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回复 2046# 优大宅男 的帖子
合理不合理是非常主观的。怎样才是合理呢?你认为RM0.20是合理,我可能觉得RM0.15才合理,另一个人可能认为RM0.05才合理。 |
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发表于 20-5-2009 10:08 PM
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大众信托基金回酬率(一)截至4月30号
Fund Name | 1 Year | 3 Year | 5 Year | 10 Year | Since Launched
| | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | | PSF | -12.25% | -12.25% | 25.38% | 7.83% | 47.47% | 8.08% | 123.58% | 8.38% | 575.08% | | PGF | -18.09% | -18.09% | 21.79% | 6.79% | 40.72% | 7.07% | 111.03% | 7.75% | 542.45% | | PIX | -21.03% | -21.03% | 9.12% | 2.95% | 32.35% | 5.77% | 85.82% | 6.39% | 321.84% | | PIF | -23.50% | -23.50% | 11.09% | 3.57% | 36.44% | 6.41% | 91.54% | 6.72% | 96.91% | | PAGF | -21.83% | -21.83% | 24.09% | 7.46% | 47.78% | 8.12% | 110.08% | 7.71% | 95.33% | | PRSF | -17.15% | -17.15% | 15.78% | 5.01% | 38.52% | 6.73% | 108.83% | 7.64% | 186.86% | | PSMALLCAP | -11.40% | -11.40% | 48.44% | 14.07% | 62.77% | 10.23% | N/A | N/A | 160.90% | | PEF | -19.17% | -19.17% | 15.66% | 4.97% | 39.64% | 6.91% | N/A | N/A | 109.32% | | PFSF | -17.40% | -17.40% | 12.24% | 3.92% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 31.71% | | PDSF | -14.33% | -14.33% | 21.64% | 6.75% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 36.41% | |
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发表于 20-5-2009 10:09 PM
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大众信托基金回酬率(二)截至4月30号
Fund Name | 1 Year | 3 Year | 5 Year | 10 Year | Since Launched
| | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | | PFES | -20.58% | -20.58% | 17.62% | 5.56% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 29.25% | | PRSEC | -17.81% | -17.81% | 13.58% | 4.34% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 13.92% | | PGSF | -23.82% | -23.82% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -28.21% | | PFEDF | -22.36% | -22.36% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -8.41% | | PCSF | -30.79% | -30.79% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -34.68% | | PFEPRF | -30.81% | -30.81% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -40.52% | | PBF | -11.80% | -11.80% | 23.75% | 7.36% | 45.79% | 7.83% | 109.76% | 7.69% | 115.22% | | PFEBF | -16.25% | -16.25% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -11.44% | | PGBF | -16.32% | -16.32% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -20.49% | | PBOND | 2.67% | 2.67% | 14.24% | 4.54% | 30.69% | 5.50% | 99.87% | 7.17% | 164.32% | |
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大众信托基金回酬率(三)截至4月30号
Fund Name | 1 Year | 3 Year | 5 Year | 10 Year | Since Launched
| | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | | PINBOND | 4.29% | 4.29% | 11.77% | 3.78% | 19.54% | 3.63% | N/A | N/A | 22.97% | | PEBF | -1.75% | -1.75% | 12.68% | 4.06% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 22.78% | | PSBF | 3.19% | 3.19% | 13.79% | 4.40% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 15.17% | | PMMF | 2.86% | 2.86% | 9.53% | 3.08% | 16.79% | 3.15% | N/A | N/A | 17.99% | | PITTIKAL | -17.95% | -17.95% | 15.43% | 4.90% | 38.03% | 6.66% | 148.36% | 9.52% | 157.78% | | PIEF | -16.63% | -16.63% | 18.87% | 5.93% | 39.83% | 6.94% | N/A | N/A | 75.81% | | PIOF | -17.20% | -17.20% | 28.98% | 8.85% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 43.82% | | PIDF | -14.18% | -14.18% | 24.16% | 7.48% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 25.74% | | PAIF | -16.25% | -16.25% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -2.40% | | PIADF | -21.75% | -21.75% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -22.79% | |
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发表于 20-5-2009 10:11 PM
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大众信托基金回酬率(四)截至4月30号
Fund Name | 1 Year | 3 Year | 5 Year | 10 Year | Since Launched
| | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | | PIBF | -13.27% | -13.27% | 9.13% | 2.96% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 15.36% | | PIABF | -15.95% | -15.95% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -21.36% | | PIBOND | 4.75% | 4.75% | 14.97% | 4.76% | 34.45% | 6.10% | N/A | N/A | 56.29% | | PIEBF | -0.01% | -0.01% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 4.74% | | PISBF | 3.91% | 3.91% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 6.19% | | PIMMF | 2.77% | 2.77% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 5.42% | | PSEASF | -30.51% | -30.51% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -35.04% | | PSSF | -17.06% | -17.06% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -23.16% | | PISSF | -17.05% | -17.05% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -23.52% | | PCIF | -25.93% | -25.93% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -33.28% | |
