國事家事天下事？

NewFuture

如題。。。


http://mothership.sg/2016/04/sts ... s-into-family-feud/

ST’s decision not to publish Lee Wei Ling’s commentary escalates into family feud

And suddenly, it appears that

It has come to this.

Lee Wei Ling (LWL), who is currently engaging in an ongoing feud with the editors of The Straits Times, have disclosed the exchange of emails that transpired between them.

The exchange of emails reveal the following:


1. She used “dishonourable” to describe someone

In one of the most startling revelations, LWL described that she and someone called “HL”, are at odds “on a matter of principle”, and in this regard, pertaining to the one-year death anniversary of their father and founding Prime Minister Lee Kuan Yew.

She even claimed that “HL has no qualms abusing his power to hv a commemoration just one year after LKY died” even though, in her own words, Lee Kuan Yew’s death last year was “so vivid, no one will forget it in one year.”

She ended the email with this:

“But if the power that be wants to establish a dynasty, LKY’s daughter will not allow LKY’s name to be sullied by a dishonourable son.”

Who is “HL”? Is HL who we think she is referring to?

2. LWL accused SPH of being controlled by the government

“The powers that be commands SPH, and no one in SPH dares to stand up to the powers that be to say, ‘you cannot abuse your power.'”

3. Blogging vs Publishing

After LWL threatened to blog her story if ST didn’t publish the article unedited, her editor, Ivan Fernandez, explained the difference between blogging and publishing.

“Blogging is a personal activity. I don’t see any issue in what you choose to blog about. Publishing, of course, carries joint responsibilities (legal, etc).
Certainly, it’s not fair to any organisation to expect it to publish one version of a column and to then put an “unedited” version online.”

4. Ivan Fernandez didn’t think blogging means posting the story on Facebook.

With all the talk about blogging, Fernandez was clearly taken aback with the publication of the story on Facebook.

“You had already posted it on FB but I had no inkling from below.”

5. Ivan Fernandez CC-ed the email to SPH’s bigwigs Patrick Daniel, Warren Fernandez and Han Fook Kwang.

From: Ivan Fernandez [mailto:ivanf@sph.com.sg]
Sent: Monday, March 28, 2016 5:26 PM
To: Lee Wei Ling
Cc: Patrick Daniel; Warren Fernandez; Han Fook Kwang
Subject: Fw: Lee Kuan Yew would have been distressed by the hero-worship at one year anniversary following his death (final draft, 1339 words)

For your info, Patrick Daniel is the editor-in-chief, Han Fook Kwang is the Editor-At-Large, and Warren Fernandez is the editor.

The exchange of emails raised a few questions:

1. Has anyone cared enough to ask LWL about her emotional state?

LWL has been posting a number of FB posts and quite a number of them are more emotionally charged than her widely known commentaries in the ST.

From the exchange, it appears like LWL is acting like someone who is unhappy because she did not get her way.

If you read the full email exchanges between LWL and Ivan Fernandez, this is the sense that you will get: Ivan is being quite professional, while LWL is the one who is being uncooperative.

Here is an example:

Ivan Fernandez: Noted, Wei Ling. On blogging, my view is that there’s no problem in regular columnists to write about any subject they choose. That’s what I meant by “no issue”. But it would defy logic for two versions of a published column to be put in the public domain.

LWL: Fine. I had told u, I want the draft in my final form out as I wrote it, and am willing to not hv it

2. Will Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong respond to her sister’s criticisms?

If “HL” is who we think LWL is referring to, it is probably the first time that someone has criticised Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong as a “dishonorable son”.

It is also very unfortunate that it was his younger sister who did so.

Much as we would have preferred that LWL conduct her disagreement within the family and not in the public, does PM Lee see the need to clarify with the public on the issue?

