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【~~仙家大炮王~~个人专区】 (回顾20100614---20111231)。。。。。)
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发表于 7-7-2011 11:58 PM
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本帖最后由 alexsee 于 8-7-2011 12:03 AM 编辑
哦,那么就是说明假如一开市9am,价钱冲到比IPO 的高,就是因为有很多buyer在还没开市前就排队买票了,第一个买到的就是最低价也就是IPO 价 0.15, 这样解释有问题吗?因为我是好奇为何昨天CA一开市9am就冲到0。2++,而IPO只是0.15, 那么难道没有人买到IPO 0.15 的价钱吗? |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:17 AM
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哦,那么就是说明假如一开市9am,价钱冲到比IPO 的高,就是因为有很多buyer在还没开市前就排队买票了,第一 ...
alexsee 发表于 7-7-2011 11:58 PM 
哦,那么就是说明假如一开市9am,价钱冲到比IPO 的高,就是因为有很多buyer在还没开市前就排队买票了,第一个买到的就是最低价也就是IPO 价 0.15, 这样解释有问题吗?因为我是好奇为何昨天CA一开市9am就冲到0。2++,而IPO只是0.15, 那么难道没有人买到IPO 0.15 的价钱吗?
不对,第一个买到的价钱未必是最低,可能是最高也不定。明日0.15。。。。99.99%是买不到了,你要明白0.15是发售价,并不是市场
交易价,明日的交易价是明日的买盘与卖盘来决定。。。。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:22 AM
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回复 2024# 仙家大炮王
嗯,大概有概念了。交易价是由买卖方决定的。发售价0.15只是给买卖方讨价还价的一个开始价钱。
谢谢你的解释:) |
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发表于 8-7-2011 10:19 AM
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Submitting Merchant Bank : HWANGDBS INVESTMENT BANK BERHAD
Company Name : JERNEH ASIA BERHAD
Stock Name : JERNEH-WA
Date Announced : 07/07/2011
EX-date : 19/07/2011
Entitlement date : 21/07/2011
Entitlement time : 05:00:00 PM
Entitlement subject : Others
Entitlement description : Adjustment to the exercise price of Warrants 2007/2012 ("Warrants") issued in accordance with the provisions of the deed poll dated 11 April 2007 ("Deed Poll"), pursuant to the minimum cash dividend payment of RM1.87 per share by Jerneh Asia Berhad ("JAB") to its shareholders
Period of interest payment : to
Financial Year End : 31/12/2011
Share transfer book & register of members will be : to closed from (both dates inclusive) for the purpose of determining the entitlements
Registrar's name ,address, telephone no : PPB CORPORATE SERVICES SDN BHD
17TH FLOOR, WISMA JERNEH,
38 JALAN SULTAN ISMAIL
50250 KUALA LUMPUR
Tel: 03-2117 0888
Payment date :
a.
Securities transferred into the Depositor's Securities Account before 4:00 pm in respect of transfers
: 21/07/2011
b.
Securities deposited into the Depositor's Securities Account before 12:30 pm in respect of securities exempted from mandatory deposit
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c. Securities bought on the Exchange on a cum entitlement basis according to the Rules of the Exchange.
Number of new shares/securities issued (units) (If applicable)
:
Entitlement indicator : Currency
Currency : Malaysian Ringgit (MYR)
Entitlement in Currency : 1
Remarks :
As at 26 May 2011, being the latest practicable date prior to the printing of the Circular to Shareholders of JAB dated 13 June 2011, the total amount to be distributed pursuant to the dividend distribution is between RM460.8 million (assuming all Warrants are unexercised) and RM462.0 million (assuming all outstanding Warrants are exercised). The minimum payout per ordinary share of RM1.00 each in JAB (“JAB Share”), based on the assumption that all outstanding Warrants are exercised, is RM1.87 (“Minimum Payout”).
Holders of Warrants (“Warrant Holders”) who intend to exercise their rights to subscribe for new JAB Shares, at the exercise price of RM1.60 per JAB Share ("Exercise Price"), and to qualify for the entitlement to the final and special dividend are required to lodge their duly completed exercise forms together with the subscription monies, in accordance with the provisions of the Deed Poll, to the Share Registrar of JAB so as to arrive not later than 5.00 p.m. on 11 July 2011.
For illustrative purpose, assuming Minimum Payout and based on the 5-day volume weighted average market price of JAB Share up to 6 July 2011 (being the preceding date prior to this announcement) of RM3.17, the Exercise Price of Warrants shall be adjusted to RM0.66. However, based on the Deed Poll, there shall be no adjustment made involving reduction in exercise price below the par value of JAB Share of RM1.00. Hence, assuming Minimum Payout, the Exercise Price of the Warrants will be adjusted to RM1.00, being the par value of JAB Share as a result of the final and special dividend.
