【2011/12英超第4轮】Stoke City 1-0 LIVERPOOL 对方暴力足球竟然一张黄卡都没有?

pig.com

副队在新的赛季至今，几乎每场都会给我们‘惊喜’。。真的是时候让位了。。。

小托雷斯

那条老carra 早就说他老了的。被他撞一撞。。差不多跌去。。

不过我们输在没运气！！

jay_loon

难道要这样？副队假假都是前辈哦。。。

利物浦后防阵容1：
Johnson    Agger   Coates    Enrique

利 ...
古仔 发表于 11-9-2011 09:33 PM

不能以辈分来衡量的～要以球队利益为重～副队除了雷纳外几乎打满全部的比赛～其他的球员都会以状态来决定上不上场～唯独他好不好都可以霸着一个首发位置

Jasonlwc

我以为你怀疑不是。。。。
點解又系我 发表于 11-9-2011 07:41 PM

我没有那么傻吧? 看就知道他是进来闹场的喇.......

渔船

要这样meh ？ 副队其实还可以踢啊，有经验又比较稳定 。。。是衰在很喜欢大脚jek 。。。
给他一个赛季啦

渔船

卡副年纪不小了，需要年轻的顶上，利记的中卫配备是MU， Chelsea， MANC，里最不稳的，means 很容易有计 ...
松子 发表于 2011-9-11 09:21 PM

对咯，就算这次队副没犯错我们一样也赢不到 。。。。
想念benayoun那有灵性又致命的传球，他的大局观decision真的很好，只可惜以前他只能打轮换的球员 。。。肥贝没用好他，他在西罕的时候已经不错了 。。。
还有以前那个死仔在的时候，有时球队踢得很烂，往往都是他打开局面。有状态的时候他可以算是世界数一数二的全能型前锋，可以一个人蹂躏整条防线。现在看他这样堕落，真是好笑，还埋怨自己的队友

GSY

不是要副队直接退下来啦， 只是不适合打首选了， 可以作为替补

knightfight

赢输乃是兵家常事，最重要是要懂得趕快爬起來。。+1

松子

对咯，就算这次队副没犯错我们一样也赢不到 。。。。  
想念benayoun那有灵性又致命的传球，他的大 ...
渔船 发表于 12-9-2011 09:31 AM

    这场比赛利记的射门是stoke的７倍，可是没有进球。 说明striker 的finishing 有问题了，suarez 基本上故掌难鸣，以前有meireles在时还会跟suarez玩配合。还有面对铁桶阵，利记的中场很乱，henderson 拿球，跑两步，回传，晕！！enrique 还会带球过人跟downing完配合。小第认为不只运气咯，其实要做的功课很多。不过也好拉，早早就看到自己本身的缺点还可以改进，知耻近乎勇，期望利记带给偶门更多的战术变化。

wavie

只不过一场比赛 就说没望夺冠未免太好笑了
赢球就说谁谁谁厉害 输球就说利记不行了 这种心态要不得
下一场 ...
koping 发表于 11-9-2011 11:40 AM

    你不能怪人认为红军没望夺冠.当你看看红魔的球赛,你就会发觉到他们比去年强了不少,以他们现在的表现,你认为他们会丢分吗?我看了他们对Bolton的比赛,看到我都冒冷汗了.....你别指望红魔象上个赛季一样在弱队丢分,其实他们现在的实力与中游队相比较多,比去年高出不少了...难道你还认为红军能够双杀红魔吗?即使能,红军在中游队丢分的机会比红魔更大...

wecan

红军首败国王赛后不纠错 唐宁叹背运得势不得分

客场0-1不敌斯托克城，利物浦遭遇新赛季首场联赛败仗。新援唐宁表示，全队的表现非常好，无奈运气不佳屡屡错失进球良机。唐宁同时透露，赛后达格利什并没有指出球队表现不足之处，而是勉励全队延续目前的状态。


                                            利物浦官网：唐宁肯定全队表现

本场比赛的唯一进球来自一个极具争议的点球，此役第21分钟，沃尔特斯在禁区内与卡拉格接触后倒地，主裁判判罚点球。主帅达格利什对这个判罚非常不满，他甚至疾呼红军开赛以来一直遭遇裁判的不利判罚。

