马国债巳达4114亿 赤字连继13年 股市又如何 ？

Billy

我想知道拿一个国家是赚钱的？
谁可以告诉我？想知道

cct2050

世界強國 top 1  是日本 。
khokhokho 发表于 14-2-2010 10:24 AM

    美元能到处攻城掠池
    主要是美国的世界第一军事力量和美国媒体的传播美式文化力量

khokhokho

回复  khokhokho

问题只是你们深信民联出来的谣言。

如果你有注意的话，你会发现民联都是会先暴出对 ...
there7888 发表于 13-2-2010 09:40 PM

會做事的人才，是不會如此大言的，不以言傷人，而要以德化人。
慕尤丁：民聯腐臭無力執政

2010-02-13

（柔佛‧麻坡）副首相丹斯里慕尤丁說，民聯已出現種種“腐臭”（busuk）跡象，這證明民聯只能成立聯合政黨，已無能力成為政府。

他指出，剛開始時，民聯給人一種“看似OK”的感覺；不過，日子一久，其實是“不OK”的，人民現在才醒悟，看清民聯的真面目。

他說，人民開始意識到民聯實質的鬥爭僅限於派系之間，卻不能擔當起領導人民的重任。

慕尤丁是週五（2月12日）晚上出席由巴莪國陣聯合武吉巴西華團神廟政黨聯辦的“一個大馬騰龍日，五穀豐收入虎年”新春晚會，在致詞時作出上述披露。

他承認，國陣在之前有不足之處，不過，各成員黨已正視並加以改進，只有一些成員黨仍須儘速處理“家務事”。

他說，政府會加把勁糾正及改進不足之處，為人民爭取權益，以提高選民對國陣的支持率

大馬不是沒錢，而是被那些貪官吃到不清不楚，國油一年給中央的錢，如果不是被他們亂花錢，亂吃掉，我敢肯定，大馬早就成為強國了。
   

there7888

回复 43# khokhokho

公正党的确是从巫统里面腐败后排出来的。

留下眼镜

楼主不了解股市和经济的话，就不要在这里开帖。这里的网友好一大笔储蓄投资在股市，不要随便发言，没有责任感。

楼主要讲经济，请深入的分析一番。

cct2050

所谓当局者迷，旁观者清
看看旁观者怎么说



国阵和皇室建立家族政经霸业 外资无法在我国立足   13-2-2010

    （吉隆坡12日讯）亚洲政经风险评估顾问公司（Political Economic Risk Consultancy，PERC）在其一月尾的报告中，道出了我国目前的风险指数正不断提高。

     该报告指出，单就今年一月份的政治局势看来，马来西亚正处于不稳定的状态，而外国媒体在报导我国政治新闻时也毫不留情，导致国外人士留下了不好的印象，而这便是外资却步的主因。

社会状况不稳定不全是主要导引 检讨并改进我国优势更重要

    经济评论人冯久玲接受《风云时报》的访问时表示，每天的负面新闻接踵而来，固然会影响我国对外资的吸引力，但是社会的不稳定会否成为外资却步的主因，这倒不一定。

    冯久玲指出，许多国家如中国和印尼，外资便是在这些国家局势出现不确定性的时候涌入的，这是因为外资认为他国有优势，导致外资肯入资该国。

     “我们更应该在这时候检讨，到底我国失去了哪一些优势，而我国到底要吸引哪一些外资进来，这是很重要的。”

     亚洲政经风险评估顾问公司是个以香港为基地的顾问公司，其主要业务是以提供亚洲国家政治经济风险评估研究报告。

     在评论我国的政经情况时，该顾问公司断言，我国的政经正被一小群“精英”操控和垄断，甚至足以让我国的形象被破坏，导致许多不明朗状况出现。 这群“精英”并无其他，便是指国阵和巫统的当权派内的人。

     时事评论人邱继玶也同意以上的论点，他指这不是什么新鲜的事。

一代传一代 皇室和国阵正建立家族霸业

      邱继玶指出，这少数的巫统，甚至是皇室的“精英”，在经营的就是这一种家族的霸业。从我国政治上来看，不难发现首相或在内阁中拥有高职的人，其家族成员在之前都是有显赫地位的人。