The final gross dividend payout per share and the final Exercise Price of Warrants will be determined and announced on 11 July 2011.
The adjustment to the Exercise Price as a result of the final and special dividend shall take effect on 22 July 2011. A notice setting out the adjustments to the Exercise Price will be sent to the Warrant Holders in due course.
We would like to advise Warrant Holders who intend to exercise any of their Warrants and to qualify for the entitlement to the final and special dividend to lodge their duly completed subscription forms together with the subscription monies in accordance with the provisions of the Deed Poll at the exercise price of RM1.60 for each JAB Share, to reach JAB’s Share Registrar, PPB Corporate Services Sdn Bhd located at 17th Floor, Wisma Jerneh, 38 Jalan Sultan Ismail, 50250 Kuala Lumpur by 5.00 p.m. on 11 July 2011. This is to allow sufficient time for JAB’s Share Registrar to allot and issue the JAB Shares arising from the exercise of the Warrants and for such Warrant Holders to be registered in JAB’s Record of Depositors for Shareholders on or before the Book Closure Date for the final and special dividend of 21 July 2011. Failure to lodge such duly completed subscription forms together with the subscription monies by 5.00 p.m. on 11 July 2011 may result in such Warrant Holders not being registered in JAB’s Record of Depositors for Shareholders by the Book Closure Date.
不好意思,想请教下仙家大大。
如以上的通告,如果我不转换我的Jerneh-Wa会有什么后果?
我的买入价是1.6,10lots
因为exercise price 是1.6,如果我在11/7/2011之前转换,我需要给RM1600先对么?
如果我不转换,派了股息后会怎样adjust呢?这里说exercise price只会adjust到最低RM1. 那如果派了股息RM1.87后,假设估价是3。17,那调整后就是1.3,如果exercise price adjust to RM1,那我的warrant amount 会增加么?如果不增加,我不是亏惨了?请各位帮忙指教和解释好么?感激不尽~ |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:14 PM
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回复 仙家大炮王
嗯,大概有概念了。交易价是由买卖方决定的。发售价0.15只是给买卖方讨价还价的 ...
alexsee 发表于 8-7-2011 12:22 AM 
看到CIMB 卖MSM-CA,那么好赚。
现在OSK 卖MSM-CB IPO 是RM0.15。
但是,OSK会抬高价RM0.445才卖。
OSK在RM0.445 卖出300,000UNIT,
他赚了RM0.295。
对吗?
一直卖完80,000,000UNIT。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:17 PM
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仙兄, 请教你malton-wb 走势是否像pworth-wa? 可以算算合理价是多少吗? |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:38 PM
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MSM-CB RATIO 5:1
Exercise Price RM4.50
Expiry Date : 07.05.2012
如果到期
买了MSM-CB RM0.45
MSM 价在 是RM6.75
6.75 - 4.50 = 2.25 / 5 =RM0.45
用了RM0。45买,到期拿回RM0。45。
那就一点钱都没赚。
REMARK : 以上没算水费。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:40 PM
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以今日MSM----5.55.........MSM-CA---0.45 来计算
转换率 ----5 : 1
转换价-----4.50
MSM-CA 的真正的价值(不算转换溢价)
MSM-CA = (MSM - 转换价) /转换率
=(5.55 - 4.50)/ 5
谢谢仙楼主的详细解释. |
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发表于 8-7-2011 12:43 PM
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本帖最后由 alexsee 于 8-7-2011 12:44 PM 编辑
看到CIMB 卖MSM-CA,那么好赚。
现在OSK 卖MSM-CB IPO 是RM0.15。
但是,OSK会抬高价RM0. ...
