有約3千輛新加坡報廢車在大马路上行駛

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kcchiew

jack_chong 发表于 11-1-2016 09:30 AM
coe到期了车报废了或是export了需要通知lta的吧？

我查了一下，是需要通知lta的。
这样就有问题：为何大马警方会找到未报废的车？


http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/pu ... le/de-register.html

Failing to submit disposal documents of a de-registered vehicle

Offenders who fail to submit disposal documents as proof that the vehicle has been scrapped, exported, or sent to EPZ for storage, within a month from its de-registration may be prosecuted in Court, and face a maximum Court fine of $2,000 or 3 months' imprisonment. Similarly, first time offenders who are found keeping a de-registered vehicle may be prosecuted in Court, and face a maximum Court fine of $2,000 or 3 months' imprisonment.

jack_chong

kcchiew 发表于 11-1-2016 10:18 AM
我查了一下，是需要通知lta的。
这样就有问题：为何大马警方会找到未报废的车？

可能这边报废了，那边水货入口了没注册。。。

kcchiew

jack_chong 发表于 11-1-2016 10:26 AM
可能这边报废了，那边水货入口了没注册。。。

不知道。

刚看到的，说连考驾照都不用，若连驾照都可以造假，什么不能造假？ （但新加坡这边就不需要肯定自己拿的是真文件吗？ 有问题的商家应该是可以查出来的。）

（檳城10日訊）只要付上幾千令吉，不用考試就能拿駕照？不法集團在一個名為“私人考車代理、出售各種新加坡桶車”的臉書專頁公然叫賣各種駕照，聲稱民眾無需親身參加考試，付錢後3個星期即可獲得“100%正牌”駕照，即使是外國人也可拿到駕照，否則全數退款。
除了駕照，該臉書專頁還提供低價繳付交通罰單、出售新加坡桶車（複製車）等服務。為了博得顧客信任，該集團甚至把與其他顧客的對話及成交記錄截圖放上臉書，自稱信譽保證。
強調非偽品
記者今日假扮顧客，透過臉書專頁所提供的聯絡號碼找上林姓負責人。對方說，只需依據本身想要的駕照等級繳付一定的費用，並提供身份證複印件及護照人頭像，不用參加考試，3星期後就能拿到駕照。
記者問摩多與汽車駕照即D及B2是什麼價格時，對方指只需3200令吉即可承辦，不過只有柔佛州可以面交，其他州則必須通過銀行匯款交易。
見記者心存疑慮，林先生在簡訊中再三擔保，所發出的駕照是100%來自陸路交通局（JPJ）的真實執照，並不是偽品，而且在陸路交通局網站也一定會有記錄，不會面對無法更新駕照問題。
當記者進一步要求銀行賬戶時，對方似乎有所警惕，要求記者先提供所需資料後，才願意透露更多詳情。
檳沒接獲投報
檳島東北縣警區主任米奧法力助理總監指出，檳城至今都未有接獲任何有關“售賣駕照”的投報，也未曾聽聞有類似事情的發生。
儘管如此，他還是促請民眾千萬別輕易上非法集團的當，那是觸法的行為。
他說，大家都知道考取駕照必須親臨現場並通過各階段考試，不法集團聲稱無需到現場就可獲取駕照，這是絕對不可能的。
有鑑於臉書專頁強調為顧客辦理的是“100%正牌”的真駕照，絕非偽造，令人不免懷疑是否有陸路交通局官員涉及買賣駕照，本報嘗試聯絡交通部長拿督斯里廖中萊，但至截稿時間仍未取得回應，手機信息則已讀不回。
外國人也能購買 3週內可獲駕照
該臉書專頁昨日帖文，指又有兩名新顧客，聲稱農曆新年即將來臨，還沒駕照或沒時間去考的朋友，只要透過他們，在最短3週內即可獲得駕照。
記錄顯示，該臉書專頁是從去年12月29日開始活躍，至今不到2週，已獲1200個關注。
根據臉書留言內容，部份顧客是透過銀行匯款交易，該集團收到錢後協助“搞定”駕照，再郵寄給顧客。
另有售桶車
一名網民留言問：“請問駕照人要去的嗎？幾天能拿到”，對方回應：“人不用去的，看你要拿什麼駕照，普通都是3個禮拜之內”。
該集團也似乎神通廣大，聲稱即使非大馬人，他們也有辦法協助取得大馬駕照。
帖文中有不少人詢問若不是大馬人是否能照辦，對方指只需繳付較高費用就能辦妥。除了駕照，也有很多人留言說對新加坡桶車有興趣，而該集團表示會以私聊方式告知詳情。 （光明日報）