     他指出，“例如首相纳吉是第二任副首相敦阿都拉萨的儿子、内政部长希山慕丁也是家族其成员之一，而不止是政治，就连经济也是给这些人垄断了。他们为了确保权利不被动摇，会使力安排其家族后裔继承这霸业”

     邱继玶补充道，“外资商人即使有能力，也无从在我国立足，因为市场已经给他们垄断了”。

不会贸然改革而伤害本身的商业利益

       另外，亚洲政经风险评估顾问公司在其报告中还说，首相纳吉的政府转型计划越来越行不通，纳吉想要讨好众人，到最后谁都不能讨好。

       邱继玶也认同，他指：“纳吉的政府转型计划是不可能成功的，实行这些政策的人，都是需要通过目前的政治架构谋取个人利益的人，没有人会去落实一些会影响他们地位的政策。”  
“《一个马来西亚》的政策只是个外表华丽的空壳，一切到现在来看只是空谈，完全没有进展。”

     针对外资会考虑什么因素才会入资我国，邱继玶分析指有几样是比较关键的，这包括国家实行的法制精神到哪个程度、国家的透明程度、该国能否提供专业的人才以及国家市场的大小。

国家不透明 法律不能保障外资的权益

      邱继玶认为，我国的法律是不公正的，而且在前日（2月9日）联邦法院针对霹雳双包大臣案的判决的更加的证明了这一点的严重性。

      “投资者必须知道那个国家的法律是否能保障他们的生意，如果司法能被操控来维护当权者的利益，那么这会是外资却步的主要因素。”

     另外，邱继玶也提到一样和司法宫不公正息息相关的，那就是国家的透明度。

     “我国尚谈不上透明度高的国家，往往要揭发贪污案件是要先“拨开”重重的障碍，才能看清现实，在这样的情况下谁敢来我国？”。

人才外流 我国无法供应在国内的专才

      我国人才外流已经不是新鲜事，根据香港《亚洲周刊》的文章指出，马来西亚短短十八个月内，就有逾30万人移居国外，这还不包括在新加坡工作的庞大马来西亚公民。

     根据《亚洲周刊》2月14日（提前出版）的文章指，“从Plurk创办人云惟彬到创作女歌手戴佩妮，从为英国王室成员设计鞋子的周仰杰到率先研发随身碟的潘健成，从香港缴税最高的基金经理谢清海到国际名导演蔡明亮，他们都有一个共同身份--旅居海外的马来西亚人”（摘自http://news.cnwest.com/content/2010-02/05/content_2785695.htm）。

     邱继玶也表示，我国目前无法培育和留住市场要求的专才，在缺乏专业员工下，外资要投资的兴致会减少。

http://www.therocknews.com/dama/local/13678.html

cct2050

马哈迪推动的 PERKASA 将会在后天（17/2/2010）会见经济策划组，以延续30％土著股权。


Perkasa to give input on New Economic Model      


2010/02/14   
KUALA LUMPUR: Perkasa will meet the National Economic Advisory Councilon Wednesday to give feedback on the New Economic Model. The non-governmental organisation's president, Pasir Mas MP DatukIbrahim Ali said Perkasa would, during a closed-door meeting, forwardthe views it has collected from its own team of economists.

He said Perkasa would support the government's focus on economicgrowth, making the country more competitive and bringing in foreigndirect investment.

  However, Ibrahim added, Perkasa was more interested in pitching in its ideas of the distribution of wealth.

He said the New Economic Policy's agenda of ensuring Bumiputra a30 per cent stake in the country's economic pie has not been achievedyet.

"So, we want to see how the country, in its thrust to become acompetitive, developed nation, address Bumiputra rights in the NewEconomic Model.

  "This is our focus," he said.

Ibrahim said the NGO was not racist, but stressed that if wealthwas not divided equally among the races, there would be no guarantee of"real national integration" existing.