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发表于 20-5-2009 10:12 PM
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大众信托基金回酬率(五)截至4月30号
Fund Name | 1 Year | 3 Year | 5 Year | 10 Year | Since Launched
| | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | Annual | Total | | PFECTF | -12.37% | -12.37% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -9.00% | | PISTF | -13.45% | -13.45% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -12.00% | | PCTF | -15.30% | -15.30% | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -15.40% | | PIOGF | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | -16.00% | | PFETIF | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 15.24% | | PCPSPF | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 3.60% | | PIINCOME | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 4.24% | | PISEF | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 6.08% | | PSA30F | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | N/A | 0.24% | |
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发表于 24-5-2009 08:42 PM
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我的组合终于上到paper gain Rm1.1K了咯! |
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发表于 24-5-2009 08:45 PM
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回复 2048# leekk8 的帖子
LZ,
你手上有没有其它基金的表现比如UOB-OSK来做个比较? |
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发表于 24-5-2009 09:32 PM
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回复 2054# tankangkai 的帖子
我没有整理其他基金的回酬表现,但是如果你有兴趣比较,可以到lipperweb网站去看每个基金的表现。 |
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发表于 24-5-2009 09:59 PM
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回复 2055# leekk8 的帖子
没有关系,只是想如果你手上有资料就可以放上来! |
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发表于 24-5-2009 10:35 PM
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有什么基金的policy是每年给distribution的(大众的)!我想知道一下大众有么中下等风险的基金吗?投资在本地的!!属于pb series的有吗??给我研究下!最近只是研究pnb的asn3基金! |
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发表于 24-5-2009 11:00 PM
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发表于 24-5-2009 11:03 PM
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每年涉及费用是多少巴仙???比如说买1000。。每月100。。一年的费用占总投资额7%++???  |
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发表于 24-5-2009 11:10 PM
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回复 2057# 汉王 的帖子
所有的dividend fund都是每年给distribution的。
中低风险的都是平衡基金。 |
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发表于 24-5-2009 11:16 PM
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回复 2059# 优大宅男 的帖子
5.5%的服务费只是付一次,管理费和信托费才是每年付的。所以,费用只是第一年比较高,过后就不会,所以通常我们建议长期投资。 |
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发表于 25-5-2009 01:00 AM
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我不懂有没有算错。。。。
比如说,我第一年买psf。。1000。。。服务费1000X5.5%=55 每月服务费11X100X5.5%=60.5
第一年管理和信托费1000X1.56%=15.6 11X100X1.56%=17.16 第一年费用55+60.5+15.6+17.16=148.26
第一年费用占总投资额148.26/(1000+1100)X100%=7.06%
第一年剩下的投资额2100-148.26=1951.74
第二年每月服务费12X100X5.5%=66 年度管理和信托费(1951.74+1200)X1.56%=49.17 第二年费用(66+49.17)/3151.74X100=3.65%
第二年剩下的投资额3151.74-66-49.17=3036.57
第三年每月服务费12X100X5.5%=66 年度管理和信托费(3036.57+1200)X1.56%=66.09 第三年费用(66+66.09)/(3036.57+1200)X100=3.12%
第三年剩下的投资额4236.57-132.09=4104.48
第四年每月服务费12X100X5.5%=66 年度管理和信托费(4104.48+1200)X1.56%=82.75 第四年费用148.75/5304.48X100=2.8%
第四年剩下的投资额5304.48-148.75=5155.73
第五年每月服务费12X100X5.5%=66 年度管理和信托费(5155.73+1200)X1.56%=99.15 第五年费用165.15/6355.73X100=2.6%
第五年剩下的投资额6355.73-165.15=6190.58 |
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发表于 25-5-2009 03:07 AM
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发表于 25-5-2009 09:46 AM
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回复 2062# 优大宅男 的帖子
管理费和信托费的算法不是这么直接,但是你也可以这样简化那算法。
两点不对:
1)管理费和信托费是每天扣除的,所以你每月加码的数额肯定不会被抽1.56%的管理费,约迟加码的就被扣越少。
2)管理费和信托费的扣除不是根据你的投资额的百分比,而是基金NAV的百分比。
另外需要提的,在网站上看到的回酬表现,是已经扣除管理费和信托费的回酬。 |
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发表于 25-5-2009 01:06 PM
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哇!好复杂 |
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