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发表于 6-5-2007 08:08 AM
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回复 #68 TanYikChuan 的帖子
希望forum不是用来吵架的。。。
我不明你为何会如此恨MLM
啊啊啊 。。。你當然不明 , 真的不會明 。。。你有在CARI論壇爬畢我所有的貼嗎
如果沒有, 這只是你自己斷章取義的個人猜測
我從沒有反對MLM , 更不會如你歪曲事實說“如此恨MLM”
GMP有2种
- Food grade GMP 和 Pharmaceutical GMP
而 most food supplement company usally apply food grade GMP (As u say)
ＮＯＴ ｐｈａｒｍａｃｅｕｔｉｃａｌ ＧＭＰ （pls take note)
~~ lazy to use chinese
對了, 這便是美國FDA的GMP。。。
在美國, FDA只要求美國所售賣的Health Foods和Dietary Supplements符合food-model GMP (Medicines和Drugs才要符合pharmaceutical-model GMP)
U公司也拿不到FDA的認証(FDA只提供guidelines, 而不是做認証的組織)
M公司所提出的論據是, 在美國售賣的保健產品為何不參照美國的準則？ (就因為Comparative Guide編者是加拿大人, 所以選用加拿大standard  !)
那麼, U公司要在中國開拓市場, 為甚麼又不考慮用中國GMP  ？
As USANA company since started already apply GMP, they r qualify for at least 3 country GMP with same factory (Never had a company do so, becos too costly)
NSF is another GMP that we certified, so it show the potent n quality of the product AGAIN!!
So What ! GMP只是生產標準, 拿了認証代表產品生產過程獲得認可, 包括原料品質來源, 產品製程及其品質監控程序等等, 符合標準生產規程, 但這並不代表(藥物)產品的“效用”獲得驗證 。。。請不要誤導消費者   :@
換句話說, 用了更嚴緊的“生產”標準, 並不代U公司產品的效用一定會更好！ 如果效能是相對提高致藥物水平(效用如medicines/drugs), 各地的醫療醫院已可能大量購入, U公司也沒有必要以MLM的銷售保健產品為收入主要來源咯
回你的贴只是认为你在ｇｉｖｅ ｗｒｏｎｇ ｉｎｆｏｒｍａｔｉｏｎ！！！
你每到一个贴都发疯的骂人，我只是认为多一个朋友好过多一个敌人，对吗？
啊啊啊。。。好像閣下才是give wrong information說我“每到一个贴都发疯的骂人” 。。。
指我“恨MLM”和“發瘋罵人”之留言, 請省回, 這只會証明閣下是窮詞對事 。。。努力替你的公司和伙伴找資料回應吧
[ 本帖最后由 TerryOK 于 6-5-2007 08:16 AM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 7-5-2007 12:18 PM
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原帖由 TanYikChuan 于 4-5-2007 11:53 AM 发表
如果你是认真的要明白多一点的话，
你因该ｍａｋｅ ａｎ ａｐｐｏｉｎｔｍｅｎｔ ｗｉｔｈ ａ ｕｓａｎａ ｄｉｓｔｒｉｂｕｔｏｒ
在ｆｏｒｕｍ很难ｃｏｍｍｕｎｉｃａｔｅ ｌａｈ
 :l ...
你是個很奇怪的人...
我知道你在做USANA,你似乎自己也很害怕聽到質疑USANA的東西出來，
所以才會叫人家不要吵!
拜託...你把USANA當耶穌來信嗎?
全世界的人都不能質疑它? 只能看它正面的，不能看負面的?
太可笑了,你似乎已經承認別人對USANA的指控都是正確的，你要我們假假看不到,因為成功的人是不看負面的!
可憐的愚忠的人! 可能你投機了很對錢在USANA，所以你已走投無路了，一定要跟它共進退。
問Distributer? 他們很多都是無知的人，問來做甚麼?
我認識到很多都是想賺快錢的人，他們拿幾個公司宣稱的東西來做號召，
最主要目的是因為他們以為雙線制度能讓他們賺快錢和不勞而獲!
兩個禮拜前有個人公開的辦了場USANA說明會，我記得他說:
" USANA 在美國上市股票到現在都一直節節上升，哈哈..如果你們之前有買到的，現在應該賺到笑了吧!!!"
你說這些distributers是不是白癡來的?
USANA股票上兩個月開始狂洩他們甚麼都不知道...找他們出來談鬼嗎?
