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11月30日,联合动力上市时,KLCI的计算法如何被调整呢?

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 楼主| 发表于 28-11-2007 10:03 AM | 显示全部楼层
BURSA的再一次说明:

Dear XXXX,

Your computation is correct, there's a general formula available at
bursa's website and its exactly what u have used.

Rgds.

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>>> Enquiries   11/27 4:17 PM >>>

Dear Rama,

Could you pls look into this one as well?

Thanks and regards,

Saidi
Customer Care.

>>> "XXXX XXXX XXXX" <XXXXX@XXX.XXXXX.com.my> 11/27 4:18 PM >>>
Dear Sir / Madam,

I try to understand your wording.
The best way to ensure I understand it is by demontrating to you the
followongs and you confirm it or correct it.

Let say by end of the day on 29.11.2007,

the KLCI is 1380.00,
the total KLCI market cap is 1000m,
the market cap for the outgoing SIME, GHOPE & GUTHRIE is 70m based on
the prices on 17.10.2007,
the market cap for the incoming YNH & Landmarks is 30m based on the
prices on 29.11.2007,
the market cap for the incoming Synergy Drive is 100m (but my question
is base on what reference price)

Therefore, the current KLCI on 30.11.2007 = 1380*current total market
cap / (1000m - 70m + 30m + 100m)

Am I right? Please confirm or correct me.

Anyway, how can I get the exact detailed computation for KLCI?

Best Regards

XXXX XXXX XXXX


----- Original Message -----
From: "Enquiries " <Enquiries@bursamalaysia.com>
To: <XXXXXX@XXX.XXXXX.com.my>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: HOW WILL KLCI BE COMPUTED ON 30.11.2007?


>
>
> Dear XXXX,
>
> According to my colleague, all three changes in the KLCI components
> will be effected on the 30 Nov 07, hence the no of KLCI components
fixed
> at 100. The KLCI Index base market capitalisation will be adjusted
> accordingly, based on the net impact on market capitalisation of the
> incoming and the outgoing components, so that the index is not
impacted
> due to component changes.
>
> Regards,
>
> SA
>
>>>> "XXXX XXXX XXXX " <XXXXXX@XXX.XXXXX.com.my> 11/27 11:54 AM >>>
> Dear Sir,
>
> I am actively trading FKLI and therefore the KLCI as the reference
is
> very important to me.
> As we know, on 30.11.2007, The new company Synergy Drive will be
> replacing SIME and included in the KLCI computation.
>
> But, my questions are:
>
> 1)    What about or what happen to GHOPE and GUTHRIE as components
of
> the KLCI?
> 2)    Where can I get more information on how exactly the KLCI is
being
> computed everyday in general, and specifically on 30.11.2007?
> 3)    I look through www.bursamalaysia.com and could not find the
> detailed computation of KLCI, please help.
>
> Thank you and best regard.
>
> XXXX XXXX XXXX
> XXXXX XXXXXXX Sdn Bhd
> XXXX Project Office (MPO) - XXXXXXXXX Team
> 2nd Floor, Lot 1311, Jalan XXXXXXXXXXX,
> XXXXXXXXXX Commercial Centre,
> XXXXX XXXX, XXXXXXXXX, Malaysia.
> Tel: +6XXX-XXXX809 ext 182
> Fax: +6XXX-XXXX348
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>
>
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 楼主| 发表于 28-11-2007 05:24 PM | 显示全部楼层
我上BURSA网站查联合动力的招股书,
里面第167面有说明联合动力的预测2007年6月的EPS将是RM0.43,
假设联合动力的合理PE是25倍的话,
联合动力的合理价钱是=RM0.43*25=RM10.75,
这比参考价钱RM8.90高出20.8%,
而联合动力的比重是8%多的话,
如果当天11月30日,联合动力就涨到合理价的话,
KLCI将会上涨=0.08*0.208*1366=22.73点。

这已经是很保守的算法了,比较一下,IOI的2007年6月全年的EPS才是RM0.2413,以今天IOI的闭市价RM6.90来算,PE=6.9/0.2413=28.6倍。

今天闭市的FKLI只是比KLCI高出8点而已,所以long吧!
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发表于 29-11-2007 10:21 AM | 显示全部楼层
明天long fkli?
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发表于 29-11-2007 11:08 AM | 显示全部楼层
I think we should 暂时不玩FKLI .. be careful ..