平院 发表于 8-7-2011 12:14 PM 
就是咯,第一transaction 是 有人(应该是osk 吧? )在0.445卖出3000lot , 奇怪第二个transaction 是 买和卖都在 0.45, 那么osk 的3000 lot (0.445)是卖给谁了? 没有record 的?? |
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发表于 8-7-2011 02:14 PM
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仙家大大... 你怎么看 genm 要买大马彩的消息?? |
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发表于 8-7-2011 02:16 PM
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发表于 8-7-2011 03:00 PM
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CAREPLS 静悄悄的起了0.495+0.055 ,目前持有20,000股平均价0.4625,开始由亏转盈。。。。。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 03:34 PM
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Submitting Merchant Bank : HWANGDBS INVESTMENT BANK BERHAD
Company Name : JERNEH ASIA BERHAD
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cristiano~7 发表于 8-7-2011 10:19 AM 
没有人可以帮到我么? |
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发表于 8-7-2011 03:56 PM
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就是咯,第一transaction 是 有人(应该是osk 吧? )在0.445卖出3000lot , 奇怪第二个transaction 是 买 ...
alexsee 发表于 8-7-2011 12:43 PM 
应该是OSK卖,一直卖完为止。80,000,000UNITS |
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发表于 8-7-2011 04:02 PM
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没有人可以帮到我么?
cristiano~7 发表于 8-7-2011 03:34 PM 
不好意思,
懒惰看什么什么转换价,
什么什么ADJUST价钱。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 04:15 PM
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就是咯,第一transaction 是 有人(应该是osk 吧? )在0.445卖出3000lot , 奇怪第二个transaction 是 买 ...
alexsee 发表于 8-7-2011 12:43 PM 
MSM-CB
现在08.07.2011 4.15PM VOLUME:
23,600,000UNITS
减OTHERS如13,600,000UNITS,
10,000,000UNITS 是OSK卖的。
OSK还没有卖完,还有70,000,000UNITS在手。
他看到有很多买家,OSK会再卖,一直卖完为止。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 04:28 PM
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回复 2038# 平院
原来是这样啊~~ 竟然有人在一开市9:03am 就“抢”到最高价40 lot 0.54~~ 不知道他/她几时才能卖出获利。。 |
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发表于 8-7-2011 06:10 PM
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回复 2037# 平院
不用紧,或许你看不明我在讲什么, 有人懂么?
希望看懂的人帮帮忙,我没遇过这种事~
母股派息1.87高过exercise price1.6,那派息后的行使价如何调整呢? |
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发表于 10-7-2011 10:15 PM
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Submitting Merchant Bank : HWANGDBS INVESTMENT BANK BERHAD
Company Name : JERNEH ASIA BERHAD
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cristiano~7 发表于 8-7-2011 10:19 AM 
不好意思,想请教下仙家大大。
如以上的通告,如果我不转换我的Jerneh-Wa会有什么后果?
我的买入价是1.6,10lots
因为exercise price 是1.6,如果我在11/7/2011之前转换,我需要给RM1600先对么?
如果我不转换,派了股息后会怎样adjust呢?这里说exercise price只会adjust到最低RM1. 那如果派了股息RM1.87后,假设估价是3。17,那调整后就是1.3,如果exercise price adjust to RM1,那我的warrant amount 会增加么?如果不增加,我不是亏惨了?请各位帮忙指教和解释好么?感激不尽~
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这还是我第一次面对母股派高股息,孩子面对的命运。。。。。我也不知我回答对不对,若有错请知情人纠正。。。。。。
假设你想转换你的Jerneh-Wa,你必须在110711.。5点前,买好RM1,600的BANKDRAF,填好表格送到(最好请自送到)
PPB CORPORATE SERVICES SDN BHD
17TH FLOOR, WISMA JERNEH,
38 JALAN SULTAN ISMAIL
50250 KUALA LUMPUR
Tel: 03-2117 0888
以目前的算法,凭单+转换价=换母股
1.09+1.60 =2.69 ......用2.69换3.17的母股还算值得。。。。。(但是这个特别股息不知有没有抽税,若有你可能会被抽数百令吉)
假设你不想转换你的Jerneh-Wa,你可能会面对大亏本的情况,如果派了股息RM1.87(应该不可能)后,假设估价是3。17,那调整后
就是1.30,凭单转换价调低至1.00,在这种情况之下,面对还有1年寿命的凭单,并不是一件好事,它可能会下跌低于0.30.。。。。。
而且你的凭单数量是不会增加的。。。
现在你有3个选择 :
1.转换成母股,减低亏损/增加赚幅。。。。
2.不转换成母股,继续持有,亏损扩大。。。。也许宣布真实股息后,母股大起,凭单也大起。。。。。。
3.当机立断,卖出凭单亏损成定局。。。。。
我在JERNEH宣布特别股息后,股价也没有闻风大起后,我就选择卖出6万股的JERNEH-WA,因为我也想到可能会面对这样的风险,
当时我也叫我的朋友卖出,无奈他还要等,结果错失了卖出赚钱的机会,直至星期四,看到这个消息后,再告诉他必须卖出,还好他以
1.31的价位卖出,虽然亏钱但亏损并不大。。。。。。 |
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