  "1Malaysia is a slogan. But the most important thing is how to make it work so that all races will be happy.

  "I believe that only after addressing this gap will we achieve 1Malaysia," he said.

  Ibrahim earlier launched Perkasa's youth, women and young women's wings.

  However, Ibrahim pledged that the movement - which champions Bumiputra rights - would not turn into a political party.

  Ibrahim said the NGO has created affiliates in all states and was now focussing on building district-level branches.

He said membership had swelled to the tens of thousands. Its firstgeneral assembly will be held at Dewan Tun Razak on March 27.

cct2050

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/2/14/focus/5668392&sec=focus

New platform for old mission   Sunday February 14, 2010

The appearance of a right wing Malay group, Perkasa, on the political landscape has caused ripples particularly given that its prime mover is the maverick politician Datuk Ibrahim Ali.

SO much has changed about Datuk Ibrahim Ali over his years as a Malay politician.

At the same time, some things about him just do not change. For one, he is still as loud as ever.



Malaychampion or racist?: Datuk Ibrahim Ali has worn many hats in hispolitical career but the initiator of a new Malay group known asPerkasa may have just donned his most controversial hat yet. – SIA HONGKIAU/ The Star


He speaks as though he is at a ceramah even during a normal conversation. At several points during this interview, the room seemed to vibrate from the boom of his voice.

His hands swung like karate chops in the air, the table shook, the coffee spilled onto the saucer and one’s ears felt numb afterwards.

The Pasir Mas MP is probably one of the few politicians around who can still go on loud and clear even if the sound system broke down in the middle of his speech.

Ibrahim has been controversial from as far as anyone can remember.

But he has just embarked on his most controversial role yet as the leader of Perkasa or Pertubuhan Pribumi Perkasa Malaysia.

Last week, Tun Dr Mahathir Mohamad launched Perkasa’s Selangor chapter where he stood on stage holding a keris in a rather half-hearted manner.

But perhaps the clearest hint that Perkasa is not another loony fringe group is that the Sultan of Selangor has agreed to officiate at its inaugural assembly next month.

Perkasa is ostensibly an NGO set up to articulate and defend Malay interests.

To date, the group has taken a strong stand against the High Court ruling on the Catholic Herald’s use of the term “Allah”. Ibrahim has even written a four-page letter on it to the Vatican.

It participated in the recent Malay protest in George Town against Penang Chief Minister Lim Guan Eng during which Ibrahim made a hard-hitting speech. It was the only group to defend Datuk Nasir Safar over the latter’s allegedly racist remarks.

But Ibrahim and his group have been labelled as ultra Malay, extreme right wing, hardline and even racist.

He has been criticised by quarters who think that such a group is taking the country backwards rather than forwards. The Internet chatter has vilified and thrashed him.

Ibrahim has been called many names over the years but he balks at being labelled a racist.

“I am not a racist. We are only asking what is due to the Malays under Article 153 of the Constitution. We are not saying, don’t give this or that to the non-Bumiputra. Nowhere in my speeches do I say take this from the Chinese, don’t give that to the Indians. I want to unite Malays in defending Article 153.

“So many police reports have been lodged in the last few months against people for saying all kinds of things. Were there any against me? None. I am always misunderstood,” said Ibrahim.

He said his group wants to defend Malay rights and privileges and he has said on previous occasions that if Malays do not come out and defend themselves, “others will climb on our heads.”

He insisted that he respects meritocracy but said the concept is not fair for as long as the Malays are still lagging behind in the economy and education.

“I also have pride. I would prefer to be respected because of merit rather than quotas,” he said.

Perkasa’s supporters are making no apologies for their communal world view and their defence of Malay rights. The group is also uncompromising on the question of Islam and the royalty which are core to the Malay identity. Or as Dr Mahathir put it a little more politely: “Perkasa represents a number of Malay opinions.”

But no matter how strenuously Ibrahim argues that he is merely defending and championing Malay rights and issues, there will be people out there who will find him too right wing for their taste.