用屁股想都知道，那些無知的Distributers完全搞不懂事情的來龍去脈，
他們只會隨便說是人家冤枉啊，其他直銷公司打壓，或者是別人妒嫉他們公司的成功!!!
事實是，他們甚麼都不知道!!!!!! 他們不會客觀的解釋，只因為他們做USANA，
所以他們一定要錯的也要講到對!
就算法律判USANA錯，他們還是會質疑法律而不是質疑USANA....
這就是包庇!!!!
USANA distributers 很多是縮頭烏龜來的，只會叫別人不要吵，掩耳盜鈴，
之前已經來搞宣傳的甚麼6-4-2, 甚麼李老師的那群人，現在怎麼都躲起來了?
還是已經換公司了?
對我來說, USANA的很多Distributers 跟這裡的那些被政府blacklist的每天傻傻等錢來遲早被抓的網賺者一樣，都是想甚麼都不做卻要快速致富的投機者，沒腦袋!
現在的年輕人真的很糟糕，不會思考，我告訴你去做刮刮樂能致富，你相信嗎?
這些快速致富跟刮刮樂的經營手法其實沒有多大分別!
[ 本帖最后由 5212003 于 7-5-2007 12:36 PM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 7-5-2007 10:53 PM
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一位colleage student分析U公司的文章。。。個人意見是一篇中肯的文章
http://biz.yahoo.com/seekingalpha/070507/34625_id.html?.v=1
全文內容：
http://shadunskymethod.blogspot.com/2007/05/usana-fraud-usna.html
。。。也節錄了部份重點, 讓大家参考
Is USANA Health Sciences a Fraud?
by Alex Shadunsky
Saturday, May 5, 2007
USANA (NasdaqGS: USNA) is a health and beauty company. It produces, researches, and sells health and beauty products mostly through a Multi-Level Marketing operation (direct selling). Its growth has been phenomenal and it has been publicly traded since 1992...
When I read about and watched a YouTube video of how USANA has supposedly lied to new associates about the money they can make, I just thought to myself of all the same schemes or businesses my friends/associates throughout the years have offered me. Some lie, some just only talk about the positives, no one ever talks about the negative aspects and how tough it actually is to make it as an associate and make a lot of money (for Usana, the top 3% of distributors make 70% of the commissions). When I did ask a question about the risk involved, there is a change of topic or somehow the question is not answered. If the new associate/distributor does its own research or actually thinks about what it's being told, there would be a lot less people signing up...
There obviously is an issue with USANA's MLM, but I think it will pass, it is just temporary negativity...
The negativity this company is currently experiencing is tremendous. The stock price is definitely displaying it, some of it is definitely unwarranted. The issues I am worried about are its products, some of which do not support its claims and which are much more expensive than comparable products for other brands...
I would avoid this stock for now and wait to see what happens to its sales, earnings, and margins in a full quarter after the accusations...
Disclosure: I don't have a position in USNA. |
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发表于 15-5-2007 08:34 AM
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发表于 22-5-2007 09:49 PM
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USANA - MSI
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在昨天我看到一贴有关USANA-MSI TEAM. 看了很有兴趣！但今天找不到这个贴。请发贴人联络我。yangguomy@yahoo.com |
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发表于 6-6-2007 12:01 AM
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多事之秋的 Medical Advisory Board 。。。
一不離二, 不久的將來或許有更多類似事件再出現
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB118100409012124461.html?mod=yahoo_hs&ru=yahoo
Usana Sales Associate
Quits Advisory Board
A prominent sales associate for Usana Health Sciences Inc. quit the company's medical advisory board
after a private investigator cast doubt on his medical credentials.
The incident was the latest in a series of credentials issues for Usana, a Salt Lake City vitamins maker
that has grown rapidly but is facing much investor skepticism following a March report .
