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“北美崔哥”采访美国警察: 美国若发生香港这样的暴力事件,怎么处理?.

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AUDIO INTERVIEW & ARTICLE: Police Brutality a Common Occurrence Across America
October 27, 2013 AFP Archive 0


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Violent and disproportionate attacks on American citizens by police forces across the United States have become a daily occurrence, the details of which are delivered via computer or cell phone to millions from police cruiser “dashcams,” closed-circuit television (CCTV) and civilian video cameras.

The sometimes unprovoked attacks are now so prolific that several websites have sprung up, including one from the Cato Institute, whose sole purpose is to document and preserve this unfortunate aspect of life in 21st century America.

Dave Gahary sat down with public information officer David Northway of the Tallahassee (Florida) Police Department to discuss a particularly disturbing violent attack on a 44-year-old mother-of-two, who was slammed “onto the ground with such force that she suffered a broken orbital bone in her face, a bloody nose and multiple other injuries,” in this informative interview (8:06).

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 楼主| 发表于 29-7-2019 04:48 PM | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 29-7-2019 04:49 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果发生在HK,那班慕洋犬怎么说?
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 楼主| 发表于 29-7-2019 04:59 PM | 显示全部楼层
Police Brutality in America From the Perspective of Africans on the Continent
By Jamal Bradley - August 27, 201575873
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Police 1“What I don’t understand is, how could they treat your people like that? You Black Americans have fought wars for them, you’ve been there for centuries, the president is Black. But the police kill you like chickens.”

These were the harsh words of an older friend of mine from my neighborhood in Mombasa, Kenya. He had just walked out of his home and was watching a news story about the tension between Black Americans and police officers in the States. During our discussion, he noted how, while generally supporting public safety, he didn’t understand why there were so many instances of officers killing people. Equally, it was unfathomable that in many instances, the shootings were caught on camera and the officers were still not arrested.

In my recent and also past discussions with various people from across the continent, I’ve come across a number of opinions regarding the issue of police brutality in America. The thoughts on this issue ranged from noting the hypocrisy in America’s global image of being the protector of human rights, to some who felt that there must be some kind of conspiracy taking place due to the recent uptick in such incidents. And finally there are a small minority of people in Africa who believe that in some way, police officers are validated in these circumstances, due to what they perceive as the inherently violent nature of Black people in America.

The first group generally feels that the police violence against Blacks mirrors much of America’s foreign policy against different people in the world, ranging from the war in Vietnam, to contemporary conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan. What many Americans should realize is that the United States is held up as the global embodiment of freedom and the protection of human rights. And this fact is promoted in the international media and through entertainment, which is largely slanted towards the embellishment of American and Western values.

A number of people I’ve spoken to on the issue share the same sentiment as many Black Americans, which is— How can the people who are supposed to protect you be the same ones who are harassing your people and violating your rights?

This sentiment is one which arose after President Obama’s visit to Kenya. While many people applauded his comments and his critique regarding the issues of corruption in Africa, many also noted how there should be more done about the issue of police brutality in America. Many academics and those familiar with the Civil Rights era of the 60s and 70s will also point out that on the surface, there has been progression, but in reality, nothing much has changed. This point was referenced by individuals whom I know, along with opinion articles in various African journals.

The next general observation was the notion of there being some form of conspiracy by various forces to increase racial strife between Blacks and whites. A good number of people feel that such incidents are being perpetrated to bring about open conflict between Blacks and whites at a national level. Most Americans would probably dismiss such ideas because for one, it is contradictory to the concept that we as Americans are united and support each other and such issues are not possible in the supposed, greatest nation on earth. Secondly, such a conspiracy would require the participation of officials at the highest level of government, and this by most accounts would be highly illogical.

However, to those living on the African continent, the notion of open conflict between two distinct communities is very possible and in some regions, common. Conflicts such as the Hutu-Tutsi rivalry in Rwanda, Ethiopia-Eritrea, the issues of Central African Republic, and the decades long problems of the Democratic Republic of the Congo show that such issues are not merely conspiracies. It can be noted historically that many of these conflicts were the direct result of various plans and infringement of rights perpetrated by tribal and ethnic leaders in power, against other groups whom they viewed as rivals and threats to their position. Thus, when someone on the African continent sees an increase of white police officers killing unarmed Blacks in America and the system still protecting these officers, it reminds them of incidents which have happened in various places in the past and even the present.

The final, general opinion, among a small majority of people whom I have come across, is that in some way, the police are validated in their use of force against Black Americans. This sentiment was expressed because they felt that Black people in America were inherently violent, thus if a police officer were to encounter one of us, the use of violence would be necessary.