jellyfish_8

2013年 马来西亚有 22,702,221注册的车辆，可以说几乎每个国民都有一辆车，
可能是几十年的小车kancil还是豪华车悍马，几乎都是有车阶级。

SGGameLover

kcchiew 发表于 11-1-2016 09:24 AM
也许可以建议新加坡不允许少于6个月就期满的车出境。

禁驾新加坡报销车是马来西亚的法律是吗？那就应该是由马来西亚执行

kelingkia2013

SGGameLover 发表于 11-1-2016 03:30 AM
禁驾新加坡报销车是马来西亚的法律是吗？那就应该是由马来西亚执行

小新奉行自私自利的政策，遲早有報應。

kcchiew

jellyfish_8 发表于 11-1-2016 11:25 AM
2013年 马来西亚有 22,702,221注册的车辆，可以说几乎每个国民都有一辆车，
可能是几十年的小车kancil还是 ...

扣掉小孩，应该是每个成年人都有一辆车吧？

但不可能，因为若每人一辆，那些买车票搭巴士的，都不是大马人了。

kcchiew

SGGameLover 发表于 11-1-2016 11:30 AM
禁驾新加坡报销车是马来西亚的法律是吗？那就应该是由马来西亚执行

新加坡本身也需要确保自己的旧车不会变成走私货。

ya4dang1

蛇仔明 发表于 10-1-2016 03:19 AM
问题是他怎么知道有三千辆报废车?

那些應該是LTA追溯不到記錄的車輛‥本來應該「報廢」的車，不知哪些有心人出高價把它們買了轉賣‥
LTA應該是假設這些車都賣到了馬來西亞‥

報廢價太低，才讓有心人有利可圖‥

SGGameLover

kcchiew 发表于 11-1-2016 12:27 PM
新加坡本身也需要确保自己的旧车不会变成走私货。

也好，这工作就交给您了，不要让大家失望

SGGameLover

kelingkia2013 发表于 11-1-2016 11:42 AM
小新奉行自私自利的政策，遲早有報應。

不分是非黑白，你父母白养你了

jellyfish_8

ya4dang1 发表于 11-1-2016 12:32 PM
那些應該是LTA追溯不到記錄的車輛‥本來應該「報廢」的車，不知哪些有心人出高價把它們買了轉賣‥
LTA應 ...

报废价其实不低，足够让你添一点钱买新车然后每个月继续供供供供供供供供到你老没钱供为止

ya4dang1

jellyfish_8 发表于 11-1-2016 02:45 PM
报废价其实不低，足够让你添一点钱买新车然后每个月继续供供供供供供供供到你老没钱供为止

也許賣到別的市場，有更好的價錢，才有人這樣做‥

ya4dang1

kcchiew 发表于 10-1-2016 07:46 AM
(2)或那些是从关卡驾驶入大马， 有入境却没出境大马记录的数量。

我有一些疑點：

• 那要入境大馬多久不出境，才被定義為行走在大馬的報廢車？
• 一些過了一段時間沒出境的車，會被當作行走在大馬的報廢車看待嗎？
• 還是要等到擁車証過期才算？
• 在擁車証過期後都沒有出境的車，不在新加坡報廢，直接在大馬換成馬來西亞車牌，這樣做合法嗎？
  

kcchiew

SGGameLover 发表于 11-1-2016 12:43 PM
也好，这工作就交给您了，不要让大家失望

lta知道这事相当久了。。。

去年5月的新闻：

Not many people in Singapore are all that aware of how to de-register a vehicle, a task usually left to car agents.

De-registration is the process of taking a car off the road, by either scrapping it for its metal, or applying for it to be shipped to another country.

But, as one car owner found out recently, the de-registration scheme can be illegally circumvented by individuals out to make a quick buck.

Last month, Mr John Lim (not his real name) wanted to de-register his 14-year-old car a year before its certificate of entitlement (COE) was due to expire. He also had his eye on a new model, but soon realised that he did not have the cash to buy the new car.

When he explained his predicament to the car agent, Mr Lim was surprised that the agent had a solution.

Said Mr Lim, who needed $6,000 to pay off the loan on his 14-year-old car, which had a renewed COE: "When I told my agent the problem, he said he could help me by selling the car in Malaysia.