In other words, Perkasa is likely to come across as one of those politically incorrect outfits in civil society. “I don’t agree with everything he is saying or doing but he wants to defend the Malay agenda, to help Malays be equals in this country,” said fellow Kelantanese Datuk Alwi Che Ahmad.

However, said Alwi who is also Kok Lanas assemblyman, there should be a limit to how far Perkasa takes Malay issues.

“This country cannot accept ultra politics. It is moderation that binds us together. That’s what the majority of people want,” he said.

Uncomfortable situation

Umno has been the melting pot for Malays ranging from the moderate to the conservative and the ultra. But this is the post-March 8 era, the political terrain has changed and any party which wants to be in power has to dominate the middle ground because it is this segment of the population who will decide who is in power.

Even Umno is not at all comfortable with Perkasa.

“Feelings in Umno are divided. Some of us see Ibrahim as the Malay equivalent to Tian Chua of PKR or Lim Guan Eng of DAP,” said Alwi.

At the same time, there will always be a segment of society who see things from the communal viewpoint and who feel strongly about it.

In its bid to control the middle ground, Umno has left a leadership vacuum over the opinion ground occupied by the far right.

Some in Umno say it is good that Ibrahim controls this space rather than someone else, a sort of “better the devil you know” kind of argument.

Besides, it makes sense to channel these sentiments in a mainstream way rather than allow it to go underground or astray. This way, they can be monitored and, if necessary, controlled.

Ibrahim, 59, has a mega-personality. He is not afraid to be different, has bold views and there is never a dull moment when talking with him even if one does not agree with much of what he says.

He has great stories to tell just as the wall of photographs in his cramped little office tells of a man who has travelled a long road.

The photograph of him with Cuba’s Fidel Castro comes with a fascinating tale of their meeting in Kyoto. There are lots of pictures of him with Dr Mahathir who is said to be incredibly fond of him and whom Ibrahim adulates.

But the centrepiece of the wall is a photograph of Ibrahim with the late Ayatollah Khomeini.

There is also a bed in a corner where the late Tun Ghafar Baba used to take naps. Ghafar was a rather lonely man after retiring as Deputy Prime Minister and used to hang out at Ibrahim’s office.

Perkasa, some say, is the national version of the Kelantan Malay Action Council that Ibrahim formed in 1999 to defend the Kelantan Palace, which was then caught in the middle of the conflict between PAS and Umno. The Sultan found Ibrahim to be such interesting company that they grew quite close and even went for holidays together.

Perkasa is still a work in progress.

Dr Mahathir has advised Ibrahim that Perkasa’s cause must be within the framework of the Constitution. The former Premier has said by all means fight for Malay rights, but do not oppose the rights of other races.

Ibrahim has no intention of turning Perkasa into another political party.

But Perkasa will be a very powerful platform for his politics. Right now, he is a an MP without a party, or what is known as an independent.

The optimist in him sees independents as the way to go in the future.

“Independents have become a factor now that a two-coalition system is in formation, We can determine who becomes the Government,” he said.

It will be interesting to see where he takes Perkasa and also where Perkasa will take him in the new political landscape.

c56733

其实负债的另一边，是拥有这笔资产的有钱人。
就看你如何看待。。。

HanTuAh

楼主不了解股市和经济的话，就不要在这里开帖。这里的网友好一大笔储蓄投资在股市，不要随便发言，没有责任 ...
留下眼镜 发表于 15-2-2010 11:46 AM

    KLCI +400%
2010  1250  + 25%
2000  1000  -  20%
1990  1250  + 400%
1980  250           

Hong Kong Hang Seng Index　+2650%
2010  20750  +150%
2000    8000  +140%
1990    3000  +400%  
1980     750

p/s: 1980 RM0.27=HKD 1
       2010 RM0.46=HKD 1

Singapore Straits Times Index　
2010                   2800
2007                   3750  
31 August 1998    885.26

p/s: 1980  RM1     = SGD 1
       2010 RM2.40 = SGD 1

  Share price 历史比较
    MAS vs SIA
    TM vs Singtel
   KL基建 vs SMRT
    PSCI vs Keppel
   Maybank vs DBS
        RM vs SGD