However, their logic was this— the overwhelming majority of Africans have never met a Black American, thus their perception of Black Americans is based upon the media and entertainment. Yes, those same rap videos, movies and the negative images of Black people in America, generally go global and since most people will never meet a Black American in their life, this is how they learn about us.

But in general terms, many people who felt this way would then discuss how the media can be wrong and in fact, some noted how their depiction of Africans isn’t accurate at all. One friend of mine even noted that while he did feel that way before but then mentioned “but then I met you and you’re not like that at all, so I figured that can’t be right.”

Upon reflection, one individual noted how if he were driving or walking down the street, a police officer would have no idea if he were Kenyan, Nigerian, Eritrean or Senegalese. A racist officer would see a Black person and that would be the beginning of the story.

Overall, the observation of many Africans whom I have come across believe the issue of police brutality against Blacks in America is a major problem. In fact, a good number of people feel this is an issue, which if allowed to fester, will become a major fissure in the fabric of America.

What I found equally interesting was that the thoughts and opinions of Africans generally reflects that of Black Americans. Finally, as we add more names to the list of unarmed Blacks being killed by police, America should know one thing— the world is watching.

The same police dash cam videos and images that show officers killing unarmed people and are shown on the local 6 o’clock news, are also shown on news stations around the world. Those same articles which discuss the issue of police violence against Blacks, are reprinted in newspapers and magazines around the world.

And when you try to lecture others about the problems within their country, know that one should fix their own home before pointing at others.

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 楼主| 发表于 30-7-2019 12:33 AM | 显示全部楼层
novation 发表于 28-7-2019 11:57 PM
纽约警察警告占领华尔街的学生撤离

崔哥:可是,可是占街的是学生,是年轻人呀,他们可是为了追求民主的。   民主的警棍打在民主的头上,因为公共秩序为大。

警察:民主 is none of my damn business (跟我 ...

想想, 如果港精学美国警察那样,那班慕洋犬吠成怎样




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 楼主| 发表于 30-7-2019 12:58 AM | 显示全部楼层
DATA SHOWS POLICE BRUTALITY IN AMERICA IS GETTING WORSE — 2018 COULD BE THE MOST DEADLY IN YEARS
“Police brutality in the United States is not worse. Phones and social media just make it feel that way.”

I see and hear some version of that thought pretty much every single day.

It’s a lie. It sounds good. I wish that was what we were dealing with right now. But it’s not.

See, some things are hard to measure.

Racism itself is difficult to measure. We can measure hate crimes — which are absolutely an indicator. We can measure reports of discrimination. We can measure the number of times hateful words are being used across the internet. Those things all help us measure racism, but it can sometimes be nebulous. Some of the most destructive forms of racism — like being denied a home loan or being passed on for a job where you are the most qualified candidate — are hard to measure in real time.

Police brutality is not that.

We can measure it. We can track it. In fact, every single day of the week, I study every single case of every single person who was killed by police.

Each case is unique. I know they seem to all blend and blur together sometimes, but each victim, each story, each city, each cop, each police department, each circumstance is unique.

But the one thing I can measure with absolute certainty is whether or not the number of people killed by police in this country is rising or falling. That’s not esoteric. It’s not theoretical.

And when people say things like, “Police brutality is not getting worse, social media and cell phones just show it more,” I know why they think that.

Social media and cell phones have indeed taken what was the secretly lived reality for people in this country — it’s taken that horrible reality and made it mainstream.

Truthfully, until 2014, when police killed Eric Garner and Mike Brown and John Crawford and Tamir Rice, most stories of police brutality lived in the shadows. Most of us would struggle to name a single person killed by police in 2011 or 2012 or 2013. So yes, it’s true, cell phone cameras and social media make police brutality more known, but I am here to report to you the painful fact that the problem is actually getting worse.

According to Killed by Police, a website that has painstakingly tracked police killings since 2013, there have been more police killings thus far this year than in the same timespan in any of the last five years. That means the problem is getting worse. It doesn’t just feel worse. It’s not just the cameras and the hashtags. It’s actually getting worse.

And it’s important for us to acknowledge this reality because I think it actually feels like it’s getting worse. That horrible feeling is backed up by measurable facts.

On the heels of the racist murders of Trayvon Martin and Jordan Davis, we entered 2014 with our nerves already frayed about what was going on in this country. When police in New York, Ohio, and Ferguson then killed Eric Garner, John Crawford, and Mike Brown — three unarmed black men — in a span of three weeks in the summer of 2014, a movement was sparked.

And so it may feel like 2014 was the worst year for police brutality because in that year we became activated to how serious the problem was and we learned more of the names and stories. But this year, despite all our activism around police violence, is likely to be worse.

By April 15 of 2014, at least 293 people had been killed by American police. By the end of the year, the number totaled 1,114.