"He took down all the information about my old car, such as the date of manufacture and colour, and told me he would revert to me in a day or two."

Three days later, the agent called Mr Lim and told him someone in Malaysia would be interested in buying his car at the right price.

A few days later, Mr Lim and his agent drove the car to Johor Bahru and met the Malaysian car agent at a resale car mart near Taman Sentosa.

"I left the car there and returned with (my agent) in his car. He told me that he would settle everything with regards to de-registering the car.

"But, I noticed that when he left my car in Malaysia, he removed the road tax disc from the car."

The next day, the car dealer completed the prescribed form and the car was deregistered with the Land Transport Authority (LTA) through the appointed scrap yard. A few days later, the agent paid Mr Lim.

And Mr Lim is not alone.

A 45-year-old primary school teacher who declined to be named said he was made a similar offer by his resale car agent.

"It was a perfect solution. I needed the money to pay off my loan and wanted to buy a new car. But, I did not have much cash to pay off my loan," he said. "But, my car dealer said that he could sell my car in Malaysia and that solved all my problems. I assumed that everything was above board."

Several resale car agents and industry watchers Today spoke to say that this practice has been going on for quite some time.

When an owner de-registers a car, all he has to produce to the LTA is a form, stamped by a scrap yard operator to prove that the car has been sold off as scrap.

According to the LTA website, there are five appointed scrap yards in Singapore.

Officials at two of the scrap yards Today spoke to admitted they were aware that cars meant to be scrapped were being sold in Malaysia.

And several agents Today spoke to, who have been taking resale cars across to Malaysia, said that they have "been getting help" from the scrap yard operators, allowing them to certify that a car has been scrapped.

While they declined to go into details, industry sources told Today that scrap yard operators are paid a commission to "de-register" cars to be sold in Malaysia.

According to another car agent who has been exporting cars to Malaysia in this manner, the transaction is a "matter of trust" between the agents and the scrap yard operators.

He said: "The scrap yards know what we are doing, and so far, everything has been okay. This is just one way for us to make some extra money, especially now that the resale car market is so bad."

A short trip across the causeway proved there is indeed a demand for cars from Singapore.

Three resale car agents in Johor Bahru admitted they had bought Singapore-registered cars from resale agents in Singapore.

But they claimed that they were not aware that the cars were possibly being brought into Malaysia without the necessary paperwork.

They also claimed that they were only making the purchases for their friends in other parts of Malaysia.

Said an agent, who runs a business near Johor Bahru's Taman Petaling: "Sometimes we get calls from Kuala Lumpur or Seremban from other agents.

"They may ask for a particular model. The Proton Wira and Toyota Camry are most in demand.

"Most cars which are available in Singapore are also available in Malaysia and there is not much variation to the cars. A Mercedes Benz 200 in Singapore is exactly the same as a Mercedes Benz 200 in Malaysia.

"So, my job is just to ask my car agent friends in Singapore whether a particular model is available. If it is, then we agree on a price and they bring it here."

He said that owners whose vehicles have been destroyed in accidents usually buy cars in this way.

He explained: "They claim the insurance for the car — which could be up to $40,000 — and then they spend just $4,000 to $5,000 to purchase a used car from Singapore of the same model as the one which has been damaged.

"They then refurbish the car and change the chassis number and, when it is ready, they just use the Malaysian road tax disc. No one can spot the difference and, in the end, it is the insurance company which loses out."

In response to queries from Today, an LTA spokesman said that the matter was being investigated and that the LTA "constantly monitors the procedures for the de-registration of vehicles to ensure that the process is efficient", adding that "we will make changes to it as and when necessary".

It said that anyone who makes a false declaration in relation to such applications could be prosecuted under Section 129(1)(a) of the Road Traffic Act, where he could face a fine not exceeding $5,000, imprisonment for a term not exceeding 12 months, or both.- TODAY

jack_chong

ya4dang1 发表于 11-1-2016 03:02 PM
我有一些疑點：

那要入境大馬多久不出境，才被定義為行走在大馬的報廢車？

驾一辆烂车进来新加坡然后换一辆宝马回去行得通吗？

ya4dang1

jack_chong 发表于 11-1-2016 04:04 PM
驾一辆烂车进来新加坡然后换一辆宝马回去行得通吗？

那是犯法的，車主難辭其咎‥

卖华＄发達

蛇仔明 发表于 10-1-2016 02:26 PM
好久没有回国了。祖国近年来真的那么繁荣吗?

有新聞有真相。。。