相比于国王，唐宁上周日接受《利物浦官网》采访时要平静许多，“我认为我们踢出了很棒的足球，我们很不走运，我们创造出了很多机会，但却没能把握住。我不确定对方获得的那个点球是否应该判罚，但或许我们也应该得到一个点球。”

唐宁指的是第90分钟，苏亚雷斯和唐宁禁区右侧连续配合后杀入禁区，苏亚雷斯准备下底传中，皮球被倒地铲球的斯托克城球员用手挡出底线，但裁判拒绝判罚点球。唐宁回忆说，“我把球传给路易斯，尽管从我当时站的位置看不清，但伙计们都说对方用手阻挡皮球。这令人很沮丧，但还是要祝贺斯托克城，他们为我们制造了不小的麻烦。”

整个下半场，利物浦不断向斯托克城球门施压，但可惜得势不得分。唐宁要强调一点，全队虽然输球但表现绝对值得肯定，“主教练赛后对我们说，我们要继续保持目前的表现。我不认为我们的发挥有什么错，我们踢得非常好。”

“斯托克城的主场不好打，有时候我们踢出了漂亮足球却无法取胜，这一次就是个典型，但愿下周对热刺我们能抓住机会破门。我们现在只需要延续目前的表现，我们都很沮丧，但积极的地方在于我们创造出了机会，我们始终都坚持传球跑动，我们都在做正确的事情。我们只是很不走运，但现在我们只是需要继续做同样的事情。”

wecan

前金哨称利物浦点球确凿 批评达格利什没事找事

裁判，永远是足球领域一个说不完道不尽的话题。上周末的英超联赛中，主裁判的表现在赛后成为讨论的焦点，其中尤以利物浦和曼联的比赛为甚。昔日英格兰金哨格拉汉姆-波尔，就在《每日邮报》的专栏中为同僚辩护，称利物浦主帅达格利什没事找事，同时还认为博尔顿的前锋凯文-戴维斯并非暴徒。


                                《每日邮报》截屏：前金哨批评达格利什
      
   斯托克城与利物浦的这场比赛，当值主裁判克拉滕伯格的一些判罚成为红军主帅达格利什赛后炮轰的焦点。达格利什认为，克拉滕伯格在第20分钟判罚卡拉格禁区内拉拽沃尔特斯的那个点球，纯属无中生有。达格利什表示：“我真的看不出那样的动作可以判罚点球。我们当然非常尊重裁判，可是利物浦也应该受到足够的尊重”。

与此同时，克拉滕伯格还涉嫌漏判斯托克城的手球犯规，导致红军无法扳平比分。那是比赛的90分钟，苏亚雷斯和唐宁禁区右侧连续配合后杀入禁区，苏亚雷斯准备下底传中，皮球被倒地铲球的斯托克城后卫厄普森用手挡出底线。位置不错的助理裁判没有理睬，而克拉滕伯格也只判罚了角球。怒不可遏的苏亚雷斯甚至冲到场边抗议助理裁判的判罚，吃到黄牌。

金哨波尔对利物浦比赛中的一系列判罚作出解释：“克拉滕伯格的表现无可非议，一系列判罚都是十分精准的。首先，卡拉格在禁区内确实用左手拉拽沃尔特斯，导致后者不支倒地，这是确凿无误的犯规，判罚点球没错。另外，还有2次手球疑云。裁判是否判罚手球犯规，需要考虑后卫与对方射门球员的距离和皮球的速度等，同时还需要考虑手臂是否自然伸展。只要皮球极速飞行，那么不判罚点球是惯例。厄普森倒地封堵的那次绝非故意手球，反而是德拉普的那次手球值得商榷。达格利什与其将失利归咎于裁判，还不如批评利物浦的前锋过分挥霍机会。”

cottilion

去他妈的金哨, 手球这么明显是故意的还鸟话多多:@

二打六

对罚球很有意见　 红军主帅考虑投诉裁判不公

　（斯托克综合电）英超豪门利物浦（Liverpool）前天在客场举行的英超赛事中，以0比1败给斯托克（Stoke），领队达格利什（Dalglish）考虑投诉该场主裁判克拉滕伯格（Clattenburg）的执法标准。