NewFuture

ST決定不公佈李瑋玲的評論升級為家族世仇

突然間，似乎

它已經到了這一點。

李瑋玲（LWL），誰是目前從事與海峽時報的編輯正在進行的世仇，都透露，他們之間蒸發電子郵件的交流。

電子郵件的交流顯示以下：


她用“可恥”來形容某人

在最令人吃驚的啟示之一，全方位學習描述了她和別人稱為“HL”，是在“關於原則問題”的賠率，並在這方面，有關其父親的一年死亡週年開國總理李光耀。

她甚至聲稱“HL沒有疑慮濫用職權到HV紀念活動僅僅一年後LKY死亡”，即使在她自己的話說，李光耀去世，去年是“如此生動，沒有人會忘記它在一年“。

她結束了電子郵件這樣的：

“但是，如果是這樣的權力要建立一個王朝，LKY的女兒將不允許由一個不光彩的兒子來玷污LKY的名字。”

誰是“HL”？是誰HL我們認為她是指？

2.全方位學習指責被政府控制的SPH

“對權力的命令SPH，也沒有人在SPH敢站起來的權力，是說，'你不能濫用你的力量。”

3.博客VS出版

全方位學習威脅到她的博客的故事，如果ST沒有發表文章未經編輯後，她的編輯，伊万·費爾南德斯解釋說，博客和出版之間的區別。

“博客是個人行為。我沒有看到你選擇在博客上寫下了任何問題。出版，當然，進行連帶責任（法律等）。
當然，這是不公平的任何組織期待它發布一個列的一個版本，並然後把一個“未經編輯”的在線版“。

4.伊万·費爾南德斯沒想到博客張貼的手段Facebook上的故事。

隨著所有人都在談論博客，費爾南德斯顯然嚇了一跳與Facebook的故事刊物拍攝。

“你已經張貼在FB，但我沒有從下面端倪。”

5.伊万·費爾南德斯CC-ED電子郵件至SPH的大佬們帕特里克·丹尼爾·沃倫·費爾南德斯和漢福KWANG。

來源：伊万·費爾南德斯[至mailto：ivanf@sph.com.sg]
發送時間：週一，2016年3月28日下午5:26
要：李瑋玲
抄送：帕特里克·丹尼爾;沃倫·費爾南德斯;韓福KWANG
主題：轉發：李光耀將被英雄崇拜在一週年之際跟隨他的死亡心疼（最終稿1339字）

為了您的信息，帕特里克·丹尼爾是編輯，總編輯，漢福KWANG是特約編輯和沃倫·費爾南德斯是編輯器。

電子郵件的交流提出了幾個問題：

1.有沒有人關心不夠問全方位學習她的精神狀態？

全方位學習已經發布了一些FB的職位和相當多的人都更充滿感情比ST她廣為人知的評論。

從交易所，它看起來就像是LWL喜歡演戲的人誰是不開心，因為她沒有得到她的方式。

如果你讀全方位學習和伊万·費爾南德斯之間的完整的電子郵件交流，這是你會得到的感覺：伊万是相當專業的，而全方位學習是誰是不合作的人。

下面是一個例子：

伊万·費爾南德斯：注意到，魏玲。在博客，我的觀點是，有定期專欄作家沒問題寫他們選擇的任何話題。這就是我的意思是“沒有問題。”但是，這將違背邏輯被投入已發布列的兩個版本在公共領域。

全方位學習：好的。我告訴U，我想草案中我最終形式出，因為我寫的，並願意不HV它

2.將總理李顯龍回應妹妹的批評？

如果“HL”是誰，我們認為全方位學習是指，它可能是第一次有人批評總理李顯龍為“可恥的兒子。”

這也是非常不幸的是，這是他的妹妹誰這樣做了。

就像我們本來希望全方位學習在家庭中，而不是在公眾進行她不同意，不李總理認為有必要澄清

NewFuture

谷歌厲害。
HL素紅蓮。。。

ohia2016

最终可能被HL捉进IMH

kcchiew

我的第一印像是：“你们不刊登我的文章，就是没有言论自由！”

有投过稿的都知道，“不是每天都是星期天的”；有时是人家改了一大段，才刊登出来，有些直接就丢垃圾桶，除非我附上回邮信封（现在应该不需要回邮信封吧？）。

NewFuture

很明顯，
第一家庭成員間的溝通與關係出現了問題。
意見竟然要通過社交媒體，報章與第三者來溝通。。。

NewFuture

不懂會不會被起訴？

NewFuture

天下事來了。。。


http://www.orientaldaily.com.my/ ... al/gn45635010488449

蛇仔明

这种“家事国事天下事”还真的是不关马劳的事...