1. FKLI current premium 25 points - too high
2. SD listing price and potential price still not clear
3. DJI technical rebound 500 points .. its time to profit taking
4. KLCI volume below 1B
5. Yesterday DJI up 330 .. KLCI 3.44 - indicate the buying interest still not strong enough

Welcome to voice up your comments.

Tx
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 楼主| 发表于 29-11-2007 12:23 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #24 SingHooi 的帖子

完全同意你讲的,

只是我觉得目前FKLI高过KLCI这么多,20多点。
我们应该敢敢short spot month,
然后等它的premium少过10点的时候才long回!
就像昨天的闭市时,premium才7点呀!
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 楼主| 发表于 29-11-2007 03:17 PM | 显示全部楼层
我刚刚short了4张11月的FKLI,价位是1395.5。

在如此高premium的时候,
我就敢敢的赌它吧!
难道明天KLCI会上50点?
不太可能吧!
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发表于 29-11-2007 03:57 PM | 显示全部楼层
SD的比重7。4%,合理价RM11。25,如果明天一开市就达到合理价,单单SD就能把指数推上30点,再配合其他重量股明天把KLCI推高40点也不是无可能。
所以说,在缺乏热钱参与和本地基金操重马股之下,DJI下300点,KLCI也绝对有能力上30点,问题是大户的筹码是做空还是做多。
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发表于 29-11-2007 04:23 PM | 显示全部楼层
i think the Nov & Dec may drop to 1385 now 1395 is too high, history may repeat itself like tue & Wed end of  day fall dramatically as investor also worry abt dow jones market may fall
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发表于 29-11-2007 04:28 PM | 显示全部楼层
i think the Nov & Dec may drop to 1385 now 1395 is too high,

history may repeat itself like tue & Wed end of  day fall dramatically as investor also worry abt dow jones market may fall

if DJI tonight fall 300pt, what FKLI, i think CI may drop to 1358, FKLI ???
what do u think? stil 1395??
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发表于 29-11-2007 04:32 PM | 显示全部楼层
if i was 大户 i will join with all大户together 做空, cook all small player
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发表于 29-11-2007 04:36 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #26 heamq 的帖子

I'm prefer to SHORT for Dec and not Nov ...

simple .. have room to turn loss to gain ( if FKLI hit above 1400 & i got 1 more month to wait )
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 楼主| 发表于 29-11-2007 04:41 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #30 Bananacoconut 的帖子

对!
20多点的premium先放在口袋里,short吧!
赌FKLI本来就是带有风险的,
这样的机会不多见!
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发表于 30-11-2007 03:44 PM | 显示全部楼层
如果拿一场球赛来形容FKLI今天的交易,我们可以这样说:
球赛已进入垃圾时间。
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 楼主| 发表于 30-11-2007 03:59 PM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #33 kcthye 的帖子

我刚刚又short了4张今天要结算的11月FKLI,价位是1399.5。
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发表于 30-11-2007 04:55 PM | 显示全部楼层
原帖由 heamq 于 30-11-2007 03:59 PM 发表
我刚刚又short了4张今天要结算的11月FKLI,价位是1399.5。

应该是白玩一场。
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 楼主| 发表于 1-12-2007 09:21 AM | 显示全部楼层

回复 #35 kcthye 的帖子

不只是白玩一场,而是亏了白花花的银子。
随着SIME正式登场,这个主题也应该落幕了。
谢谢大家的意见和参与,相信大家都有学到一点东西吧!
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