你是哪一种人？E, S, B, I

ahloke88

管道的故事。我在这里跟大家分享一个故事，是这样的：
    在从前，有一个奇怪的村子，除了雨水，唯一的水源就是来自于在5公里以外的湖泊。为了村子里的百姓们都可使用水，村长决定聘用两个年轻人，把水运到来村子里，而报酬由他们的运水量来计算。村长给了他们两个经营权。经营权持有者jason听了很兴奋，买了两个水桶，马上投入了工做。jason每天早上起得比别人早，为了是要在人们未开始用水前，把村里的大水槽给装满。在短短的三个月内，jason的收入增加了一倍，而他再买两个水桶，那他就可以一次运4桶的水，再增加来回的次数。在两个月后，他的收入在增加了3倍，而他也成为村子里最有富的人了。。。。。。to be continue

jasonhanjk

故事人物如有雷同，纯属巧合。

我是E及I。

ahloke88

另外一个经营权持有者andy，他拿到经营权过后，就消失了。jason自然高兴，没有人跟他抢生意。其实andy拿到经营权后，便拟定了一份计划书，凭这个计划书找到了几个投资者。六个月后他带着一批的施工团队回到村子里，开始他的建水管，从湖泊直接流到村子里。他向居民们说，他的水管可以24小时全天候把水运过来，并比jason的水价便宜75%，居民听后非常高兴，并要求andy让他们家安装水龙头。居民们大多都投诉jason的水质不着么好，因为在路途上会有很多的灰尘。jason为了减少灰尘，为水桶盖上了盖。为了跟andy竞争，他多买了两个水桶，再聘请几位工人，还把水价降到75%。由于运水是个辛苦的工作，员工们都投诉腰酸背痛，还要加工钱。还要在周末放假。jason又不得不聘请他的儿子在学校放假时间帮忙提水桶。当jason在忙的时候，andy在想如果这个村子需要用到水，那么一定还有一些有类似这样问题的村子存在，他把他的计划销售给整个国家，甚至全世界。结果全世界的水管所流的钱，全都流进andy的口袋里，而他无论在吃饭，睡觉，旅游，钱依然24小时全天候流进他的口袋里。而jason却困在永远的财务危机上。故事完结了。

这个故事其实是现实生活的人，你提水桶，就像你在上班。你只在有限的时间来赚钱。我不是在anti上班，我建议各位，上班短暂就好，有机会一定要来创业。

aburrida

我刚从e (employee) 跳到s (self employee),明白打工终究不是长远的。
想想当你唯一加工是奋斗了几年或数十年，突然公司告诉你说现在经济不景气而你是公是高新职员，所以裁员名单里有你的名字....

ahloke88

大家都知道了E, S, B, I 是什么了吧 说真的上传这个话题感到有点paisei. 没关系，我会继续讲那四个字母是什么。

E (Employee)(上班族)
S (Self-employed)(自由业者, 也就是老板)
B (Business owner)(老板，创业家)
I (Investor)(投资者)

这是我们人从学校出来，踏进社会开始赚钱所会去到的工作领域，比如说，一个医生可成为一名E，他可以去政府医院工作，或私人医院。不管这名医生在怎么样总之他领薪水的就是一名E。这位医生也可以成为一名S，他可以拥有一个诊所，雇用几名护士，然后自己当老板。他也可以成为一名B，他拥有一家医院，或拥有其他的产业，同时间在行医和做生意。他也可以成为一个I，拥有一些股份，股票，或做投资。

在这个例子来看，E, S, B, I 可以把它们define成：

E （你为钱工作）
S   (你有一份工作)
B   (你拥有一个系统，系统在为你工作)
I    (钱为你工作）

to be continue......

DreAmeR

原帖由 ahloke88 于 14-3-2009 04:30 PM 发表
另外一个经营权持有者andy，他拿到经营权过后，就消失了。jason自然高兴，没有人跟他抢生意。其实andy拿到经营权后，便拟定了一份计划书，凭这个计划书找到了几个投资者。六个月后他带着一批的施工团队回到村子里，开 ...

