迟才入睡,她没有生育过,每一年都定期做mammogram和其他的健康检查,没有人知道将来她会不会患上乳癌。你说的那些都是个人案件。患上乳癌对你来说,就是哺乳导致的,其他原因例如没有运动、饮食等似乎不是关键。

What Causes Breast Cancer?

The exact cause or causes of breast cancer remain unknown. Yet scientists have identified a number of risk factors that increase a person's chance of getting this disease. Certain risk factors, such as age, are beyond our control; whereas others, like drinking habits, can be modified.


http://www.ehealthmd.com/library/breastcancer/BRC_causes.html

至今还Remain unknown的原因,连科学家都还在寻找,你却已经知道跟哺乳有关系的。问了几个老同事而已,自己得出来的结论就是哺乳会导致乳癌。专家没有讲哺乳不会患上乳癌哦,他们说的是这样的:

A study by Yale University researchers showed that women who breastfed for two years or longer reduced their risk of breast cancer by 50 percent.  The researchers studied the medical history of 808 Chinese women in the rural(乡村哦,不是市区)Shandong province from 1997 to 1999.  The women were aged 30 to 80 and half had breast cancer and half did not. The study was published in the American Journal of Epidemiology.  Although the study did not explore the reasons why breastfeeding appears to lower the risk of breast cancer, some researchers say it could be because breastfeeding reduces exposure to estrogen, and yet another theory is that fat-soluble pollutants and carcinogens are not stored as much in lactating breasts than in non-lactation breasts.
http://www.breastfeeding.com/all_about/all_about_breast_cancer.html

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 While we do not yet know exactly what causes breast cancer, we do know that certain risk factors are linked to the disease. A risk factor is something that affects your chance of getting a disease such as cancer. Different cancers have different risk factors. Some risk factors, such as smoking, drinking, and diet are linked to things a person does. Others, like a person's age, race, or family history, can't be changed.

  

Breast cancer risk and lifestyle choices

1. Not having children or having them later in life

2. Recent use of birth control pills

3. Using post-menopausal hormone therapy (PHT):

4.Not breast-feedingSome studies have shown that breast-feeding slightly lowers breast cancer risk, especially if the breast-feeding lasts 1 1/2 to 2 years. This could be because breast-feeding lowers a woman's total number of menstrual periods, as does pregnancy

5. Alcohol

6. Being overweight or obese

7. Lack of exercise

Uncertain risk factors

1. High fat diets

2. Antiperspirants and bras

3. Abortions

4. Breast implants

5. Pollution

6. Tobacco Smoke

7. Night Work

http://www.cancer.org/docroot/cri/content/cri_2_2_2x_what_causes_breast_cancer_5.asp

我在Uncertain risk factors没有看到哺乳会导致乳癌。也没有看到cancer.org说哺乳不会导致乳癌。

How is breastfeeding related to breast cancer?

Breastfeeding can protect you against developing breast cancer. We don't know exactly how breastfeeding is protective but we know that it definitely is.

http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-questions/how-is-breast-feeding-related-to-breast-cancer

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以下这个看来没有关系,但是是和哺乳有关联的:

Pregnancy and Memory Loss
Many women report symptoms of memory loss and forgetfulness throughout their pregnancies. In fact, about 50% of pregnant women admit to episodes of absentmindedness, particularly in the third trimester. You may find your self misplacing your keys or temporarily losing your glasses; some women report missing scheduled appointments or even forgetting information that they learned just hours before. This type of memory loss is often referred to as short-term memory loss and may be the result of:

·lack of restful sleep during pregnancy (哺乳妈妈也会睡眠不足)

·trying to learn a lot of information in a short span of time 哺乳妈妈分娩后要哺乳,要照顾宝宝,很多东西要尽快学好)

·general pregnancy discomfort (哺乳妈妈面对生理上的不适,例如乳头因为哺乳姿势不正确而受伤等)

Though you may feel like you are losing your mind thanks to these scatterbrained moments, there is now evidence to the contrary. In fact, it appears that pregnant women actually gain brainpower throughout pregnancy! So ignore those momentary memory lapses, and focus on how your pregnancy is actually making you smarter!

How Pregnancy Makes You Smarter: The Study
A recent study performed at the University of Richmond and Randolph-Macon College in Virginia illustrates that pregnancy brainpower actually doesn’t decline at all during pregnancy. Neuroscientists examined the activities of pregnant mice, rats, and humans and found that all three showed significant increases in mental acuity and memory throughout pregnancy and after giving birth. Specifically, the researchers noticed that the pregnant mice and rats:

·had more energy

·were more curious

·ran mazes more quickly

·retained detailed information for longer periods of time

Human subjects in the study also showed increased brainpower. Specifically, the pregnant women showed:

·increased visual acuity

·improved sense of smell


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Why The Boost in Brain Power?
The neuroscientists involved in the pregnancy and memory study found that the
hormones released throughout the nine months of pregnancy and during breastfeeding actually contributed directly to this increase in brain power. The hormone oxytocin, which is released in large amounts during pregnancy, appeared to directly affect the structure of the brain, allowing pregnant animals to experience improved brain communication. Brain changes included:

·Increased Dendrites: Researchers reported a doubling of the number of dendrites in the pregnant animals in the study. Dendrites are the connections in the brain that allow neurons to communicate with one another. The more dendrites a person has, the better the different areas of the brain can communicate.

