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第2批大马海军SGPV开始筹备建造了 ....

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发表于 31-1-2013 08:33 PM | 显示全部楼层
話說SGPV好像用上了不少原來Lekiu Batch 2計劃的系統。

Lekiu Batch 2.jpg

同樣是Bofors Mk 3 57公厘快炮、SMART-S Mk2雷達、兩門MSI 30公厘機砲、MM40 Block 3反艦飛彈等,Lekiu Batch 2的防空飛彈則是24枚ESSM。當時兩艘Lekiu Batch 2的總價約6億英鎊,由英國BAE System旗下的Clydeside Shipyard協助下在馬來西亞沙巴州的納閩造船工程公司(Labuan Shipbuilding and Engineering,LSE)建造。

以目前事後的眼光來看,當時放棄2艘應該不到2500噸的Lekiu Batch 2計劃集中資源搞好現在的6艘2750噸SGPV,應該算是一個恰當的決定吧?Lekiu Batch 2和SGPV計劃實有重疊之處。
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 楼主| 发表于 7-3-2013 01:13 AM | 显示全部楼层
DCNS最新的视频, 几乎就是大马的订的Gowind

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发表于 8-3-2013 02:36 PM | 显示全部楼层
MARK-II 发表于 30-1-2013 10:19 PM
你的假設有一定的道理,若海陸空同時使用Mica, 需求量將是非常大,技術轉移和成立生產線已是必然。
但我 ...

老看到你提LY80,不知道为什么你这么喜欢?

还有便携式防空导弹,不过前几天FN6在叙利亚表现还不错,这个马来西亚好像有吧
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发表于 8-3-2013 07:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
hel_zh 发表于 8-3-2013 02:36 PM
老看到你提LY80,不知道为什么你这么喜欢?

还有便携式防空导弹,不过前几天FN6在叙利亚表现还不错,这 ...


我看过一家本地报章提过LY80
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发表于 8-3-2013 11:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
hel_zh 发表于 8-3-2013 02:36 PM
老看到你提LY80,不知道为什么你这么喜欢?

还有便携式防空导弹,不过前几天FN6在叙利亚表现还不错,这 ...

有没有相关新闻?
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发表于 9-3-2013 12:06 AM | 显示全部楼层
RSSFORMIDABLE 发表于 8-3-2013 11:17 PM
有没有相关新闻?

YOUTUBE上视频都有!
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发表于 9-3-2013 12:52 AM | 显示全部楼层
hel_zh 发表于 8-3-2013 02:36 PM
老看到你提LY80,不知道为什么你这么喜欢?

还有便携式防空导弹,不过前几天FN6在叙利亚表现还不错,这 ...


很像是FN-6


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发表于 9-3-2013 01:18 AM | 显示全部楼层
Boilwater 发表于 9-3-2013 12:52 AM
很像是FN-6

肯定是FN6,造型独特的,只此一家。
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发表于 9-3-2013 12:20 PM | 显示全部楼层
RSSFORMIDABLE 发表于 30-1-2013 12:42 PM
如果法方提出转移VL MICA技术,同时让我们大量生产MICA ,那就没有问题
好过美国的军售,限制多多
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我们又不是象换步枪那样需要买几万支。谈什么转移技术大量生产??
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发表于 9-3-2013 06:41 PM | 显示全部楼层
steven268h 发表于 9-3-2013 01:18 AM
肯定是FN6,造型独特的,只此一家。


打武直pass了,不知道打战机成吗。。。
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发表于 9-3-2013 10:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
hel_zh 发表于 8-3-2013 02:36 PM
老看到你提LY80,不知道为什么你这么喜欢?

还有便携式防空导弹,不过前几天FN6在叙利亚表现还不错,这 ...