哈哈~~
你这个故事以前传销商最喜欢拿来唬人了的~~
但现实是真的这样单纯容易吗？~~

以我个人来认为~~
在现实中jason才真的是创业者~~
而andy 充其量来说只是E上半族~~
当然事实也不一定是绝对的~~

以现实中来考虑~~
第一那个工程需要多少钱来完成~~
第二andy找来投资者，他自己可以得到多少%股份~~
第三那个村有多少人口和水如果便宜了75%，可以赚多少~~
如果这三点不能符合理想，你以为andy可以成功吗？~~
可能最后他才是真正的失败者~~

通话故事谁都会讲~~
例如灰姑娘会嫁给王子~~
但有没有看到背后的现实问题~~

有听说另外一个故事吗？~~
有一个人去买了一只小鸡~~
就在那里幻想之后小鸡每天生了多少鸡蛋~~
然后生出多少小鸡~~
再把小鸡养大然后又一起生了更多的小鸡~~
这样不久他就可以发达了~~

最后~~
想了解故事中的E, S, B, I ~~
在故事中~~
jason怎样说也是属于B的阶级吧~~
怎么被说到如此不堪呢？~~

richmah

原来是这样的哦 这个故事  我是 s 呵呵

ahloke88

要知道，故事是故事。从故事里你领悟到什么，而不是要你去做故事里的人。灰姑娘是灰姑娘，现实是现实，我不管灰姑娘他会嫁给谁，在现实世界里她过的怎么样我也不知道。总之你读灰姑娘的故事你学到什么？学到做人要心地善良？还是相信梦想会实现？这才是重点。

要知道，如果一个人要成功，不是一定会平步青云。当上帝要把成功放在一个人的身上，那个人承受的压力和挫折都比其他人来的多，来得大。因为那个人要对其他人的未来而负责。

yaca

不错嘛，有看富爸爸，穷爸爸

DreAmeR

原帖由 ahloke88 于 22-3-2009 10:49 PM 发表
要知道，故事是故事。从故事里你领悟到什么，而不是要你去做故事里的人。灰姑娘是灰姑娘，现实是现实，我不管灰姑娘他会嫁给谁，在现实世界里她过的怎么样我也不知道。总之你读灰姑娘的故事你学到什么？学到做人要心 ...

哈哈~~
我就是在跟你讨论从故事里领悟的东西~~
怎么你都不回复我的问题~~
反而说这些有的没的？~~

从故事中你说jason 是上班~~
我却认为他属于从S跳到B~~
这就是我要讨论的内容~~


故事当然是故事~~
这里是创业板~~
讨论的是比较现实的东西~~
所以我把你的故事以现实来考虑~~

ahloke88

说实在。这个故事是我从富爸爸和穷爸爸里找到的。我觉得很不错。我post上来（如果有什么不对的地方请多多指教）

好啦，Dream的问题吗。好的。。。。。。

我之所以说Jason就好像上班族，各位想想看。今天我去上班8个小时，老板就给我8个小时的钱。如果我的工资是一小时RM10，那我一天就有RM80。同样的Jason在提水桶。如果一天他提8次，一桶的水钱是RM10块钱，那他的工资是RM80。那如果今天我休息，老板会给我工资吗？Jason今天不提桶，他有钱赚吗？你说Jason是一名S，我给他有5名员工。每个员工每天替他提8桶水，那Jason........to be continue......(my sis wanna use computer, i'll write it later)

DreAmeR

原帖由 ahloke88 于 27-3-2009 12:56 AM 发表


说实在。这个故事是我从富爸爸和穷爸爸里找到的。我觉得很不错。我post上来（如果有什么不对的地方请多多指教）

好啦，Dream的问题吗。好的。。。。。。

我之所以说Jason就好像上班族，各位想想看。今天我去上班8个小时，老板就给我8个小时的钱。如果我的工资是一小时RM10，那我一天就有RM80。同样的Jason在提水桶。如果一天他提8次，一桶的水钱是RM10块钱，那他的工资是RM80。那如果今天我休息，老板会给我工资吗？Jason今天不提桶，他有钱赚吗？你说Jason是一名S，我给他有5名员工。每个员工每天替他提8桶水，那Jason