·Increased Glial Cells: Researchers also reported that the pregnant animals had twice the number of glial cells in their brain as non-pregnant animals. Glial cells also play a role in brain communication, acting as signal transmitters for different areas of the brain.

http://www.pregnancy-info.net/pregnancy_smarter.html

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女人怀孕时已经消耗许多体力和精力,分娩后哺乳也是会。怀孕期间很多人嘘寒问暖,分娩后哺乳宝宝时,很多人站出来反对,施加压力,劝导哺乳妈妈放弃哺乳,选择奶粉。我相信这里的哺乳妈妈都曾面对这样的问题,就算反对声浪不是来自娘家或夫家,但是也会面对外人的反对声音,例如同事、朋友、上司等。有压力了,睡眠素质不会好到哪里去,这多少也会影响记忆力,但不是永恒的。

Oxytoxin是什么?读以下的资料就知道了:

Oxytocin is a mammalian hormone that also acts as a neurotransmitter in the brain.It is best known for its roles in female reproduction: it is released in large amounts after distension of the cervix and vagina during labor, and after stimulation of the nipples, facilitating birth and breastfeeding, Recent studies have begun to investigate oxytocin's role in various behaviors, including orgasm, social recognition, pair bonding, anxiety, trust, love, and maternal behaviors.[1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxytocin


What does the Oxytocin Hormone do?

Labour & Birth

 There are a number of ways the oxytocin
hormone serves the female body. It stimulates lactation, making it possible for moms to breastfeed their children. It also is released throughout labor, and women having difficulty going into labor may have labor induced by the synthetic form of the oxytocin
hormone, called pitocin.

 It’s often wondered why any woman would endure a labor a second time, and here there may be a specific reason, due to this hormone. Even though most women will remember their labors quite well, the details may be fuzzed and perception of pain encountered can be less than was actually experienced. Though not every woman has a fantastic labor experience, and some women suffer from trauma, many women feel joyful or energetic after labor, which can be in part due to the significant reduction of cortisol at the same time oxytocin levels are increased. Interestingly, using pitocin may change labor perception because it is released differently into the body than is oxytocin.

 In humans, it is thought that this hormone helps form the bond between mothers and babies, especially if mothers breastfeed. It may be important to infants too. Some doctors feel that infants who suffer extreme neglect might be treated with the hormone in order to reduce some of the negative stressors neglect causes. There are also questions about whether oxytocin
hormone could be used to treat conditions of mental illness or possibly of autism.

    http://www.wisegeek.com/what-does-the-oxytocin-hormone-do.htm

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楼主,我这个哺乳了18个月还在哺乳的妈妈,现在就大大声的问你,你还要对妈妈们说如果宝宝可以适应喝奶粉,我还是觉得是最好的!吗?

  只是要让妈妈们比较下,能做出最完美的决定,毕竟宝宝是自己的,当然要给最好的!(楼#3)请问你在比较什么呢?母乳和配方奶粉的利与弊?以下这个才叫做比较:(比较是要把利与弊清楚的列出来)

Pros and cons of breastfeeding

http://breastfeeding.about.com/od/breastfeedingbasics/a/proscons.htm

Breastfeeding vs Formula Milk

http://www.stages-in-pregnancy.com/baby-formula.html


  妈妈们选择哺乳或配方奶粉喂养,那是妈妈的个人选择。轮不到你来告诉我们你说的那4大医生却没告诉妈妈们的坏处,那些不是医生应该从口中说的,是你自己认为医生应该这么对哺乳妈妈说,是你自己想出来认为医生没有对哺乳妈妈说的实情,简单来说,就是你自己幻想出来打给这里的妈妈看。

  我第一次看到这个帖子时,不是生气,是 。现在看了你的增长论点,我还是
,没有生气。楼主你很好笑...谢谢你来娱乐大家,有了你这个帖子,更多的妈妈对哺乳了解得更加深入。你在做秀的时候,也让哺乳妈妈们在这里留下精华的回复与资料来积功德(包括我在内)。谢谢你

  

  你和Bill Gates那么熟,连他是喝奶粉长大,不是母乳都知道,替我问候他

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偶也支持不封帖...

偶昨天成功整天都不喂奶粉给小女儿呢...她也没哭闹肚子饿..小便也一堆证明奶水足 ...
blackfish84 发表于 29-1-2010 11:19 AM



    恭喜你哦黑鱼~

你终于做到了,继续努力哦,。
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发表于 29-1-2010 03:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
非常感激藤原佐为妈妈那么热心与无私的分享
也期待着楼主搬出一些可以支持自己言论的证据

“你和Bill Gates那么熟,连他是喝奶粉长大,不是母乳都知道,替我问候他”
这句话真的笑瓜我。。。。
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