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发表于 15-6-2016 02:50 PM | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
A 66-year-old Singaporean failed in his bid to get senior citizen pension benefits in New Zealand after a tribunal found he had not first used his Central Provident Fund (CPF) money, as advised.The Social Security Appeal Authority was not convinced by his concerns of being traced by the Singapore authorities if he applied to withdraw his CPF money, as there could be "significant repercussions" for his two grown-up sons, who were liable for national service (NS).                googletag.cmd.push(function() {      googletag.display("dfp-ad-news_imu1");    });    "(He) was completely unable to explain what action the Singapore authorities might be able to take against him or his sons if they became aware of his residence in New Zealand," said the Social Security Appeal Authority of New Zealand in decision grounds released last month.Superannuation benefits of about NZ$600 (S$570) are payable fortnightly to New Zealand citizens or permanent residents over 65 who have lived in the country for at least 10 years since they turned 20, five of which must be since they turned 50 years old, according to its website.But the payout is modified according to conditions such as deductions from income earned elsewhere or abroad.According to the decision grounds, the Singapore citizen, who is also a New Zealand citizen, was granted the benefit when he turned 65 in November 2014 but he disclosed in his application that he had lived in Singapore for 50 years.He had worked in various jobs in Singapore before emigrating to New Zealand in 2000 with his wife and two sons, then aged eight and 10.The Auckland-based man, who was granted citizenship in 2004, was told by New Zealand's Ministry of Social Development to apply to Singapore's CPF Board to withdraw funds from there.He objected and failed to comply with the July 2015 deadline issued by the New Zealand ministry. A month later, his New Zealand Superannuation was suspended.He initially claimed it was discriminatory to require people from countries that paid pensions, such as Singapore, to be required to apply for those pensions, which were then deducted from their entitlement to New Zealand Superannuation.He pursued the case before the two-member appeal authority, arguing among other things that his two sons, now aged 25 and 23 years and having promising careers, could be affected if his whereabouts were known to the Singapore authorities through his CPF application.The man, who was not named, suggested his sons might be forced to return to Singapore to do national service and be prosecuted as enlistment defaulters. Under Singapore laws, eligible persons who fail to register for national service may be fined up to $10,000 or jailed up to three years or both.But the tribunal pointed out that the alleged offences under the Singapore Enlistment Act were not recognised as extraditable offences under New Zealand law and prosecution was, therefore, "remote"."We are not satisfied that there is any real danger or disadvantage to either the appellant or his two sons if the appellant's whereabouts were to become known to the Singapore Government," wrote the Wellington-based appeal authority.It added that the man, having worked variously in Singapore as an aircraft mechanic, hotel cashier and elsewhere had maintained CPF deposits from which he could apply to withdraw funds, since he was already past 62 years old, the minimum age for CPF withdrawal.
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 楼主| 发表于 15-6-2016 02:51 PM | 显示全部楼层