首先看回你之前写的～～
E （你为钱工作）
S   (你有一份工作)
B   (你拥有一个系统，系统在为你工作)
I    (钱为你工作）

这些是你自己定义的还是你所说的富爸爸里面写的？～～
（不好意思，富爸爸我没有把他看完）
不懂你的Ｅ和Ｓ的定义～～
什么为钱工作和有一份工作～～

现在回你上面写的～～
你打的比喻很不正确～～
你说你工作一个小时ＲＭ１０然后一天８个小时ＲＭ８０～～
然而jason一个水桶赚ＲＭ１０然后又是一天ＲＭ８０～～
请问这是哪一国童话的故事？～～
很强词夺理及误导性的比喻～～

正确的比喻应该是～～
你工作一个小时ＲＭ１０然后一天８个小时ＲＭ８０～～
但jason一个小时可以赚ＲＭ８０然后一天８个小时ＲＭ６４０才对～
那样他才能在近半年时间成为村里最富有的人～～
这是你故事所表达的东西～～

IdontWantToDie

B 和 I 是我们的目标吗？

I 是不是比 B 好？

jasonhanjk

E S B or I.
哪一个好，在于你的想法。
Rich Dad:"Which do you think it's smart and which did you think it's risky, working hard at a job or investing. "

jasonhanjk

Building a Pipeline to Wealth
(The Four CASHFLOW Quadrants)
By Robert Kiyosaki

Each of us resides in at least one of the four quadrants of the CASHFLOW
Quadrant. Where we are is determined by where our main source of income
comes from.

Many of us rely on pay checks and are therefore employees, while others are selfemployed.
Employees and self-employed individuals reside on the left side of the
CASHFLOW Quadrant. The right side of the CASHFLOW Quadrant is for individuals
who receive their cash from businesses or investments they own.

My Rich Dad told me a simple story when I was 12 years old that has guided me
to great wealth and financial freedom. It was Rich Dad’s way of explaining the
difference between the left side of the CASHFLOW Quadrant, the ‘E’ and ‘S’
quadrants, from the right side of the ‘B’ and ‘I’ quadrants.

It goes: "Once upon a time there was this quaint little village. It was a great place
to live except for one problem. The village had no water unless it rained. To solve
this problem once and for all, the village elders decided to put out to bid the
contract to have water delivered to the village on a daily basis.

Two people volunteered to take on the task and the elders awarded the contract
to both of them. They felt that a little competition would keep prices low and
ensure a back-up supply of water.

Self Employed Thinking "The first of the two people who won the contract, Ed,
immediately ran out, bought two galvanised steel buckets and began running
back and forth along the trail to the lake which was a mile away. He immediately
began making money as he labored morning to dusk hauling water from the lake
with his two buckets. He would empty them into the large concrete holding tank
the village had built.

Each morning he had to get up before the rest of the village awoke to make sure
there was enough water for the village when it wanted it. It was hard work, but
he was very happy to be making money and for having one of the two exclusive
contracts for this business.

Business Owner Thinking "The second winning contractor, Bill, disappeared for a
while. He was not seen for months, which made Ed very happy since he had no
competition. Ed was making all the money. "Instead of buying two buckets to
compete with Ed, Bill had written a business plan, created a corporation, found
four investors, employed a president to do the work and returned six months
later with a construction crew.

Within a year his team had built a large volume stainless steel pipeline which
connected the village to the lake. At the grand opening celebration, Bill
announced that his water was cleaner than Ed’s water.

Bill knew that there had been complaints about dirt in Ed’s water. Bill also
announced that he could supply the village with water 24 hours a day, 7 days a
week. Ed could only deliver water on the weekdays--he did not work on
weekends.

Then Bill announced that he would charge 75% less than Ed did for this higher
quality and more reliable source of water. The village cheered and ran
immediately for the faucet at the end of Bill’s pipeline.
In order to compete, Ed immediately lowered his rates by 75%, bought two more
buckets, added covers to his buckets and began hauling four buckets each trip. In
order to provide better service, he hired his two sons to give him a hand for the
night shift and on weekends.