　　克拉滕伯格的判罚表现，让达格利什在赛后极度感到不公正。“红军”主帅表示，将咨询老板约翰·亨利（John Henry）的意见后，才决定是否正式向职业球赛人员有限公司进行投诉。

　　克拉滕伯格在上半场判红军副队长卡拉格（Carragher）在禁区内对斯托克前锋沃尔特斯（Walters）犯规，而给主队罚球，沃尔特斯亲自操刀命中。

　　下半场，后卫厄普森（Upson）在禁区内疑似用手挡出利物浦前锋苏亚雷斯（Suarez）的传中，克拉滕伯格却拒绝判给红军罚球，导致利物浦吞下本赛季首败。

　　这并非达格利什本赛季首次感到裁判判罚不公，他准备进一步追究此事。“我们只能在自身能力范围内全力以赴，有时候事情会超出我们掌控之外。如果我们能以相同的态度和努力去踢好每场比赛，这个赛季应该不会出大问题。

　　“但如果我们一再被不能控制的因素连续打击，我们的机会就不多。”达格利什说：“本赛季的前四场联赛，我们都遇上有争议性的判罚。我们愿意尊重裁判，但更重要的是他们尊重我的球会。如果我觉得我们一直承受痛苦，或许我需要像其他人那样，循相同的管道看看能否从中获益。”

　　他还说：“我会先找老板谈话，看他们有什么说法。我最不想看到的是，因为我的言行举止而损害到球会。我会先向老板汇报，听听他们的忠告。”

二打六

红军输球怒责误判 达格利什要向裁判讨回公道


利物浦主帅达格利什觉得球队吃了本赛季的首场败仗非常冤枉。

　　利物浦在周末的英超作客以0比1不敌斯托克市队，对方唯一的进球来自于卡拉格尔（Carragher）的犯规才送给对方的罚球。在利物浦主帅达格利什（Dalglish）看来，卡拉格的动作并不明显，他觉得球队吃了本赛季的首场败仗非常冤枉。

　　达格利什赛后非常愤怒，他认为是裁判的几个关键判罚导致球队的败局。他也表示利物浦前4轮每场比赛都遭裁判的误判，要是再这样下去他将采取行动，他会向球会老板征求意见，看要怎样来向裁判讨回公道。

　　达格利什说：“我真看不出卡拉格尔的动作可以判罚球。我们当然非常尊重裁判，可是利物浦也应受到尊重， 这种尊重是相互的。让我感到震惊的是前4场比赛都有不利的误判。”

　　他也说：“我会先与老板打个招呼，看我们该怎么处理，我不希望看到我的行为最终会危害到球队。”

　　利物浦其实在该场比赛控制了全局，却因这个罚球而落败。

　　卡拉格尔赛后说：“裁判的判罚让我们感觉受到伤害。我们也至少有两次遇到可以获罚球的犯规，但裁判都没吹，他至少应给我们一个罚球。”

tkc409

对不起~我只找到英文的~

Stoke 1—0 Liverpool: The Reds Have No One to Blame but Themselves

poor Finishing. That’s the main reason Liverpool came away from Stoke City with nothing. Kenny Dalglish, the players and the fans can blame it on Mark Clattenburg’s decisions, the international break or the long grass, but at the end of the day Liverpool had 73 percent of possession and 24 shots at goal to Stoke’s three, and still couldn’t find the back of the net.

When I was growing up playing the game, one of the first things I was told was not to blame the referee. You rarely see one change their mind so you’re better off focusing on what you can control.

Liverpool had more than enough opportunities on goal to score, so I found Kenny Dalglish’s post-match comments a little bit unsporting.

    “We can only do what we can do ourselves, sometimes other things are taken out of our jurisdiction and if we continue to play like that with the same attitude and commitment we’ll be okay this season.

    But if we continually get battered by things that are out of our control then we’re not going to have much chance.

    The first four league games have all had contentious decisions in them and every one of them has gone against us. We would like to be respectful towards the referees, I think we have been respectful towards the referees but more importantly than respecting referees and their campaign, they should have respect for my football club.

    If I feel they’re suffering in any way, shape of form then I think I’ll just need to go down the same route as some other people go and see if we can get some benefift from that.”

