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没申报大马屋子的马劳买小新组屋后被查?

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发表于 16-4-2011 09:29 AM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 byte77 于 17-4-2011 12:37 AM 编辑

我在网上查了一下, 大马国家银行提供大马国民信贷状况的系统叫CCRIS.
CCRIS不是任何人能随意进去看的,需要你本人出示IC去申请检查,或是申请银行贷款或信用卡时才能被该银行进去检查。

如果你借贷的大马银行碰巧是小新也有的银行(UOB/OCBC/Standardchartered/HSBC等),就祝你好运。


总结:
1. 不要跟在大马的小新所有品牌银行有任何瓜葛。
2. 不要一次汇一大笔钱回大马(换钱的会要你小新IC,有记录)
3. 不要在‘非死不可’(face%b00k)上面贴屋子照片资料炫耀,在互联网发达的小新,网上资料已经时常成为机关的呈堂证供。

4. 不要用自己名字申请大马固定电话以免姓名地址被登在电话簿里。
5. 5年之内不要常时间住在大马屋子,每星期都要住组屋几天。
6. 最重要的是闭上你的嘴巴,不要在任何人面前提起大马的屋子。若被人问起,要说那是你爸妈亲戚的屋子。

http://www.duitmoney.com/ccris-report-from-bank-negara-id45/
One of the tools used by banks to evaluate the credit worthiness of a customer is to refer to the CCRIS report obtained (and maintained) by Bank Negara Malaysia (BNM). Beginning August 2001, CCRIS has become a crucial tool to the decision-making of the bank to approve the customer’s application. The report provides for real-time and on-line functions for banks to query for computerized customer credit reports as well as report relevant credit information to BNM.


CCRIS gives valuable details to the bank such as:
Details of all existing personal credit facilities of a customer, such as type of facility, and ownership of the credit facilities
Details on the total financial commitment, which includes the balance outstanding and the total limit for each of the credit facilities
Conduct of each credit facility for the past 12 months, including legal status
Other relevant information such as Date of Information Update, Frequency of Payment and Type of Collateral.

However, before you get worried about your credit information being abused, please note that the information can only be accessed by authorized persons in the bank, and is not available to the public in general. Your credit report:
Can only be obtained by the bank IF a formal CREDIT application is made by you to that particular bank
Cannot be viewed by other banks, at any time

Does not show your deposit / investment accounts
Does not show from which financial institution you borrowed from
Does not show the tenure of the credit facility enjoyed by you
Does not show the conduct of facilities for periods above one year



Explanation on some of the terms:
OUTSTANDING CREDIT vs APPLICATION FOR CREDIT.
The report is divided into two main areas i.e. the Outstanding Credit, where it displays all your existing credit facilities, and the Application For Credit, which shows all the loan application you made in the past 12 months, whether it was Approved, Pending or Rejected by the bank.
STS
Indicates the status of the credit facility. <O> means Outstanding i.e. on-going facility. Other terms include <> Pending, <A> Approved, <R> Rejected, <S> Settled, <W> Write Off, <C> Rescheduled, <T> Restructured.
CAPACITY
Indicates the capacity the borrowing you took from the bank i.e. as a <Own> own applicant, <SOLE> sole proprietor, <ARTNER> partnership, <JOINT> joint application.
LENDER TYPE
Indicates the type of institution you borrowed from e.g. <OWN> the same bank where you applied for the new loan, <CB> Other commercial banks, <MB> Merchant banks,<FC> Finance companies, etc.
MY/FGN
Indicates whether you are a Malaysian applicant or foreign applicant.
FACILITY
Indicates the type of facility enjoyed with the various banks. Includes <OVRDRAFT> Overdraft, <HLFNPRSR> Housing Loan, <HRPCSCGD> Hire Purchase for scheduled goods, <LEASING> Leasing facilities, <STLNFNCE> Staff Loans, <OTLNFNCE> Other Loans including personal loans, <CRDTCARD> Credit Cards, etc.
TOTAL O/STANDING BALANCE (RM)
Indicates the outstanding loan amount of other credit facilities at date of new loan application.
DATE BALANCE UPDATED
The date where information on existing credit facilities is updated to BNM system.
LIMIT (RM)
The original loan amount approved, or if revolving credit facilities (such as credit cards or overdraft), the limit assigned for the credit facility.
PRIN REPMT TERM
Whether the repayment frequency is Monthly <MTH>, Quarterly <QTR>, Annually <ANN>, Revolving <REV>, or other frequencies.
COL TYPE
Indicates the collateral type used by the bank to secure your credit facility. Includes <00> Clean facilities (no collateral), <10> Properties, <23> Unit Trusts, <30> Motor Vehicles, <60> Plant and Machineries, <70> Financial Guarantees, etc.
CONDUCT OF ACCOUNT FOR LAST 12 MONTHS
Most IMPORTANT part of the report, where the track record of conduct for each credit facilities for the past 12 months are indicated (J=January, F=February…. D=December, based on year).
If it is indicated as “0″ under <J> January, it means your installment for January is up-to-date. If “1″, it means your installment is 1 month in arrears (overdue), “2″ means 2 months installment overdue, “3″ means 3 months overdue and considered delinquent, etc.
If there are too many “2″s and “3″s and/or above, your conduct of credit account may be considered as “poor”, according to each bank’s interpretation.
LGL STS
Indicates the legal action status of your account if it is in default. The bank can know the action taken such as <10> Summon/Writ files, <11> Judgement Order, <12> Bankruptcy, <17> Winding Up order, <18> Auction, <20> Receivership / Section 176, <12> Settled / Discharged, etc.
DATE STATUS UPDATED
Indicates the date of latest update on the legal action status. Useful as some status are not updated on time, especially when you have a discharge letter from the lawyers.