一个66岁的新加坡人没在他的出价在新西兰获得老年人养老金后,法庭发现他没有第一次用自己的中央公积金(CPF)钱,advised.The社会保障上诉机构没有被说服他的担忧被新加坡当局,如果他申请撤回其公积金的钱,因为有可能是“显著反响”他的两个已经长大成人的儿子,谁是为国家服务(NS)负责追踪。 googletag.cmd.push(函数(){的googletag.display(“DFP-AD-news_imu1”);}); “(他)是完全无法解释什么动作新加坡当局也许可以采取对他或他的儿子,如果他们意识到了他在新西兰居住地”之称的社会保障上诉新西兰当局在去年发布的决定的理由约NZ $ 600(S $ 570)month.Superannuation福利支付每两周新西兰公民或永久居民65岁以上,因为他们满20岁谁住在该国至少10年,因为他们原来50年其中五个必须老,根据其网站。但是奖金为根据,如从收入中获得其他地方或abroad.According该决定的理由扣减条件修改后,新加坡公民,谁也是新西兰公民,被授予好处,当他转身2014年11月65,但他在自己的应用程序,他在新加坡生活了50 years.He与他的妻子和两个儿子,然后八岁和10.奥克兰移居新西兰在2000年之前在新加坡的各项工作已经披露工作基于人,谁在2004年获得公民身份,是由新西兰社会发展部对申请新加坡的中央公积金局从那儿将反对而未能遵守新西兰教育部发布的2015年7月的最后期限撤出资金。一个月后,他的新西兰养老金被停职。
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 楼主| 发表于 15-6-2016 02:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
他最初声称这是歧视性的,要求人国家的养老金支付,如新加坡,将需要申请的养老金,然后将他们的权利新西兰Superannuation.He扣除两名成员呼吁前奉行的情况下,权威,除其他事项外,他的两个儿子,现在年龄在25和23年,有前途的职业,可如果他的下落他通过CPF application.The的人,谁没有命名知道新加坡当局的影响争论,建议他的儿子可能被迫回新加坡做全国的服务和被起诉为入伍拖欠。根据新加坡法律,谁不为国家注册服务的合资格人士可被罚款高达$ 10,000或监禁长达三年both.But法庭指出,根据新加坡征兵法的涉嫌罪行没有被看作是新形势下的可引渡的罪行新西兰法律和起诉了,因此,“远程”,“我们不满意,认为有任何真正的危险或不利上诉人或他的两个儿子,如果上诉人的下落成为众所周知的新加坡政府,写道:”惠灵顿基于上诉authority.It补充说,该男子已经在新加坡做过各种工作,作为飞机机械师,酒店收银员和其他地方保持了从他可以申请提取资金公积金存款,因为他已经是过去的62岁,最小年龄为CPF撤出。
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发表于 15-6-2016 03:08 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
偷雞不著就去叫雞啦!


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发表于 15-6-2016 03:14 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
纽西兰那边不了解这边看得到用不到的处境
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 楼主| 发表于 15-6-2016 03:29 PM | 显示全部楼层
jellyfish_8 发表于 15-6-2016 03:14 PM
纽西兰那边不了解这边看得到用不到的处境

鬼佬太了解了。。。
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发表于 15-6-2016 03:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kcchiew 于 15-6-2016 03:57 PM 编辑

新西兰人不了解就算了,楼上几位也不了解,太奇怪了。

他既然已经是新西兰公民,就算不是66岁,他会不能提cpf?
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 楼主| 发表于 15-6-2016 04:13 PM | 显示全部楼层
kcchiew 发表于 15-6-2016 03:55 PM
新西兰人不了解就算了,楼上几位也不了解,太奇怪了。

他既然已经是新西兰公民,就算不是66岁,他会不能提cpf?

他就是不想。。。
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发表于 15-6-2016 04:16 PM | 显示全部楼层
kcchiew 发表于 15-6-2016 03:55 PM
新西兰人不了解就算了,楼上几位也不了解,太奇怪了。

他既然已经是新西兰公民,就算不是66岁,他会不能提cpf?

这个人肯定有HDB,每个月有租金收,所以不肯放弃新加坡国籍。
他的理想情况是:
1。每个月拿租金
2。每个月拿CPF
3。每个月拿新西兰的养老退休金。
4。小新政府不知道他有新西兰国籍。
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发表于 15-6-2016 04:21 PM | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 kcchiew 于 15-6-2016 04:22 PM 编辑
robbins123 发表于 15-6-2016 04:16 PM
这个人肯定有HDB,每个月有租金收,所以不肯放弃新加坡国籍。
他的理想情况是:
1。每个月拿租金
2。每个月拿CPF
3。每个月拿新西兰的养老退休金。
4。小新政府不知道他有新西兰国籍。

有点道理。

nz600在物价高那里不算多,何必贪那点小钱而把事情闹大?
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发表于 15-6-2016 04:27 PM | 显示全部楼层
kcchiew 发表于 15-6-2016 04:21 PM
有点道理。

nz600在物价高那里不算多,何必贪那点小钱而把事情闹大?

华文翻译有错误。按英文报导,NZD600 是FORTNIGHTLY。 不是每个月。NZD1200 + HDB 租金(2000-3000)+ CPF月金, 臭臭都有5000。




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发表于 15-6-2016 07:47 PM 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
kcchiew 发表于 15-6-2016 03:55 PM
新西兰人不了解就算了,楼上几位也不了解,太奇怪了。

他既然已经是新西兰公民,就算不是66岁,他会不能提cpf?

他应该是保留双国籍,没有割掉这里的,享受两边的利益。

现在爆出来鸟,回来等打鞭吧
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