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Campro VVT engine oil适合长期用土库的黑油吗

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 楼主| 发表于 24-8-2017 03:09 PM | 显示全部楼层
patrickchin 发表于 24-8-2017 09:21 AM
我觉的Campro引擎很好。。我用到现在七年多了。。跑了230K公里了。。是不是都给我lap下6K RPM那样。。都很耐下。。毕竟我是用比较OK的黑油来保持着啦。。也有做过engine flush三次了。。engine里面的piston东西都 ...

看来warranty之后偶尔要service engine flush了,要保护好engine,问题一来就很头疼
我也觉得是唱机,antenna都安装到稳,要给accessories佬check下
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发表于 24-8-2017 08:36 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
wallace5166 发表于 23-8-2017 09:47 AM
应该不会久而久之要更换camshaft之类的parts吧,毕竟campro engine是高热引擎
现在Proton都有offer free 5年service, 有什么问题找回它们也有保障

别被迷惑,有多高热。保时捷也用30,而已。难道vvt引擎发出比它还高的热能?
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 楼主| 发表于 25-8-2017 02:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
nivekqueen 发表于 24-8-2017 08:36 PM
别被迷惑,有多高热。保时捷也用30,而已。难道vvt引擎发出比它还高的热能?

所以你的意见是长期使用30都是没问题的,懂得保养就好了??
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发表于 25-8-2017 02:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
nivekqueen 发表于 24-8-2017 08:36 PM
别被迷惑,有多高热。保时捷也用30,而已。难道vvt引擎发出比它还高的热能?

应该是高转引擎而不是高热引擎吧
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发表于 25-8-2017 03:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
wallace5166 发表于 25-8-2017 02:21 PM
所以你的意见是长期使用30都是没问题的,懂得保养就好了??

是的,机油等级也有份。用到好的机油。就算30也可以。
gtr也只是用40的机油而已。

与其担心他的粘度,不如选择更有水准的机油。
难道fully的30和 mineral的30, 保护性会一样吗?

https://cn.cari.com.my/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=3983463&extra=

你可以参考一些我上次Po的机油帖。
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发表于 25-8-2017 03:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
ShinShin@DK 发表于 25-8-2017 02:32 PM
应该是高转引擎而不是高热引擎吧

应该是,搞错了。type- R 也建议用30的机油而已,不可能高转的过type R吧
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 楼主| 发表于 25-8-2017 03:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
nivekqueen 发表于 25-8-2017 03:36 PM
是的,机油等级也有份。用到好的机油。就算30也可以。
gtr也只是用40的机油而已。

与其担心他的粘度,不如选择更有水准的机油。
难道fully的30和 mineral的30, 保护性会一样吗?

https://cn.cari.com.my/ ...

好帖,之前我有爬贴过了,觉得要用好的黑油才是关键,目前我用的原厂的,5w30 fully synthetic,目前跑了7.8k, 力水还是有的,打算试别的黑油但还有保家,没办法继续用
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发表于 25-8-2017 03:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
wallace5166 发表于 25-8-2017 03:51 PM
好帖,之前我有爬贴过了,觉得要用好的黑油才是关键,目前我用的原厂的,5w30 fully synthetic,目前跑了7.8k, 力水还是有的,打算试别的黑油但还有保家,没办法继续用

有warranty就暂时用着先吧。

其实机油不建议每次换品牌的,
http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

YOUR OPINION: A FORD ENGINEER CONTACTS CARBIBLES.COM ABOUT ADDITIVES

In 2006 I was contacted by a Ford engineer who has worked for them for 24 years. These views do not necessarily represent Ford, but it makes an interesting read nevertheless.
Some of the things in your site are true like the pure baloney that additive companies put out. I have been with Ford for 24 years in research and development for their power train division. I have forgotten more lube problems than 90% of so-called mechanics will ever know. I like the way some mechanics make statements like they're some sort of God without being able to back them up. All that mallarkey in some of the feedback above claiming 800,000 miles on a gas engine are laughable. There is so much that goes into producing engine oil that dumping "magic" additives into it is just criminal. The quality of most addatives is questionable at best. Whilst the names may be similar, the quality is not. Additives are blended at the proper rate, heat and in the proper proportions by the manufactures of their particular product. Crude supplies are not all the same quality and the additives have to be adjusted for the quality of the base stock being used by each particular company, per batch. Dumping your own personal stuff will more than likely be way inferior to what the oil manufacturer uses. The chemicals will normally differ from the manufacturers blend, and can cancel each other out to the point where there will be no anti-wear properties left in the product. (This is one reason it's not wise to mix oils from different manufacturers together). Changing the oil from say Mobil to Shell and then to Pennzoil will have a negative effect on your engine from conflicting chemicals. Buy an oil that you may like and STICK TO THAT COMPANY'S product.
What you may get away with when using Shell may cause instant havoc with Valvoline. The major oil companies work closely with the auto manufacturers so that bearing material, seal material, roller bearings, ball bearings, and all other moving parts are not adversely affected by the oil products. This is especially true for automatic transmissions. DO NOT USE SOMETHING OTHER THAN WHAT IS SPECIFIED BY THE CAR MAKER FOR YOUR AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION.
Nothing in your site mentions surface finish of the journals, cylinder walls, lobing of the crank journals, or a whole host of mechanical reasons for engine life or engine early death regardless of what oil you use. Nobody has mentioned how wear is affected by hotrodding the vehicle. I can ruin any engine and oil combination that you want to give me in a few hours or less. I can wreck a transmission in 15 minutes.
What about user abuse and manufacturing defects? Grinding a crankshaft in the wrong direction of rotation will eat up the bearings in 5 to 10 minutes. Quality control during manufacturing is the key to long engine life along with following oil- and filter-change intervals as laid out by the manufacturer in your handbook that comes with the car (that nobody reads).
From Ford's perspective, they test Mobil way more than other brand. I pushed using Mobil synthetics for transmission use to eliminate low speed hot oil low pressure and the opposite problem of high speed high pressure and cold oil drag at any speed. More power is lost from pumping torque than from bearing and piston drag. Trying to keep oil pressure up to spec when hot requires a larger pump and more R.P.M. and when things are cold the pump has very high torque and most of the oil flow is going thru the pressure relief valve back into the oil pan. Wasted horsepower; it lowers gas mileage by 20 to 30%
If it takes only 12 to 15 horsepower to move the average car 60mph. and the engine plus the transmission are using 2 to 3 extra horsepower each due to high oil drag (being too thick) you can see how the C.A.F.E. ratings would not be favorable for Ford if we did not use synthetics. Engines on new Fords come with semi-synthetics and the dealerships only use this oil. Full synthetics are still better but cost more.
Conclusion: Read, learn, and use your brain.



一个ford的工程师联络carbible作者写的文章。绝对比cari仙家说的好。


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发表于 25-8-2017 04:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
nivekqueen 发表于 25-8-2017 03:57 PM
有warranty就暂时用着先吧。

其实机油不建议每次换品牌的,
http://www.carbibles.com/additives.html

YOUR OPINION: A FORD ENGINEER CONTACTS CARBIBLES.COM ABOUT ADDITIVESIn 2006 I was contacted by  ...

问题是这里的仙家工程师多得是。。。哈哈
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