為填補防空火力空白,我國急需引入中程防空導彈系統,LY-80值得考慮,發射車能載6枚垂直發射導彈,而俄羅斯BUK-M2E只有4枚。LY-80可能比俄羅斯的便宜。

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 楼主| 发表于 18-4-2013 03:30 PM | 显示全部楼层
正式采购57mm火炮

BHIC Bofors Asia Sdn Bhd, the joint venture between Boustead Heavy Industries and BAE Systems (Bofors Asia), created in 2004, is set to benefit following the award to BAE Systems of a sub-contract for the sale of six 57mm Mk 3 naval guns for the Royal Malaysian Navy in a deal worth approximately RM175m.

The contract ‘letter of award’ was granted to BAE Systems during LIMA 2013 by the systems integrator, Contraves Advanced Devices, which is a joint venture between Boustead Heavy Industries and Rheinmetall Air Defence AG.

The 57mm naval gun, designed by BAE Systems in Karlskoga, Sweden, will equip the Malaysian Navy’s Second Generation Patrol Vessel – Littoral Combat Ships (SGPV-LCS). The contract includes ammunition hoists, simulator and initial support.

The 57mm Mk 3 naval gun with stealth cupola is already fitted on the Royal Swedish Navy Visby class stealth corvettes. Like on the Visby class, the stealth cupola will greatly contribute to lower the stealth signature of the Malaysian Gowind corvettes. An engineer from BHIC Bofors Asia SDN. BHD. told us during LIMA 2013 that the shape of the stealth cupola for the Gowind Corvettes will slightly differ from the one found on the Visby class to maximize the stealth characteristics of the corvette designed by DCNS



A representative from BAE Systems Bofors informed us that the stealth variant of the 57 Mark 3 can fully utilize the 3P ammunition and this type of ammunition will be delivered to the Royal Malaysian Navy as part of the deal.

The 6-mode programmable 40 and 57 mm Bofors 3P (for Pre-fragmented, Programmable, Proximity fused) ammunition can be programmed in six different function modes to provide optimised effect against any aerial, surface or shore target. This provides weapon systems with the highest possible combat flexibility.

Each 3P fuse is automatically and individually programmed by a Proximity Fuse Programmer which continuously receives data from the Fire Control Computer System. Immediately before firing, the fuse is programmed to the selected mode. This time function makes it possible to engage concealed targets or manoeuvring speedboats that cannot be engaged with direct fire. The time function is used to create airbursts over the target area. The 57 Mark3/Mk110 with its 120 ready to fire, 4 rounds per second (220 rounds/minute) rate of fire, together with the shell’s large number of high-velocity/high-density fragments gives a devastating effect against targets like helicopters hovering behind treetops, rocks, sand dunes, concealed troops onshore and other targets that cannot be combated with direct fire. This function can also be used together with the gun's area covering burst pattern function to engage small, fast, manoeuvring speedboats.


3P fuze function modes              Targets
Gated proximity function  - Air targets
Gated proximity function with impact priority  - Air targets, large/frontal protected targets
Time function (Airburst function)  - peed boats and concealed onshore targets including attack helicopters
Impact function  - Surface/shore targets
Armour piercing function  - Armoured surface/shore targets
Proximity function  - Air targets


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 楼主| 发表于 18-4-2013 03:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
Boustead正式透露Gowind再次升级到3000吨等级,全部在大马制造,在Cyberjaya组装战斗系统,大马工程师在法国DCNS一起做做最后的设计。就等政府何时签约。(3000吨了,好高兴啊,希望最后8cell VLS也升级到16cell)

http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/malaysia-becomes-dcns-1st-customer-for-gowind-ships-07272/
Meanwhile Boustead Heavy Industry Corporation (BHIC) Director of Defence & Security Division director Anuar Murad says that they’re still working on the Letter of Award with the Ministry of Defense for the overall ship, which he refers to as a full frigate that has grown to 3,000t. The ships will be built entirely in Malaysia, and even the combat system will be assembled in Cyberjaya. DCNS will act as Design Authority, and services have been bought for basic design work in France, with Malaysian engineers working alongside them in France to finalize the design. DCNS will also provide advisory services around project management and combat system integration.

