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关于汽车隔音 ~让玻璃佬来当下仙家呗 ~ 更新在 241 楼 ~ 12.04.2015

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发表于 12-4-2015 10:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 keith1985 于 12-4-2015 10:31 PM 编辑
Wongking3072 发表于 5-4-2015 05:00 PM
各位大大们 ~ 玻璃佬又回来写故事了 …!

这几天在做一些资料收集和隔音测试~ 所以让各位久等了 ~ 不 ...

LZ, 大概做了多少钱?
我只是想知道你单单做了那个Aero Bomb的部分花了多少钱?
我想做防火墙隔音,LZ有问过几钱吗?

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发表于 12-4-2015 10:25 PM | 显示全部楼层
HectorSoh 发表于 12-4-2015 07:46 PM
其实车顶的还蛮值得的。。。rf

隔热也会变好

你有做防火墙隔音吗?只是做防护墙会贵吗?
我想减少CVT的噪音
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发表于 12-4-2015 10:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
lolicon 发表于 10-4-2015 11:11 AM
车原装就有加了塑料泡沫在fender部位,虽然很cheap,原装的不能要求太多啦
它把fender的空洞部位填满, ...

請問這種塑料泡沫可以叫人弄的嗎?還有這種塑料泡沫叫什麼名字啊?
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发表于 12-4-2015 10:56 PM | 显示全部楼层
lolicon 发表于 10-4-2015 11:13 AM
第一代myvi before facelife的好像有放,不过那之后的好像都被cut掉了。toyota现在的新车都会放了,其他b ...

請問是要怎樣把fender里的空洞填满呢?
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发表于 12-4-2015 10:58 PM | 显示全部楼层
Wongking3072 发表于 9-4-2015 11:05 PM
大大果然是识货之人 ~ 我的 xv 这个位置没放任何  Siplast ~
我有去看原装 myvi & altis 有放呢 ~

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原來這種東西叫Siplast啊
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发表于 12-4-2015 11:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
jash_candy 发表于 10-4-2015 03:36 PM
从缝里跑进去怎么样到会沾到一点的。
不然你下窗口的时候也会流下去吧。

我說的是車頂啊
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发表于 12-4-2015 11:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
jash_candy 发表于 10-4-2015 04:04 PM
你做么跟我问的问题一样

證明了不是我們眼睛有問題咯
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发表于 13-4-2015 11:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
lolicon 发表于 10-4-2015 08:53 AM
喷一层没有用,就好象楼主那样
要填满里面的空洞

不好意思,因为有些人说那些洞是喷的,有些说是贴的
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发表于 13-4-2015 11:45 AM | 显示全部楼层

你没有说好,我怎么知道。
你的有放纸皮?
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发表于 13-4-2015 11:49 AM | 显示全部楼层
limcheehin30 发表于 12-4-2015 03:28 PM
證明了不是我們眼睛有問題咯

也有可能只有我们两眼睛有问题咯
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发表于 14-4-2015 12:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
jash_candy 发表于 13-4-2015 11:45 AM
你没有说好,我怎么知道。
你的有放纸皮?

我是有這個打算啦
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发表于 14-4-2015 12:14 AM | 显示全部楼层
jash_candy 发表于 13-4-2015 11:49 AM
也有可能只有我们两眼睛有问题咯

樓主說那種材質是叫Siplast
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发表于 14-4-2015 11:37 AM | 显示全部楼层
keith1985 发表于 12-4-2015 10:25 PM
你有做防火墙隔音吗?只是做防护墙会贵吗?
我想减少CVT的噪音

一点罢了,CVT的声音要小,你要全车做,CVT的吵是震动来的,底盘,firewall会对他比较明显
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 楼主| 发表于 14-4-2015 03:35 PM | 显示全部楼层
keith1985 发表于 12-4-2015 10:23 PM
LZ, 大概做了多少钱?
我只是想知道你单单做了那个Aero Bomb的部分花了多少钱?
我想做防火墙隔音,LZ ...