这就是国阵的大马,你投资股票的回酬给国阵的经营不当拖累！！


祝大家恭喜发财！！

cct2050

KLCI +400%
2010  1250  + 25%
2000  1000  -  20%
1990  1250  + 400%
1980  250          ...
HanTuAh 发表于 16-2-2010 12:15 AM

   用图表 比较容易懂

KLSE        1990 - 2010      1250 - 1253  原地踏步





HANG SENG    1993 - 2010    2000 -> 20268   





STI       1990 - 2010             1550 --> 2759

HanTuAh

用图表 比较容易懂

KLSE        1990 - 2010      1250 - 1253  原地踏步





HANG SE ...
cct2050 发表于 16-2-2010 02:39 AM

这图对STI不公平
1998年下半年自缀马股与STI分家后STI才八百多点
STI  31Aug98才算开始

khokhokho

獅子是王中王，外面的任何動物都無法敵獅子。

不過獅子最後死了，大家知道原因嗎 ?

there7888

奧巴馬︰刺激經濟免大蕭條
(明報)2010年2月18日 星期四 08:20

美國    總統奧巴馬    說，一年前簽署逾7千億美元    刺激經濟計劃，成功創造2百萬職位，使經濟避免出現大蕭條。

奧巴馬17日指出，一年前推出的龐大的刺激經濟計劃在政治上不是一個容易的決定，但他當時別無選擇。他強調，這個計劃改變了美國經濟急劇下滑的趨勢，並為美國未來經濟發展奠定堅實基礎。

但奧巴馬亦承認，對許多仍處於失業的美國人來說，當前經濟還算不上真正復蘇。他並且警告，隨著7870億美元的開支用盡，可能部分地方政府將面臨新的困難，部分政府公務員將會失業。

同日，統籌負責7870億美元經濟刺激計劃的美國副總統拜登也在《今日美國報》發表評論，強調隨著刺激經濟計劃的繼續實施，更多就業職位將會出現，新的投資變化將會確保美國經濟仍傲視全球。

一年前的2月17日，奧巴馬簽署總額7870億美元刺激經濟計劃，也是美國政府自二戰以來最龐大開支計劃。但反對者指出，這個計劃並未能真正振興美國經濟、創造奧巴馬承諾的就業崗位，反而令美國民眾背上沉重的債務包袱。
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如果这样的东西发生在国阵肯定会被说成 番薯换?????

khokhokho

奧巴馬︰刺激經濟免大蕭條
如果这样的东西发生在国阵肯定会被说成 番薯换?????

there7888 发表于 18-2-2010 08:35 AM

美國已經沒錢了 未來不知還有什麼國家肯買進美國的國債了 。

中國減少買進美國的國債券，而日本已經超越了中國，成為最大美國國債券的買家。

日本已經面對自已國家的負債問題了，美國的靠山 死路一條。

一但沒人要再買進新的美國國債時，美國就會變成了負債國。(听不好，最近一直發戰爭武器之財)。

there7888

聯儲局在美股收市後上調貼現率２５點子至０﹒７５％

金融风暴要来了？还是经济已经复苏了？

HanTuAh

獅子是王中王，外面的任何動物都無法敵獅子。

不過獅子最後死了，大家知道原因嗎 ?
khokhokho 发表于 16-2-2010 08:16 AM

    欠债被债主逼死

wings007

獅子是王中王，外面的任何動物都無法敵獅子。

不過獅子最後死了，大家知道原因嗎 ?
khokhokho 发表于 16-2-2010 08:16 AM

它看到那条马无里头的表演，无里头的动作而笑死了。

cct2050

LZ只是民联的抢手，只要对国家不好的东西都会大唱。（不过民联州的坏事不会大唱）

在股市里大家应该 ...
there7888 发表于 13-2-2010 11:06 AM

大家大赢特赢了吗 ？





被伊斯兰恐怖分子保卫的以色列股市



印度股市


香港

koo_2828

回复 41# Billy


    新加坡，，香港。