NewFuture

蛇仔明 发表于 10-4-2016 08:00 PM
这种“家事国事天下事”还真的是不关马劳的事...

那麼去看廣告吧！


http://cforum1.cari.com.my/forum ... 839504&mobile=2

NewFuture

http://newnation.sg/2016/04/lee- ... friend-on-facebook/


Lee Wei Ling & Roy Ngerng to add each other as friend on Facebook

They are both diametrically opposed to something.

Lee Wei Ling and Roy Ngerng are this close to adding each other as friend on Facebook.
This after they discovered they might share something in common.
Singaporeans from all walks of life, who saw this development, said they are heartened by the show of solidarity.
One Singaporean, Shang Fa Ting, said it is not rare for siblings in Singapore to take each other to court: “Roy can provide some valuable tips.”
Other locals said they understand that it is from the family that most irony in life stems.
Ai Ren Nee, another local, said: “All these things are what someone’s father would not have wanted stemmed from a point being made about how all these things are what someone’s father would not have wanted.”
At press time, all popcorn in Singapore have sold out.

ohia2016

kcchiew 发表于 10-4-2016 06:31 PM
我的第一印像是：“你们不刊登我的文章，就是没有言论自由！”

有投过稿的都知道，“不是每天都是星期天的”；有时是人家改了一大段，才刊登出来，有些直接就丢垃圾桶，除非我附上回邮信封（现在应该不需要回邮信封吧？）。

公主乃千歲，改的人不想活了。。。

鞭神鞭夠力

ohia2016 发表于 11-4-2016 07:39 AM
公主乃千歲，改了人不想活了。。。

有點像木乃伊。。。。。。

ohia2016

鞭神鞭夠力 发表于 11-4-2016 08:31 AM
有點像木乃伊。。。。。。

sweet 17

jack_chong

这些是家事，不关马劳的事。。。

ohia2016

jack_chong 发表于 11-4-2016 08:39 AM
这些是家事，不关马劳的事。。。

利家是malao的保護神阿

ohia2016

ohia2016 发表于 11-4-2016 08:38 AM
sweet 17

喵喵國小喵喵

ohia2016 发表于 11-4-2016 08:41 AM
利家是malao的保護神阿

前田利家？

前田 利家（まえだ としいえ）とは、戦国時代から安土桃山時代にかけての武将、戦国大名。加賀藩主前田氏の祖。豊臣政権の五大老の一人。
尾張国海東郡荒子村（現・名古屋市中川区荒子）の荒子城主前田利春の四男。はじめ小姓として織田信長に仕え、青年時代は赤母衣衆として従軍し、槍の名手であったため「槍の又左」の異名を持った。その後柴田勝家の与力として、北陸方面部隊の一員として各地を転戦し、能登一国23万石を拝領し大名となる。
信長が本能寺の変により明智光秀に討たれると、はじめ柴田勝家に付くが、後に羽柴秀吉に臣従した。以後、豊臣家の宿老として秀吉の天下平定事業に従軍し、加賀国・越中国を与えられ加賀藩百万石の礎を築く。また、豊臣政権五大老に列せられ、豊臣秀頼の傅役（後見人）を任じられる。秀吉の死後、対立が顕在化する武断派と文治派の争いに仲裁役として働き、覇権奪取のため横行する徳川家康の牽制に尽力するが、秀吉の死の8ヶ月後に病死した。

ohia2016

喵喵國小喵喵 发表于 11-4-2016 10:53 AM
前田利家？

托塔天王李靖

jellyfish_8

NewFuture 发表于 10-4-2016 07:06 PM
很明顯，
第一家庭成員間的溝通與關係出現了問題。
意見竟然要通過社交媒體，報章與第三者來溝通。。。

坡小没有whatsapp,没有line,没有Facebook messenger,没有微信给兄妹聊聊天啊，都是电话的错