[ 本帖最后由 TerryOK 于 6-6-2007 12:04 AM 编辑 ] |
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发表于 12-6-2007 03:25 AM
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Usana马来西亚开幕大典
享誉直销界的USANA在马来西亚开拓了第14个国际市场。想亲自了解它为何迅速崛起，并于短短几个月时间内在马来西亚创下优良业绩吗？
可能你在物色一家值得长期经营的直销事业，或在寻寻觅觅，寻找适合自己发展的公司。何不乘这个机会，亲自看看海内外的专业人士，分享他们的创业心得？这不是一个挖角或招会员的场合，而是让你自己来作判断，它是不是值得你来发展的一份事业！
6月23日，星期六，晚上8点开始开幕大典。想获取入场券的朋友可以pa我，只剩10张，先到先得！与自己购票不同的是，我们特别安排了参观团，带领你畅游usana大马总公司，并由全球十大收入的董事亲自分析整个直销创业的趋势。之后更为你导航，带领你进入KLCC KL CONVENTION ＨＡＬＬ的大会现场专属位子观看盛大的开幕大典！赶快行动哦！ |
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发表于 12-6-2007 09:17 AM
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发表于 12-6-2007 10:35 AM
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谣言止于智者，任何疑问无任欢迎，到时候务必亲自解答。对于所指的传闻，树大招风是其中一个导因，哪个娱乐圈的当红阿哥阿姐谁没有绯闻？最后还不是不攻自破？
我们不会在论坛上纸上谈兵，或对这个课题一知半解的人辩解，而会对真正关心这家公司或这份事业的朋友亲自剖析事情的来龙去脉。 |
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发表于 12-6-2007 11:04 AM
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原帖由 eddyteo 于 12-6-2007 10:35 AM 发表
谣言止于智者，任何疑问无任欢迎，到时候务必亲自解答。对于所指的传闻，树大招风是其中一个导因，哪个娱乐圈的当红阿哥阿姐谁没有绯闻？最后还不是不攻自破？
我们不会在论坛上纸上谈兵，或对这个课题一知半 ...
跟某公司很像的解说..... |
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发表于 13-6-2007 12:47 AM
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发表于 13-6-2007 09:24 AM
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這公司還有甚麼是可信的  。。。
U公司的CFO也如此 , 那麼這公司的財務報告又會否有問題啊
U公司所說的資料有多少可以相信, 會否又是誇大、過時或虛假不實
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070612/usana_executive.html?.v=1
Usana CFO Not a CPA
Tuesday June 12
SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Another executive at Utah vitamin maker Usana Health Sciences Inc. has been forced to revise his credentials.
Gil Fuller, Usana's senior vice president and chief financial officer, has been described as a certified public accountant but let his license to practice public accounting lapse in 1986, long before he joined the company.
Utah authorities are investigating because state law doesn't let people call themselves a CPA unless they renew their license periodically with proof of continuing education credits.
"We're looking into it," Utah Department of Commerce spokesman Jennifer Bolton said Tuesday...
Fuller is the fourth company official to have to revise his resume recently.
Usana sales associate Ladd R. McNamara, who called himself a licensed medical doctor, quit the company's medical advisory board last week after The Wall Street Journal reported his medical license had been suspended in Georgia and Ohio.
"He had stopped practicing medicine for some time, but the important thing to remember about Ladd is he was on a non-decision making board -- really an idea board," Fuller said.
Other Usana officials have claimed degrees they didn't have.
In March, Denis Waitley resigned as a director after acknowledging he didn't have a master's degree from the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, Calif., that proxy statements claimed was his.
And Timothy Wood, vice president of research and development, changed his resume to show his Yale University doctorate was in forestry, not biology as he had claimed.
Fuller said Wood's dissertation was on a topic of biology and that he found it easier to describe his education by saying his degree was in biology... |
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发表于 16-6-2007 11:34 AM
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发表于 16-6-2007 06:47 PM
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原帖由 eddyteo 于 16-6-2007 11:34 AM 发表
反应热烈，要索票请快行动！
对对对 |
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发表于 20-6-2007 02:09 AM
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好兴奋！很多大师级人物将出现！看到自己经营的公司要开幕咯，很雀跃！捧场的朋友可真多，剩最后5张票了！要了解加盟商机的朋友更不能错过哦！ |
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发表于 21-6-2007 02:29 PM
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虽然是每个星期发佣金,但是至少没个月要花大概RM500来买产品才能保证得到那笔钱.
我只是学生啊...
哪来每个月那么多钱来买产品?
到地可不可以做呢?? |
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发表于 21-6-2007 03:01 PM
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回复 #9 开往春天的地铁 的帖子
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如果你享有佣金，表示你的业绩不错，个人销售500元其实并不难。。而且这没有强制性，有业绩才需要维持 |
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发表于 21-6-2007 11:36 PM
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发表于 22-6-2007 01:51 PM
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发表于 22-6-2007 11:40 PM
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