一千左右 … 在所难免的 … 量力而为吧 ~
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发表于 15-4-2015 10:27 AM | 显示全部楼层

那就要坐下来研究下咯,如果有效果也算是DIY省钱的好事。
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发表于 15-4-2015 10:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
limcheehin30 发表于 13-4-2015 04:14 PM
樓主說那種材質是叫Siplast

那种材料?
看不出叻
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发表于 15-4-2015 11:38 AM | 显示全部楼层
搂主,找到这个贴很有趣。

前面说 AutoFoam 很好,后面说做 Sound Proof 是没用的。

后面说得很有道理,你可以看看。

话说 Nissan Latio 隔音真的很好,起初还以为第一辆去弄隔音,到坐第二辆原来也是一样才知道设计好的原理。

可能真的和其中一个回复说的一样,因为轮子关系。

http://autoworld.com.my/forum/in ... amp;showtopic=97135
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发表于 15-4-2015 11:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
对了,原来一些车子还有耳机用的 Noise Cancellation 技术!
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发表于 15-4-2015 12:38 PM | 显示全部楼层
If you think Mazda 3 is the noisy car, then i will say my cheapo Saga BLM probably is the noisiest car in this world.

Alot of ppl here just simply miss-intepret 'road noise'.
Like jklow123 said, road/tyre noise is dominant by low frequency, pls refer to my attached frequency analysis taken by spectrum analyzer taken in my Saga BLM.

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As you can see from the graph, the noise is mainly around 100-200Hz, this kind of low frequency will not be able to eliminated by foaming/dampening. So why foaming/dampening can hear 'some' improvement?

Our car chassis is hollow, when the low frequency penetrate into cabin, it will pass through the hollow seal chassis. Just imagine you shout in the hollow tunnel, what can you hear? a more louder noise and echo. Foaming just simply fill the hollow chassis pillar and reduce those echo noise, so u hear improvement.

For damping, this material is used to deadening the noise cause by panel vibration. When low frequency vibration transmitted from tyre to chassis, the panel will vibrate at the same base frequency + harmonic due to base frequency. Means let say the vibration noise transmitted from tyre is 100Hz, the harmonic will be 2X100Hz, 3X100Hz, 4X100Hz with reduce amplitude. SO dampening material (such as those STP/dynamat) is just add the mass on the panel and shift the resonant frequency to the range which our ear is not much sensitive, so you hear 'some' improvement again.

Many of you blame the car nowadays lack of soundproofing material, i will say for any Japanese car or national car or 'fake contis' in Malaysia mostly are lack of soundproofing material, but why A car is quieter than B car?

Try to knock the door panel, roof, engine hood, bootlid of Honda accord compare to cheap Proton car, you will surprise to hear that both car are equally 'hollow'.

Ok, just try to compare apple to apple, Saga BLM, Honda City and VIOS, all these 3 are B segment car with similar size and weight, so why City and VIOS is much quieter compare to Saga BLM? Becos they using higher quality steel and soundproofing material? HELL NO, all these car has almost similar minimal soundproofing material applied.

I did some 'experiment' on my car to achieve almost similar NVH compare to City/VIOS, what i did was just lowering the tyre pressure. Yes, just as simple as that.

So my conclusion is the low frequency road roar/drone is mainly due to the suspension of the car.

Try to think on it, when you lowering the tyre pressure, your tyre will become 'softer' and able to flex more, flex more mean the low frequency vibration can be absorbed by the tyre when the tyre hit the rough road, hence it reduce the low frequency road noise come into cabin drastically.

Same theory can apply on suspension, when the suspension is superior, it will absorb all kind of vibration due to tyre-road contact, else the low vibration frequency will transmitted from tyre through suspension and make the whole car to vibrate, here comes the 'road noise/roar'.

But sorry to say, if the problem is due to bad suspension design, then nothing you can do except change car. Change to silent tyre just a temporary solution that can only last you probably 10k KM before the noise come back again, becos new tyre rubber is softer during new, that's why vibration is greatly reduce. What you do based on recommendation on this thread is just to improve the situation, how many percent improvement is based on car design itself. After i read through this thread, i dun believe anyone here can turn your noisy car as quiet as those luxury car. That's why i dun agree if u just blindly follow other's recommendation without understanding the theory behind.

这一段很有道理哦
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 楼主| 发表于 15-4-2015 12:51 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
HectorSoh 发表于 15-4-2015 12:38 PM
If you think Mazda 3 is the noisy car, then i will say my cheapo Saga BLM probably is the noisiest c ...

好可惜我不会英文。。。。
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