制作Dynamic网页的价钱(PHP, ASP等)

原帖由 hui_wooi 于 31-7-2006 11:48 PM 发表

不错的价钱嘛。


这就是最典型收底价，然后剥削自己员工的公司。

有同感， 觉得好痛苦！！！！

hui_wooi

原帖由 Calverstine 于 1-8-2006 12:21 AM 发表


有同感， 觉得好痛苦！！！！

为自己设定一个目标吧，好好学习，一年后跳槽。
我有一些朋友也是这样。跳槽前后的薪水相差100%！

白痴中的天才

如果本身没有电脑科学的文凭，没有正式学过programming和cert的，市场上是不是有人会相信呢？

就如我本身是电子工程系的学生，但对网页开发有极大的兴趣，也掌握了php和mysql，有时间会再研究java，ASP和J2ME等等，都是自学的。。如果有机会以后希望可以partime赚些外快。。

[ 本帖最后由 白痴中的天才 于 14-8-2006 12:01 AM 编辑 ]

8years

原帖由 Calverstine 于 31-7-2006 09:50 PM 发表
我公司的制度：
-multi level content management system 600-800 不等
-product catalog + back end product management module - 1.5k - 2k 不等
-news / events / announcement / promotion /activities po ...

for me this is standard price, this should be the market price. If 6K then too expensive, i can do all the same thing with less than 3K, to had a website is just 1-2days time excluding design and picture, programming site is always copy and paste only.

as long as we can show our client we can do programming, they dont really care you had cert or not.

my company www.abcd.com.my

exiang

原帖由 Calverstine 于 31-7-2006 09:50 PM 发表
我公司的制度：
-multi level content management system 600-800 不等
-product catalog + back end product management module - 1.5k - 2k 不等
-news / events / announcement / promotion /activities po ...

如果不用 OPEN SOURCE 的COMPONENT, 那便是真的做死人。
但这里使用 OPEN SOURCE COMMUNITY 的 CODE 的公司/人，懂得回馈的真的很少。

同时，做得出合作得好是两回事。
赚快钱的CODE 有几乱便有几乱，STRUCTURE 也不必管的, 下个MANTAINE 的人便死了。
顾客通常都是看不出的，只注重表面等……　贪小便宜的人往往都会吃亏。

[ 本帖最后由 exiang 于 22-8-2006 01:28 PM 编辑 ]

8years

hahaha, becaue as you sais open source, many things really copy paste only, where really need to do coding?? coding part is just on integration only. for us, with our experience and template, we can had very comprehensive database application ready in one week (not include design). Database can be 1 to many, many to many table design, display, edit, add, delete, user control, display and etc. of course, not to said we cincai do, we even had all the security measure to prevent sql injection or cross site attach and etc. all this because we already had good design framework, so rapid developement using ready-make framework for us is very simple. if anybody are php programmer then you will know what is rapid developing. Example do a shopping cart website application just in one day.....
Well, future more, some even free download with all the feature ready. This is what we call Open Source, so are you still using asp.net???

* i am vb.net asp.net programmer before this.

[ 本帖最后由 8years 于 22-8-2006 03:37 PM 编辑 ]

max5007

原帖由 8years 于 22-8-2006 03:26 PM 发表
hahaha, becaue as you sais open source, many things really copy paste only, where really need to do coding?? coding part is just on integration only. for us, with our experience and template, we ca ...

楼上的，你是说像你们公司的WEBSITE这样用类似MAMBO酱的TEMPLATE来开发的吗？哈哈。。

asp.net也可以做到。。如果customize web based application你们就做不到了。。如server monitoring system 用来monitor linux,sun,or windows server的，这需要用到snmp的。

8years

well, mambo for me is just basic system, we dont use that for template. once you join open source more, then you will know how many system in the world is free and without you need to program with asp.net.
server monitoring system we can use java or php to develope, anyway, we open source support linux and windows platform, server monitoring system also many ready-make and free to download WITH SOURCE CODE. php use apache, java use tomcat, still can do. just download ready make and modified as we want, simple as that, hahaha
sample:
http://sourceforge.net/search/?t ... r+monitoring+system

max5007

但你会下OSS的，然后卖给人吗？ 在FRESHMEAT。NET那里也有很多OSS的。

8years

emm, just to add for clearness. we dont really 100% copy paste, we understanding coding and modified and became our templete, then future only we copy paste to create each function. Meaning any function you want to create there is source code for you to download and its free.

i had to admit php still not support many things like java or asp.net example is the com object in vb.ent or asp.net, but for normal web database web application that we see everyday is more than enough.

goatstudio

原帖由 8years 于 22-8-2006 05:59 PM 发表
well, mambo for me is just basic system, we dont use that for template. once you join open source more, then you will know how many system in the world is free and without you need to program with  ...

无可否认, 开源的世界提供了更多的选择. 这是开源的好处之一.
只是一直看着你的贴下去, 把 asp.net 和 php 这样比较是不恰当的.
ASP.NET 能做的不只限于 template 和简单的东西, 大型项目里你不能单单只做一些 web 控件, 就好象在实际环境里没人用 tomcat 来做 J2EE server 一样.

另外, 你说的
Well, future more, some even free download with all the feature ready. This is what we call Open Source, so are you still using asp.net???

OSS -> MODIFY -> 卖出去

这是开源的精神吗?

8years

ah, this is part of the real meaning of open source. But open source just provide us a good place to learn all feature we want. example we want to use asp.net to write dms system, where should we start? which book to buy? where can we get reference? is hard for me last time to search for reference. all asp.net reference or com or anything need to pay money.
but with open source, we had alot idea and source code ready for you to learn. and we will get many reference too. I do agree asp.net more powerful than php now on day. But for our title here what is the price to charge for web application, i just want to tell that what is the reason behind others can quote low price to get the project.

anyway, there is alot company nowonday tell customer system free but charge customize fees, train fees and service fees, they are using this method to earn money. For me, all the template i write myself, we download open source for reference only. I also mean that for some web application, if we are lazy, we can just download and modified abit to sell to customer. Open source got many type of license, some are allow you to modified some not.

belon_cfy

原帖由 8years 于 22-8-2006 06:29 PM 发表
ah, this is part of the real meaning of open source. But open source just provide us a good place to learn all feature we want. example we want to use asp.net to write dms system, where should we s ...

可以尊重一下Cari吗??? 这里是中文论坛

[ 本帖最后由 belon_cfy 于 22-8-2006 10:32 PM 编辑 ]

8years

哈哈，对不起，我的中文打字太慢了，每办法就用英文