    “Did we deserve something? It’s a wee bit of an understatement.”

Liverpool and Stoke got exactly what they deserved.

Stoke stuck to their game plan —it might not be everyone’s cup of tea but it gets results and they deserved their three points.

Liverpool might have had all the possession, played some decent football and created more than enough chances, but they failed to put those chances away and at the end of the day, that’s what counts, so they deserved nothing more.

Blaming referees and hoping penalties go their way doesn’t achieve anything and if Liverpool want to finish in the top four, they need to stop complaining and let their football do the talking.

Certain aspects of their game were below par.

For the second game in a row, Jamie Carragher was at fault for Liverpool conceding a goal and with Sebastian Coates waiting in the wings, it’s high time Kenny Dalglish seriously reconsiders the veteran’s spot in the starting 11.

Watching Charlie Adam, who was so impressive against Bolton, pass the ball in such a hit and miss fashion, really made me further question why Alberto Aquilani was moved on this summer.

Liverpool needed a player like him yesterday to unlock Stoke, even if it was just as another option off the bench.

Steven Gerrard will fill that creative void when he returns, but Liverpool will be right back where they started if he gets injured again.

Twenty-four shots and only seven on target tell a story in itself. Liverpool were wasteful.

Even Luis Suarez had an off day in front of goal, spurning the best chance of the match late on.

Andy Carroll was hardly anyone's first choice replacement for Torres, but I really expected him to offer at least a little bit more than he has so far.

Admittedly, he wasn’t awful when he came on, but he didn’t really do anything either, and we certainly didn’t look any more likely to score with him there.

Aside from that, there were a few positives.

Liverpool dominated possession, created chances and passed the ball reasonably well.

Downing and Enrique were again dangerous, Lucas was solid, Bellamy looked threatening and Luis Suarez did his best to create something every time he got the ball.

However, the Uruguayan was contained reasonably well by Stoke, and when he can’t fire on all cylinders Liverpool just seem to lack that something special to unlock exactly these kind of stubborn defences.

After Begovic and Stoke’s defenders kept out three shots from Jordan Henderson, one from Charlie Adam and another from Luis Suarez, all in a matter of seconds, you had the feeling that it just wasn’t going to be Liverpool’s day.

The manager, players and fans can blame the referee, the long grass or the international break, but at the end of the day the only reasons Liverpool lost were because their players failed to capitalize on their complete domination, and Stoke were fiercely determined not to sacrifice their lead.

There’s no doubt Dalglish was frustrated, but lame excuses don’t do anything other than make Liverpool look like sore losers.

Perhaps it would have been better to accept it wasn’t our day, and instead of spending all his time and energy making an official complaint to the FA, Dalglish should have his team spend the week doing a little shooting practice.

It certainly couldn’t do any harm.

tkc409

Reina-—was only called into action on the penalty, but there was not much he could do about Walter’s rocket down the middle.  Had one cross and one save to deal with and handled each with aplomb.  Grade 6.5

Carragher—had a good game, particularly being tasked with the tricky Peter Crouch.  Was caught out, however, by a simple ball over the top to Walters, and even though the penalty decision was harsh, for a second straight game finds himself responsible for the opponent’s sole tally.  His tactical awareness remains top class, but with the erosion of his physical skills continuing to prove a liability, it can’t be much longer before he makes way for Sebastian Coates.  Grade 5.5

Skrtel (Johnson 81’)—started at right back in place of the injured Martin Kelly and had a very good game in defense.  Was instrumental in neutralizing several of Stoke's long balls into the box. Made a couple threatening forays on offense, but was guilty of failing to capitalize on his opportunities from set pieces.  Grade 7

Daniel Agger—was not able to be as influential going forward as he’s known to be, and was off-target on a couple shots.  While offense is not his role, a player of his ability should at least be able to put the ball on target.  Defensively he did a good job of helping contain the Stoke aerial attack, but nothing really stands out from today’s performance.  Grade 6

José Enrique—was relegated to largely a defensive role today, but was hardly challenged in that role.  Should have had an assist after his surgical pass to Henderson, to add to one or two other opportunistic passes into the box. Grade 7