By April 15 of 2015, the number had increased to 350 people killed by police. By the end of the year, the number rose by a staggering 108 fatalities over the year before to 1,222 people killed by American police.

By April 15 of 2016, the number declined slightly to 348 people. By the end of the year 1,171 people had been killed by police — a drop of 51 people.

Now, we have to remember, those may just be numbers for us, but many of us celebrated when we saw that drop because those are 51 lives — 51 mothers and fathers, sons and daughters, who are still alive.

By April 15 of 2017, the first year of the Trump administration, with 346 people killed by police, it looked like the numbers were going to stay steady. But by the end of the year, with 1,194 people killed, there was an increase of 23 people over 2016.

And this year is worse. We’re up to 378 people killed by April 15, the highest yet. If this trend continues, this could be the first year tracked by the site where we have 1,300 people killed by police in the United States.

It was my long-held belief that police brutality would increase under the Trump administration. While nearly all policing decisions are made at the state or county level, Trump has already signaled to police that he is in their corner and has made remarks suggesting that he didn’t really mind a little police brutality here and there. The Department of Justice meanwhile made clear last year that it wouldn’t be spending its resources to hold corrupt police departments accountable when it ended a DOJ program that scrutinized them. Now a recent decision from the conservative-majority Supreme Court has doubled down on protections for police who use force even in situations where it was not called for.

These actions each have a trickle-down effect and it appears we are now living in that effect. In spite of previous police rhetoric claiming they no longer felt comfortable using force, they clearly do. The “Ferguson effect” was a lie. Police are using lethal force even more than in 2014. It hasn’t slowed down — it has sped up.
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发表于 30-7-2019 01:02 AM | 显示全部楼层
說對了,只要中國實行美式民主,香港人就會乖乖了。

所以,還等什麽?習主席還不快點實施美式民主,天下人必欣然從命。
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 楼主| 发表于 30-7-2019 01:05 AM | 显示全部楼层
香港的暴民应该送去给cowboy调教才真

不过可惜人家都不要他们
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发表于 30-7-2019 03:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 vongolia 于 30-7-2019 03:09 AM 编辑

等你有了美式自由才来学人家的执行方式,只看其一,忽略其二,这就是你们亲中派 。
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发表于 30-7-2019 06:04 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
vongolia 发表于 30-7-2019 03:08 AM
等你有了美式自由才来学人家的执行方式,只看其一,忽略其二,这就是你们亲中派 。

我不亲中, 我反对暴力民主示威。

无论是大陆, 台湾,香港或新马人, 到了美国都不敢反抗美国警察的指令。 这跟民主不民主没关系, 是因为大家都知道若美国警察动手的话, 可能都是要命的。

听警察的话就好。
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发表于 30-7-2019 10:27 AM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
gavin@_@ 发表于 29-7-2019 12:33 AM
哇好恐怖,我们先移民去恐怖危险的美国先。你们不要来啊。

上面才说学生在美国要财富平均分配,不要偏帮富人,所以既然偏帮,中国富人都移民去美国抢美国穷人的钱有什么不妥
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 楼主| 发表于 31-7-2019 12:53 AM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 novation 于 31-7-2019 01:41 AM 编辑

慕洋犬就是慕洋犬,一听到american police brutality 就要挺身而出护主

每个国家的制度一定有他好和不好, 可笑是那班慕洋犬自作多情地把cowboy国美白粉饰。
cowboy国真有所说那种自由吗, 连国外几千哩他都要监听。。
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发表于 31-7-2019 07:39 AM | 显示全部楼层
在公共地方撒野,美国警察不敢管你。
在私人公司撒野, 私人公司就有权力叫警察出面。
这些美国学生自己罗来衰。
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 楼主| 发表于 1-8-2019 02:27 AM | 显示全部楼层

美国榜上有名

https://www.wonderslist.com/countries-worst-police-brutality/

10. USA
worst police brutality
Shocking as it may seem but the USA listed here as the country with the most brutal police force particularly after 9/11. The aftermath of the beginning of this war against terrorism, gave the police in the country immunity against legal and civil rights of people (unconstitutionally in few cases). Recently, there have been many killings because the police “doubted” criminal activity. Innocent people are killed or executed after biased trial because the police shows impunity with respect to civil rights when it comes to their fight against terrorism. Most killings involve black men. The names of Alton Sterling, Philando Castile, and Gregory Gunn are notable when it comes to police killings. Although, the country has world’s best police force! Surprised?
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 楼主| 发表于 1-8-2019 02:32 AM | 显示全部楼层
何为美式自由?
就是书面上民主(实际是金主), 平等(实际是白人主义),正义(实际是为了利益侵略弱小的败类)

书面的什么自由平等和实践是两回事, 叫做:

'挂羊头卖狗肉'
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