When his boys went off to college, he said to them, "Hurry back because
someday this business will belong to you." For some reason, after college, his two
sons never returned. Eventually Ed had employees and union problems. The
union was demanding higher wages, better benefits and wanted its members to
only haul one bucket at a time.

"Bill, on the other hand, realised that if this village needed water then other
villages must need water too. He rewrote his business plan and went off to sell
his high speed, high volume, and low cost and clean water delivery system to
villages throughout the world.

He only makes a penny per bucket of water delivered, but he delivers billions of
buckets of water, and all that money pours into his bank account. Bill had
developed a pipeline to deliver money to himself as well as water to the villages.

Bill lived happily ever after and Ed worked hard for the rest of his life and had
financial problems forever after. The end." That story about Bill and Ed has guided
me for years. It has assisted me in my life’s decision making process. I often ask
myself, "Am I building a pipeline or hauling buckets?" "Am I working hard or am I
working smart ? " And the answers to those questions have made me financially
free.

The CASHFLOW Quadrant is about the four different types of people who make up
the world of business, who they are and what makes individuals in each quadrant
unique. It will help you define where you are in the Quadrant today and help you
chart a course for where you want to be in the future as you choose your own
path to financial freedom.

While financial freedom can be found in all four of the quadrants, the skills of a ‘B’
or ‘I’ will help you reach your financial goals more quickly. A successful ‘E’ should
also become a successful ‘I’.

[ 本帖最后由 jasonhanjk 于 27-3-2009 11:09 AM 编辑 ]

IdontWantToDie

读了英文版本的，震撼比较大。

Well, but where is my way out.?!...

jasonhanjk

原帖由 IdontWantToDie 于 27-3-2009 12:50 PM 发表
读了英文版本的，震撼比较大。

Well, but where is my way out.?!...

Only you can find that answer.
只有你才可以找这个答案。
我们每个人有不同的性格及喜好。
我无法跟你讲这样做是最正确的，你的路需要你来走。

往 B 或 I，整个过程需要十年。有人需要更多、或更少。
花一点时间了解自己，是否要选择这条路。
在决定要走之前，还需要个很强的理由；没有理由、走这条路将会很艰难。

IdontWantToDie

原帖由 jasonhanjk 于 27-3-2009 01:23 PM 发表


Only you can find that answer.
只有你才可以找这个答案。
我们每个人有不同的性格及喜好。
我无法跟你讲这样做是最正确的，你的路需要你来走。

往 B 或 I，整个过程需要十年。有人需要更多、或更少。
花一点时间了解自己，是否要选择这条路。
在决定要走之前，还需要个很强的理由；没有理由、走这条路将会很艰难。

Yeah, I was actually asking myself that one...in sighing and sarcastic tone...*sigh*

兴趣广泛。。。擅长的也不少。。。
理由，好。。。那个是重点。我要找到可以在我疲累时可以让自己不后悔，仍然勇往直前的理由。
谢谢你。
心里有些燃烧了。。。。

Chivaz

原帖由 DreAmeR 于 27-3-2009 02:25 AM 发表



首先看回你之前写的～～
E （你为钱工作）
S   (你有一份工作)
B   (你拥有一个系统，系统在为你工作)
I    (钱为你工作）

这些是你自己定义的还是你所说的富爸爸里面写的？～～
（不好意思，富爸爸我 ...

有点给你炸到，看都没看完在跟一位分享者ARGUE些无谓的东西，都不懂做么酱执着。。。

Chivaz

原帖由 IdontWantToDie 于 27-3-2009 02:36 PM 发表


Yeah, I was actually asking myself that one...in sighing and sarcastic tone...*sigh*

兴趣广泛。。。擅长的也不少。。。
理由，好。。。那个是重点。我要找到可以在我疲累时可以让自己不后悔，仍然勇往 ...

你的八字可能就是那种金木水火土有到完的，样样懂但没一样精。。。