Please note that CCRIS is used by the bank as a TOOL for loan decision making as the existing track records indicates the POTENTIAL risks a bank may face in the future if they approve the new application. It is NOT THE ONLY tool used by banks to evaluate your credit worthiness, as there are many other risk-mitigation criteria the banks can adopt, such as (list not exhaustive):
Reduced Margin of Financing
Higher Financing Rates
Good Potential for Higher Capital Appreciation for the Property
Strong Debt Servicing Ratio (Repayment Capability)
Additional Collaterals / Guarantee / Joint Applicant
Good Conduct of Other Existing Credit Facilities with own bank (e.g. Credit Cards, other loans).


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发表于 16-4-2011 09:43 AM | 显示全部楼层
新加坡HDB这项政策只是一厢情愿的,外国政府机关如何/会否配合就不得而知。

个人要不要申报则是自我意识的,心理有鬼就报咯。不要申报也无关紧要吧,最多HDB回收罢了。反正有 90% 估价赔偿回给你损失不大。
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发表于 16-4-2011 10:10 AM | 显示全部楼层
本来不容意,但经您一提,PAP人就有头绪了...
楼主贡献无量,SGGOV感谢您!
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发表于 16-4-2011 12:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
看看哪个政府卖小新的帐..
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发表于 16-4-2011 12:39 PM | 显示全部楼层
被查到屋子被收回時表才來靠北靠布
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发表于 16-4-2011 03:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
开这样的帖,放这样的标题,楼主是要挑战HDB吗????
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 楼主| 发表于 16-4-2011 06:14 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 byte77 于 17-4-2011 12:38 AM 编辑

我最不喜欢无缘无故的怕东怕西,凡事要弄个明白。
在这里只跟大家讨论看看有没有可能通过律师或小新品牌银行去大马明察暗访。


当然,追根究底,建屋局也无权过问在外国的银行的客户资料,大马土地局市政府国家银行等机关也不会跟超级有钱的建屋局集团好到把国民的资产资料奉献出来,除非它只请大马土著企业承包商建组屋。小新自己的银行都保护外国客户资料才吸引大笔外资进入,它有什么资格要求大马银行破格帮建屋局查底?


总结:
1. 不要跟在大马的小新所有品牌银行有任何瓜葛。
2. 不要一次汇一大笔钱回大马(换钱的会要你小新IC,有记录)
3. 不要在‘非死不可’(face%b00k)上面贴屋子照片资料炫耀,在互联网发达的小新,网上资料已经时常成为机关的呈堂证供。

4. 不要用自己名字申请大马固定电话以免姓名地址被登在电话簿里。
5. 5年之内不要常时间住在大马屋子,每星期都要住组屋几天。
6. 最重要的是闭上你的嘴巴,不要在任何人面前提起大马的屋子。

无论如何,循众马劳要求,很快我就要关帖了。
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发表于 16-4-2011 07:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢你的分享哦···
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发表于 16-4-2011 10:34 PM | 显示全部楼层
其实银行和银行之间都有联系的,银行 A 也可以向 银行 B 贷款的哦。

其实,放爸爸妈妈的名字买,最安全啦。
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 楼主| 发表于 16-4-2011 11:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 byte77 于 17-4-2011 12:39 AM 编辑
其实银行和银行之间都有联系的,银行 A 也可以向 银行 B 贷款的哦。
my1957 发表于 16-4-2011 10:34 PM


银行A和银行B借贷,只影响贷款利率,与揭露银行客户资料有什么关系?
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发表于 17-4-2011 07:54 AM | 显示全部楼层
回复 10# byte77


   这倒也是啦。不过有些马来西亚银行他们董事是新加坡人喔,会不会出卖马来西亚叻。
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发表于 17-4-2011 08:43 AM | 显示全部楼层
要查还不容易?塞点kopi给大马的就什么资料都找得出了
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 楼主| 发表于 17-4-2011 09:45 AM | 显示全部楼层
要查还不容易?塞点kopi给大马的就什么资料都找得出了
stanley851 发表于 17-4-2011 08:43 AM



建屋局请律师塞点kopi$给bank negara?想象力好丰富哦!
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发表于 17-4-2011 09:47 AM | 显示全部楼层
建屋局请律师塞点kopi$给bank negara?想象力好丰富哦!
byte77 发表于 17-4-2011 09:45 AM



    大马的惯例嘛,什么事都kopi (虽然不排除小数人)
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发表于 17-4-2011 11:40 AM | 显示全部楼层
好奇一件事,
如果組屋強迫被收回,
政府會還你錢嗎?
那麼跟銀行的貸款會怎樣?
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发表于 17-4-2011 12:37 PM | 显示全部楼层
总结是要买HDB就要老实。不老实即使今天没事, 也怕明天会被捉,睡也睡不好。。。。
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发表于 17-4-2011 08:53 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢你的分享哦···
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发表于 17-4-2011 09:51 PM | 显示全部楼层
谢谢分享。。小第从没有怕过。。不过会留意LZ讲的窍门。。如果HDB真的被收回的话就买CONDO咯
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