反击大作战！筹备会议

2750一号

对了，突然想到，买产容易守产难。
就要请教朱古力佬，这间店屋一年的杂费大概是多少（包括门牌税等）？

还有，在最坏的情况下，还有什么突发事件会发生？

kitkatlow

哪里周遭已经发展完毕，应该不会有新的发展，未来五年内大手笔改路的可能性不高。除非雪州忽然迁都，从 shah alam 搬去其他地方。那么就会影响shah alam 的经济。

另一个最坏的打算，就是政府裁员。那一区是马来人地方，大部分都是靠政府吃饭。如果州政府忽然裁员，的确会大大影响。

以目前来说，就算 97 经济风暴重临，对其打击也不会太大。

2750二号

从这几天的讯息来看，这次经济风暴比我想象中还严重，我看今年经济真的很糟糕。110万价格又没有机会再下降呢？

2750一号

刚才船运的朋友打来问有没有机会做我公司生意，才知道最近的出口掉了近半的生意额。。。。

2750二号

原帖由 2750一号 于 14-1-2009 12:48 PM 发表
刚才船运的朋友打来问有没有机会做我公司生意，才知道最近的出口掉了近半的生意额。。。。

前几个月客户几乎是鱼肉，因为船期很满。如今，价格掉了30%左右。

2750一号

有那么多呀。。。。。
以后如果自己有机会做出口，要记得这个教训。

2750二号

Kikat!

要是我们二月份打算购买，
头期何时需要交还？
转名手续最长拖多久？
何时需要另外的20k？

2750二号

谢谢巧克力给我们上了一堂 房产投资课程，受益不浅。
也让我个人对这投资有更大的信心

我们下一步如何做？
比如
新年前讨论公司成立和规则
新年后注册公司然后 开始 那个店铺计划？
如何？
ahbengh还没有加入空间

2750二号

各位新年快乐。。

现在我们可以继续讨论投资计划了。。。。
从3号口中知道，4号有一个好投资。。。
在JB有价值200K的店屋，但租金却有rm1200-1400以上。。。回酬率至少7.5%....
我们是否要专攻 110万那间。。
还是从一两个 小店面开始。。。。

2750一号

可以的话，先注册公司／买已注册滴。。。

2750二号

原帖由 2750一号 于 6-2-2009 10:44 AM 发表
可以的话，先注册公司／买已注册滴。。。

谁有空壳公司〉？

2750二号

http://thinkproperty.com.my/real ... -by-March-2009.html

Lets talk KLCC because that is where the fun is.Prices will not just drop by March 2009 they will fall for a long time to come.I do not see a single reason why prices can even stabilise in 09.If anyone thinks prices may rise in the near future then they are clearly deluded!Caveat Emptor..BUYER BEWARE.

Lets establish some of the reasons for a continual fall if not collapse in KLCC property

1.Oversupply.....from memory according to a WTW 2008 report ,at the end of 2006 there were around 2500 units around KLCC...this doubled by end of 2007 and doubled again by end of 2008 to around 10000 units give or take.How many of these are for own use...I believe around 10%.Therefore 90% are pure speculation with multiple purchases in many cases.Therefore as the financial world collapses and things do not pick up ASAP there will be forced sellers.A trickle will become a flood as people head for the exit.I am a share trader and shares are no different...look at all sharemarkets worldwide.I don't see ANY rising

2.You may say well if you own a Cendana unit or a Binjai residence then rent it....good idea but to who?The supply has gone up 7500 units in 2 years and who are the new renters filling that supply.When commodities were booming MAYBE some of the international companies would send new staff to KL...but as oil has collapsed from 150 to 35 USD per barrel I DON"T think I would rely on resource companies in a hurry.I agree that you can rent lets say ONE Cendana unit at 8000 per month but as probably 80% of the owners are speculators looking for a tenant too ,do you think that the next 100 landlords at Cendana can also find a WILLING RM 8000 paying tenant.What nonsense !!!That is a dream for the deluded to believe in.I doubt whether the 100th landlord at Cendana or Binjai or Marc could get RM 4000 for a 2400sqft unit...no RM 4000 will prove to be a dream...maybe 2500..Furthermore the supply is still coming!!!!!I think Starbucks should start giving them away with Lattes...mind you Starbucks is in as much trouble as KLCC units these days closing stores regularly.

3.Foreigners are in trouble too.Tony Darwell ,head of Singapore research at Nomura Singapore thinks Singapore realestate luxury end will fall 43% in 2008-2010...yes 43%...Now if I was a Singaporean and my property in Singapore fell 40% chances are I am financially in trouble so what will i do.Well my property in Singapore may have fallen but HEY I live in Singapore and my family is in Singapore so I will keep that one and sell the investment properties WHEREVER they are....more sellers!

4.Value for money argument...please remember cheap gets cheaper.Ask people who are long shares at the moment!

5.Look at property stocks.Their trend is down and continues to be down.No hope shown in those graphs.Remember share prices are forward looking indicators.Prices usually start to rise BEFORE the underlying business gets better so usually share prices are rising when things are still terrible BUT buyers of the stock see the bottom is in and push the price higher.No sign of that in Malaysia or elsewhere.

6.Money is tight worldwide.You need easy money to fuel speculation and the easy credit has gone!Game over!IT WAS EASY CREDIT THAT FUELED THE BUBBLE

7.I lived around KLCC and looked at Binjai residences everynight ...it is a DARK building...NO lights means no renters or people living there.NOT good sign

8.Who will the new buyers be????????????I have NO idea.The middle East has a collapsing oil price to deal with.Singapore and Hong Kong are deteriorating fast.High paid finance people have been fired wordwide or salaries reduced so they are not buyers!
The Brits,Aussies all have falling currencies VS RM so prices are still high for them EVEN as apartment prices in RM fall.I have NO idea who is a potential buyer anymore.

9.Malaysians will come to the rescue.Impossible!They have all lost 40% on the share market and are seeing their PAPER property profits disappear faster than the oxygen out of an overcrowded monorail carriage!Hey they only want to sell the foreigners anyway...but the foreigners have gone to sort out their own financial troubles .

SORRY GUYS BUT PROPERTY IS OVER.PLEASE REMEMBER MARKETS..ALL MARKETS OVERSHOOT .THEY OVERSHOT ON THE UPSIDE AND NOW THEY WILL OVERSHOOT ON THE DOWNSIDE.THEREFORE WHEN PRICES ARE REASONABLE I BELIEVE THEY WILL STILL FALL LOWER.Go ask the Japanese who have seen 18 years of sharemarket declines of some 80% and property declines of some 50-80% around Tokyo.I lived there for 12 years so I know the pain.

Be WARNED and BE Careful.Cheap can get ceaper and invariably does

HURRICANE