Adam—outside of his left-sided cross into the box that was missed by the pair of Skrtel and Suárez, he had a miserable afternoon at the Brittania Stadium.  He was guilty of fouling far too many times, and arguably should have been booked on two separate occasions.  Somehow completed 76 percent of his passes, but the 17 giveaways must have been really glaring, because it certainly seemed like he was constantly passing to a red and white shirt. Grade 4

Lucas Leiva—steady Eddy as always.  While he did manage two shots, one of which forcing a save, it’s his defensive work that the gritty Brazilian is making his name known for.  His positioning has drastically improved relative to past seasons, and this more than anything has contributed to his success.  Whereas before he’d find himself out of position and having to make rash challenges, now he knows how to position himself for the easy intercept.  Nothing overly impressive, but very nice game.  Grade 7

Henderson (Bellamy 67’)—a forgettable day by Henderson.  The very fact that all we can say of his day is that he squandered a golden opportunity to save his club two points with a goal, tells you all you need to know.  Grade 4.5

Downing—continues to prove the worth of his signing, as he’s consistently Liverpool’s most threatening player after Suárez.  Was largely stymied today by the combination of a very good Stoke defense, and the inability of the Liverpool midfield to get anything going. Still managed to create opportunities for himself and others.  Was surprisingly more effective after being switched to the right side in the second half, working two very good balls into the box, including one that Bellamy should have done better with.  Grade 7

Kuyt (Carroll 67’)—had a minimal impact on the game today, although it’s hard to really pin that on him. Nothing stands out one way or another, but hard to say that he had a "good" game.  Grade 5

Suárez—simply put, Liverpool would be dreadful without the Uruguayan sparkplug.  He really should have done better to get onto Adam’s cross to the back post in the fourth minute, and undoubtedly should have put away Begovic’s mistake in stoppage time, and that will factor into his grade.  Still, he was the only one consistently threatening the Stoke defense, and rightly should have been awarded a penalty on Upson’s handball.  Grade 7.5



Substitutes

Carroll—was not much of a factor in his 23 minutes on the pitch, but did manage to squeeze off a shot that was blocked (perhaps with the hand) by Whitehead.  Grade 5.5

Bellamy—had a good game in the little time that he was on the pitch, and this portends well for the rest of the season for Liverpool.  He most likely has shown enough to merit the role of first striker off the bench for Kenny Dalglish but, for today, should have done better with Downing’s late cross.  Grade 6

Not used

Alexander Doni, Maxi Rodriguez, Sebastian Coates, Jay Spearing.

ljun

国王应该学学吠蛇,向裁判施加压力,好好保护球员:

二打六

卡拉格要求球迷们忘了对陶工的失利


卡拉格要求利物浦尽快忘掉客场1比0兵败大不列颠球场的失利并投入到下周日对托特纳姆的客场比赛中。
红军开赛以来的不败势头于周六在大不列颠球场以一种有争议的方式被终止。

裁判马克克莱滕堡在卡拉格放倒了沃尔特斯后给了严厉的判罚并给了陶工一个有争议的点球。

沃尔特斯自己操刀攻入了全场唯一进球，而在接下来的比赛中，克莱滕堡不顾红军球员申诉拒绝吹了两个点球。

罗伊德拉普和马修厄普森两次禁区内的犯规躲过两劫，达格利什的球队也为浪费了很多机会付出了代价。

“我们对点球的判罚很失望，”卡拉格说，“我们被判了一个点球却有几个点球得不到，我们有些忿忿不平。

“我们踢的不错，一般来说，我们应该能拿三分。我们落后之后踢的很好并渴望能赢下比赛。希望我们如果下周踢托特纳姆时也能这样并有所斩获。”

“我们必须确信我们将会有所反弹。”

斯托克城幸运拿走三分，但卡拉格却对陶工下半场的险象逃生赞誉有佳。

“他们的门将和后卫们表现的太好了，我们得承认他们防守的很好。”

“他们一直以来都是这种踢法，尤其是在主场。”

“我们可以对我们的表现感到满意，但是可惜的是我们无功而返。这是属于斯托克城的一天。”

～迷幻旋律～

自己也算有責任吧，還好意思叫人家忘掉