Secondary suppliers are already receiving contracts from BHIC, and first-of-class delivery is estimated as 2018-2019, depending on how quickly they can get a contract signed.


http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=999

It was confirmed during LIMA that the combat management system will be the SETIS by DCNS, the Fire Control Systems will be provided by Rheinmetall, and the engines will be provided by MTU. The design seems to have increased in size with the length of the LCS now at 111 meters (compared to 107 as previously reported) with a displacement of about 3,000 tons (compared to full load displacement of 2,730 tonnes as previously announced).
Integrated with SETIS, a combat system derived from FREMM class Frigates, Gowind Combat can tackle air, surface and submarine threats. The shock-resistant platform (built according to military standards), the small radar cross-section together with an excellent acoustic signature makes it a high-performance surface combatant.





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发表于 18-4-2013 04:45 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 18-4-2013 03:38 PM
Boustead正式透露Gowind再次升级到3000吨等级,全部在大马制造,在Cyberjaya组装战斗系统,大马工程师在法国 ...

3000噸的話就和新加坡3200噸的可畏級相差不遠了。但希望從2750噸小漲250噸至3000噸,造價不會水漲船高~
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 楼主| 发表于 18-4-2013 05:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 18-4-2013 04:45 PM
3000噸的話就和新加坡3200噸的可畏級相差不遠了。但希望從2750噸小漲250噸至3000噸,造價不會水漲船高~

3000吨就算是中型护卫舰了, 其中差别就在垂直导弹了可畏級是32VLS, 希望大马Gowind升级到3000吨后垂发也升级到32 cell VLS (勉强16 Cell吧), 估计导弹至少会升级到Aster 15/30吧,别Mica VL了. 如果换MK41/56+ESSM就更完美了。 估计价钱不变吧。
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发表于 18-4-2013 05:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
waja2000 发表于 18-4-2013 05:32 PM
3000吨就算是中型护卫舰了, 其中差别就在垂直导弹了, 可畏級是32VLS, 希望大马Gowind升级到3000吨后垂 ...

排水量增加250~270噸,艦長增加4公尺,我也認為應該是為了增加VLS數量,希望32管VLS能得以實現!不過首艦預計要到2018年才能交付就真的等太久了~

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 楼主| 发表于 18-4-2013 07:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
detectivebinbin 发表于 18-4-2013 05:49 PM
排水量增加250~270噸,艦長增加4公尺,我也認為應該是為了增加VLS數量,希望32管VLS能得以實現!不過首艦 ...

里面都写了,就等和政府完成签约,才能肯定交付时间 ... (假如大选失利纷纷钟延迟很多年或取消呢)
当然因大马自己建造,工业基础弱很多,当然要花更长时间准备, 各种模具, 钢板切割...
由于也是首款+3000吨Gowind, 没有现成零件,需要很多时间准备的...
如果法国建造应会快1年吧

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发表于 21-4-2013 10:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
2700级的护卫舰,才装8个VLS,真的有点令人失望啊。。
造价方面也有点贵。。
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 楼主| 发表于 21-4-2013 11:11 PM | 显示全部楼层
嫦娥三号 发表于 21-4-2013 10:53 PM
2700级的护卫舰,才装8个VLS,真的有点令人失望啊。。
造价方面也有点贵。。

价钱是包括全部配套,属于反潜型,完整的CAPTAS主/被動拖曳陣列聲納系统
其他包括武器,导弹,系统,训练,维修配套估计是5年,甚至模拟器.
8个VLS的的确很失望, 希望最终的设计有增加
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发表于 22-4-2013 12:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
嫦娥三号 发表于 21-4-2013 10:53 PM
2700级的护卫舰,才装8个VLS,真的有点令人失望啊。。
造价方面也有点贵。。


如果买FREMM就完美了
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